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    #201
    crap..full tank nanaman

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    #202
    for those who are having their gas tanks filled up by Petron, better fill em up cause they're gonna icrease their prices tonight.

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    #203
    eto ang sagot sa fuel increase...


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    #204
    Quote Originally Posted by monmag
    eto ang sagot sa fuel increase...


    Mind you, electricity costs money too. Along with that, quite a lot of pollution as well - it just comes out at the power station instead of the back of your car.

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    #205
    Electricity costs money of course. But it's still A LOT cheaper than paying for gas.

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    #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_One
    Mind you, electricity costs money too. Along with that, quite a lot of pollution as well - it just comes out at the power station instead of the back of your car.
    valid point. except that this may be the kind of argument you'd hear an oil company make. In the long run, sila lang naman kase talo dito e kaya mas gugustuhin nila status quo.
    money...mahal ang ganitong unit. Pero pag naging commercial na yan, ma a-afford na yan eventually. Cost of recharging would also become affordable. (Dati ba na-imagine natin na lahat mag-ce-cell phone? Pag dating ng panahon ang mga excuses na natin kaya di tayo makarating sa gimik e --- "P're sorry lobat ako...di ako pwede )
    pollution...better to isolate the source (pocket stations...like presently the plants and generators), rather than bring the source elsewhere and everywhere (like the tambutso).
    Believe me, the present environmental, social, financial, etc. costs of internal combustion far outweighs that of the electricity's. Rephrased: the advantages (in those terms) of an electric car far outweighs that of an engine car. So which of the lesser evil then?

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    #207
    hanggang magkano ba ang balak nila itaas talaga?

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    #208
    oh god 34.59 na ang unleaded.. HINDI KO NA KAYAAA!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monmag
    valid point. except that this may be the kind of argument you'd hear an oil company make. In the long run, sila lang naman kase talo dito e kaya mas gugustuhin nila status quo.
    money...mahal ang ganitong unit. Pero pag naging commercial na yan, ma a-afford na yan eventually. Cost of recharging would also become affordable. (Dati ba na-imagine natin na lahat mag-ce-cell phone? Pag dating ng panahon ang mga excuses na natin kaya di tayo makarating sa gimik e --- "P're sorry lobat ako...di ako pwede )
    pollution...better to isolate the source (pocket stations...like presently the plants and generators), rather than bring the source elsewhere and everywhere (like the tambutso).
    Believe me, the present environmental, social, financial, etc. costs of internal combustion far outweighs that of the electricity's. Rephrased: the advantages (in those terms) of an electric car far outweighs that of an engine car. So which of the lesser evil then?

    ang alam ko, powerplant natin kinakapos daw ng power kaya they resort in using Diesel if everyone is using electricity at the same time. same reason kaya napropose dati sa government to have a 4 day work week, para hindi maconcentrate yung consumption ng kuryente at 8 am to 5 pm. mas nagiging expensive and pag produce ng electricity kung gumagamit na ng Diesel for extra output. In my assumption, kung papadating tayo ng electricity powered cars (or Hybrid), there is a big chance na panay brown out naman tayo or tataasan nila presyo to compensate the Higher price of using Diesel to produce more electricity, that is kung hindi mag upgrade capacity ng powerplant dito.

    In other words, indirectly gagamit pa rin tayo ng crudo to run the electricity powered cars. this also means, tipid tayo sa gastos sa gas, pero magmamahal naman gastos sa kuryente.

    So, useless pa rin Hybrid cars dito.

    Dapat talaga madevelop pa rin ng government infrastructure (Powerplant) dito to have extra capacity for the future electricity powered vehicles. but i doubt it. ano ba dapat mauna, magincrease ng demand ng kuryente or magincrease ng capacity? its a chicken and egg thing.

    Opinion lang po.

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    #210
    huh? afaik hybrid cars doesnt need to be plugged anywhere, it is self sufficient, gets the electricity charge from itself such as brakes etc.

