Does school really matter?

[_Cathy_]

I've seen friends from CSB there which is pretty debatable but it is sometimes called as Bootleg DLSU. It has 150k members so im pretty sure some have slipped through.

I view CSB as separate from Main just as other DLSU branches

BTW true story, my first job almost exclusively hires from the top 3. We were in immediate need of a new staff. A guy came in with DLSU on his CV, got an interview and passed. Upon hiring EAC pala siya. My manager got mad at that HR lapse and she never would have hired especially with that "deception". We asked the guy and he said he really tries to pass himself off as main Unfortunately he was NOT a good employee and gave his school a bad name, pati HS niya nasira sa office. LOL. We work with numbers and almost everyday meron kami disbalance because of him and one person's ADDITIONAL job is to reconcile his work. Guy never got promoted, manager had enough at "tinapon" siya sa call center where he can't cause too much "damage"

The company in the 2010s became more liberal with hiring so hindi na tumitingin sa school.

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[Ry_Tower]

sinusundan ko kasi yan, on a year by year comparison.
what performance indicators changed significantly, resulting in a change of overall ranking...
so that the university may know what they did right, what they need to address...

One thing na tingin ko humila sa UP is no exam pa din sila. So naturally the selection process resulted in not really the best of the bunch. Dami kasi magic sa grading system. AdMU made it a point na may exam na this year. 1 year hiatus lang sila.

As a consequence, performance of the studentry when it comes to research and citations obviously would also take a hit. That's a probable consequence. Tapos balita ko dami din ayaw sa government na mga teachers na bumalik agad sa f2f teachings so that's possible factor as well.

But that's just my 2 cents. They may publish the scores in total but how it was decided is probably for the school admin to know. Not just for anyone interested.


Or


UP is lower not because UP is weaker. UP is lower because Ateneo is stronger lang talaga.

[H1Tman]

Did you know that Sandro Marcos has a degree from the London School of Economics? And a Masters degree from another school I don't know? Did you know that?

[ice15]

Did you know that Sandro Marcos has a degree from the London School of Economics? And a Masters degree from another school I don't know? Did you know that?

yes. hoping he has more Araneta genes between the ears

and tama naman sinabi nya.

a friend of mine has been purchasing Yen kasi its down right now. he has a trip to Japan Q1 in 2023.

[ice15]

I view CSB as separate from Main just as other DLSU branches

same here... DLSU Taft is DLSU Taft.

Other DLSU schools are just the same as the "other universities"

The company in the 2010s became more liberal with hiring so hindi na tumitingin sa school.

Well ADMU and DLSU really takes care of their schoolmates. di kaya taga ibang school yung head ng HR nyo?

sa previous company ko... Legal team will always hire someone from Ateneo - puro Atenista sila
Admin will always hire someone from St. Scho

then there was a time sa Dept namin na puro UST ang dumating... pero later (new head) kung saan saan na din galing new staff.

[_Cathy_]

yes. hoping he has more Araneta genes between the ears

and tama naman sinabi nya.

a friend of mine has been purchasing Yen kasi its down right now. he has a trip to Japan Q1 in 2023.

Yup tama naman siya. Ferdinand Sr was brilliant but unfortunately hindi namana ni JR ang brains ni SR

Well ADMU and DLSU really takes care of their schoolmates. di kaya taga ibang school yung head ng HR nyo?

sa previous company ko... Legal team will always hire someone from Ateneo - puro Atenista sila
Admin will always hire someone from St. Scho

then there was a time sa Dept namin na puro UST ang dumating... pero later (new head) kung saan saan na din galing new staff.

Hindi e. Dati kasi I was told by an HR officer na chummy namin, when they segregate CVs it's UP, DLSU, ADMU and others (na most probably shredder ang ending) If you segregate the employees 90% from those 3 schools, yung others latin honors level or tipong Bedan/Miriam/AC/SSC from GS to College.

Naabutan ko pa yung "discrimination" sa office nung fresh grad ako. May interview pa ko tinanong ako how will I go to work, when I said I have a car, I was asked if I drive or driver Pati books I read and places I hang out (ibang company naman yan) May na applyan din ako I was told to lose my extra weight lol (though yung company kasi represents health) That could never happen in the 2020s.

Anyway, I think in general wala na talaga discrimination ngayon sa schools kasi sa industry namin nung una mapili multinationals but now not anymore.

What I want to know nung panahon ko notorious ang FMCG for only hiring cream of the crop grads from the top 3. I want to know if they even hire non top 3 na. May mga BPO na din kasi FMCG but I mean the Manila office (non BPO)

[dr. d]

Well ADMU and DLSU really takes care of their schoolmates.

i recently had a glimpse of this, in our own institution.

