Earthquake again?

[uls]

gaano kaya kalaki exposure ng mga bangko sa dmci

[Ketib]

so ang nangyari ngayon mga existing owners ng DMCI developments gusto magbenta pero wala gusto bumili

tapos meron din brand new developments na binebenta

too much supply wala demand

imagine ano mangyayari sa presyo

deny to the max ang dmci uls pati mga agent. Panahon na bumili ka rito. Pa rentahan mo lang naman.[emoji4]

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[Ketib]

ketib,

dito dapat papasok yung government na pwersahan pabayarin ang dmci. Pag sa attorney mahabang ceremonyas pa yan kasi syempre gusto lumusot or makatipid ng developer.

Malinaw na malinaw na mali ni dmci. So pwersahan na dapat kasi ano pa idedepensa nila jan.

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so kahit refund wala? Ano yan sorry na lang?

Naku kags, may kinulong na daw ang city government. Sa dahilang, hindi ni dmci sinunod ang utos ng CEO to vacate the area.

Legal matters na talaga yung mga sinasabi mo kags. Bahala na si JM dyan. Hehehe!

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[uls]

deny to the max ang dmci uls pati mga agent. Panahon na bumili ka rito. Pa rentahan mo lang naman.[emoji4]

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syempre deny sila

natural na reaction nila yan hanapbuhay nila at stake eh

pero di nila mababago ang perception ng mga tao

[chronicle]

Di nga sila DMCI, pero sister company lang. Under sila ng DM Consuji brand.


Housing

Housing is the newest addition to DMCI’s product portfolio. Working continuously with PDI, UPDi and DMCI Homes, the real estate development component of the Consunji Group, DMCI is proud to say that it has developed a construction expertise for all types and scales of land development be it residential, commercial, recreational or industrial.

Its successful projects include:

[dr. d]

ketib,


Malinaw na malinaw na mali ni dmci. So pwersahan na dapat kasi ano pa idedepensa nila jan.

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so kahit refund wala? Ano yan sorry na lang?

here's a question.
i am assuming, the plans were approved by the government's representative.
so... papano nah?

[WallyWest]

Kelan ba nagkaroon ng accountability ang gobyerno?

I doubt na talagang binubusisi ng approving bodies ang plans.

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[glenn_duke]

ang tanong yang mga nasirang property ng dmci eh may balik refund plus danyos perwisyo?

Mag file ng claim sa insurance.
Sa DMCI condos kasama sa monthly bills yung share sa building insurance.
Iba pa yung binabayaran sa unit insurance.
Problema lang kung makitaan ng violation sa building code yung DMC, baka i-contest ng insurance firm.

[kagalingan]

here's a question.
i am assuming, the plans were approved by the government's representative.
so... papano nah?

kasama dapat yan doc maparusahan. Kulong dapat parusa para focus pag piprima sa mga projects,

DApat may mga bagay na mataas responsbility mataas din parusa.

Ako nga gusto simulan sa pagdadrvie. Lalo na sa nagfeefeeling schumi. Yung overspeeding/reckless gusto ko mas mataas pa parusa lets say suspension of license for 1year agad minimum. Pag nainvolve sa minor bangaan 2years agad kung sino mali (ayoko na sabhin accident kasi majority eh carelessness naman nafeleng-felieng)

pero pag super reckless talaga may nabangga tao eh banned na sa driving.

So ganun din sa goverment employee pag mataas responsbility eh may kaakibat na matinding parusa. Example kulung tapos hatakin ari-arian pati sa mga anak damay. Ganun dapat kabigat para may accountability pati familya nakabantay na "daddy do not feed us dirty money ah"

[dr. d]

we like to assume that just because the building collapsed, someone was at fault.
perhaps, we should consider the science and technology available at that time...

even japan, one of the arguably better earthquake-knowledgeable countries, when shocked with considerable damage by a strong earthquake, admitted, "perhaps we should re-think our earthquake technology..."

"while earthquake-proof building technology looks good in simulations, it is no guarantee that it will work as designed, when the real thing comes along."

"res ipsa loquitur" should not be blindly followed.

[Yatta]

we like to assume that just because the building collapsed, someone was at fault.
perhaps, we should consider the science and technology available at that time...

even japan, one of the arguably better earthquake-knowledgeable countries, when shocked with considerable damage by a strong earthquake, admitted, "perhaps we should re-think our earthquake technology..."

"while earthquake-proof building technology looks good in simulations, it is no guarantee that it will work as designed, when the real thing comes along."

"res ipsa loquitur" should not be blindly followed.

When was the structure built? All structures built after 1990 are supposed to withstand at least a Magnitude 8 earthquake.

Part 2: What makes buildings earthquake-ready?

Japan has its share of shady contractors too.

[dr. d]

When was the structure built? All structures built after 1990 are supposed to withstand at least a Magnitude 8 earthquake.

Part 2: What makes buildings earthquake-ready?

Japan has its share of shady contractors too.

i vaguely got the idea, it was built around 10 years ago.

my point being,
placing the blame may not be as easy as some folks think.

[dreamur]

As some say, what happened in Mindanao is their own fault.

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[Ketib]

As some say, what happened in Mindanao is their own fault.

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Okay lang yan, kasi hawak hawak man din ni Quibs ang button. hehehe!

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[dreamur]

Okay lang yan, kasi hawak hawak man din ni Quibs ang button. hehehe!

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Hehe. Just so I wont be misquoted bro, what I am referring to is the blind faults that were only discovered recently. That is what I pointed out as the cause of the earthquake - the fault.

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[iammaricris]

Okay lang yan, kasi hawak hawak man din ni Quibs ang button. hehehe!

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Natawa ako sir sa reply mo I actually saw a meme on Facebook about this sa Pilyong Meme page.

[leonleon]

i vaguely got the idea, it was built around 10 years ago.

my point being,
placing the blame may not be as easy as some folks think.

But honestly, doc, sa opinyon mo, may kasalanan ba o wala yung developer?

[kisshmet]

Most ignorant people think that the developer & contractor that actually built the structure are one and the same

Many times its untrue..when structure fails then it's the contractors culpability not the developers

Engineers of the contractors hire licensed civil engineers for strength and architects for aesthetics of the structure. In situation such as this it's the license of the civil or structural engineers are in peril

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[dr. d]

But honestly, doc, sa opinyon mo, may kasalanan ba o wala yung developer?

i do not know.
we have to dig deep into the designs and science and technologies at the time the building was designed and constructed, and make judgements based on them.
i mean, yesterday's cutting-edge science might be today's common-knowledge folly.
it would not be right, to judge them based on today's technology.

what we need is a forensic evaluation...
"this is the design... what was built?"

but yes,
that collapsed structure does point a very large accusing finger at the designers/constructors...
as i recall, the adjacent much taller building is intact...?

[uls]

walang pakialam ang publiko sa specifics

like sino developer sino contractor sino supplier ng bakal sino supplier ng konkreto whatever

basta ang kilala ng public ung BRAND

kung DMCI yan o Ayala o Vista o Megaworld o Filinvest o SM o Federal o Robinsons etc

pag nasira ang perception ng publiko sa brand mo, bye bye $$$$

mag rebrand ka na