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    those needing constant charging are 100% electric cars, not hybrids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martz1977
    Dapat talaga madevelop pa rin ng government infrastructure (Powerplant) dito to have extra capacity for the future electricity powered vehicles. but i doubt it. ano ba dapat mauna, magincrease ng demand ng kuryente or magincrease ng capacity? its a chicken and egg thing.
    AFAIK - most car manufacturers aren't so keen on electric-powered vehicles. the technology push is with fuel-cells (maily by using hydrogen).

    Btw, hybrid & electric-powered vehicles are a different breed. Most hybrids can recharge its own batteries (from its internal combustion engine + braking) while electric-powered vehicles doesn't have that capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tagalnasaabroad
    just learn to plan & reduce car use on your normal day;
    *pag time for marketing/grocery find the nearest place
    *going to office take public transport
    *going to church take public transport
    *spend less time on family outings, i.e. malls, beach, dine-outs, etc.
    *emergency errands seldom happens
    *anticipate gas dealers increase date & stock on gas in barrels complete with portable pump device; do think safety keeping the barrel lid closed tight. mahirap na..
    *limit gimmick times.
    *toe the line if it involves "pahiram muna" pleadings; some guys just dont understand tight budgetings..
    I agree! Kung merong mode of transportation ngayon na matipid sa gas is by using 'CADILAC" a.k.a. CADILAKAD

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    #214
    magkano ba ang balak nilang target sa price ng gas?! frustrating na ang bansa natin

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    #215
    may chance umabot ng P50 before the end of the year..1 major reason is that winter is fast approaching in many countries and this will generate increase in demand..

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    #216
    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullz
    magkano ba ang balak nilang target sa price ng gas?! frustrating na ang bansa natin
    FYI - worldwide ang price increase. hindi lang dito.

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    #217
    sory po. clearly, misinformed ako sa mga auto. how about cars running on lpg? are they developing it? at least sa bus meron na. sa taxi sabi sa akin kinoconvert nila? (hope di ako misinformed dito). laking bagay to since we have malampaya. baka mas maging mura. dont know effect sa performance though

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    we really cant do anything about the increases. kahit na subsidize pa ng government. lalo lang mababaon government natin.
    from what i understand. most of OPEC and non OPEC members are already running at full capacity, except for Saudi (near full capacity na rin). the demand really is at its all time high (especially in China and US) kaya mahal din ang presyo. Growing pa demand sa China kaya we really cant expect softening of the prices soon.
    problema pa kapag konting disturbance lang like mga hurricanes na yan, humihinto sila ng production. automatic, taas sila ng presyo.
    dapat talaga, magdevelop pa sila ng more fuel efficient cars or alternative engines para di lang makatipid sa gas, kahit papano, bumaba din ang over all demand.

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    #219
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    FYI - worldwide ang price increase. hindi lang dito.
    yeah i know...pero given the price of gas has been steadily rising ang sweldo natin is still pretty much the same. if a am, an above average salary worker is having headaches over the price of petrol(and im driving a charade) what more for people on lower salary tier...

    whats fascinating is given that were a third world country and the price of fuel is crazy...many people still but gas guzzling AUV's,SUV's and sports cars...kakataka ano hehehe but the trend is leaning towards more practical cars now and im glad to see the trend...

    sana maglagay na lang ng scooter lanes lahat tayp mag scooters na lang...kaya lang pag abot natin sa office puro libag na tayo lahat

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    #220
    last year pa pala yung thread starter nito...

    eto lang masasabi ko... pag pumalo ng P50/liter ang diesel... competitive na ang biodiesel (sana) - assuming wag tataas ang presyo ng copra at di magbubuwaya ang mga biodiesel manufacturers.

    also, baka maging competitive na rin alcogas or pure ethanol for gasoline-powered cars.

    between the two, I think mas ready tayo for biodiesel, madami naman niyog sa pinas at madami dami din namang coco oil millers. Sugarcane industry natin medyo mahina pa (from which you will source your ethanol).

    LPG or CNG? that's another option pero oil companies din ang may control dyan. saka wala pa masyadong infrastructure to deliver that on a nationwide scale.

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