"bat ito ang mga tinanggap...! sino bang screening officers?"
"sir, si... at si ---."
"kaya pala! hindi natin graduate yang dalawang yan."

[Ry_Tower]

Yup tama naman siya. Ferdinand Sr was brilliant but unfortunately hindi namana ni JR ang brains ni SR



Hindi e. Dati kasi I was told by an HR officer na chummy namin, when they segregate CVs it's UP, DLSU, ADMU and others (na most probably shredder ang ending) If you segregate the employees 90% from those 3 schools, yung others latin honors level or tipong Bedan/Miriam/AC/SSC from GS to College.

Naabutan ko pa yung "discrimination" sa office nung fresh grad ako. May interview pa ko tinanong ako how will I go to work, when I said I have a car, I was asked if I drive or driver Pati books I read and places I hang out (ibang company naman yan) May na applyan din ako I was told to lose my extra weight lol (though yung company kasi represents health) That could never happen in the 2020s.

Anyway, I think in general wala na talaga discrimination ngayon sa schools kasi sa industry namin nung una mapili multinationals but now not anymore.

What I want to know nung panahon ko notorious ang FMCG for only hiring cream of the crop grads from the top 3. I want to know if they even hire non top 3 na. May mga BPO na din kasi FMCG but I mean the Manila office (non BPO)

Oo naman meron na din talaga. Pero nga kelangan maganda talaga grades and mostly ay because of of performance. A cousin-in-law is a sales expat. Nag-umpisa siya sa sales nung inalok ko previous supervisory work ko. From then supervisor to area manager then national level na siya sa JTI. Siya na trainor at sabi niya karamihan talaga top 3 pa din at kung hindi lang pumayag mga yun sa offer bago na sila naghahanap from other universities. Sa starting salary and package kasi minsan daw talagang tumatanggi mga graduates of top 3 schools.

[dr. d]

Naabutan ko pa yung "discrimination" sa office nung fresh grad ako. May interview pa ko tinanong ako how will I go to work, when I said I have a car, I was asked if I drive or driver Pati books I read and places I hang out (ibang company naman yan) May na applyan din ako I was told to lose my extra weight lol (though yung company kasi represents health) That could never happen in the 2020s.

this is how it went for me.

"we have four positions. dalawa kayong applicants from our school. tanggap na kayong dalawa."
"thank you, sir. errr, papano po yung dalawa?"
"we're still going over their papers."

[_Cathy_]

All I can say is swerte mga fresh grads ngayon because companies are not as discriminatory as they were before. Yung mga gay nga out and celebrated pa sa office. Nung fresh grad ako in the early 2000s "tinatapon" mga nalalaman na gay sa unwanted departments. Sa Headquarters namin for sure they will be frowned upon kasi my German bosses commented na dami daw gay sa Manila office (they're honest with me kasi close kami)

Kaya Pilipinas is the best place for women and lgbtq.

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[Deestone]

Anyone here who is alumni of chang kai shek or knows someone in there?

[111prez]

according to Times Higher Education World University Rankings, yes and school does matter ...

[ice15]

Yup tama naman siya. Ferdinand Sr was brilliant but unfortunately hindi namana ni JR ang brains ni SR

I am one of those guys who believe na kaya ng bobo habulin ang matalino... kailangan lang nya magsipag.

In the case of our supreme leader. nasa kanya na $$$ and power... kailangan lang nya tiisin yung 4 years para magkaroon ng degree... Uupo na lang sya, I'm sure magkakaroon sya ng diploma in the end, and he chose not to.

Hindi e. Dati kasi I was told by an HR officer na chummy namin, when they segregate CVs it's UP, DLSU, ADMU and others (na most probably shredder ang ending) If you segregate the employees 90% from those 3 schools, yung others latin honors level or tipong Bedan/Miriam/AC/SSC from GS to College.

Naabutan ko pa yung "discrimination" sa office nung fresh grad ako. May interview pa ko tinanong ako how will I go to work, when I said I have a car, I was asked if I drive or driver Pati books I read and places I hang out (ibang company naman yan) May na applyan din ako I was told to lose my extra weight lol (though yung company kasi represents health) That could never happen in the 2020s.

Anyway, I think in general wala na talaga discrimination ngayon sa schools kasi sa industry namin nung una mapili multinationals but now not anymore.

What I want to know nung panahon ko notorious ang FMCG for only hiring cream of the crop grads from the top 3. I want to know if they even hire non top 3 na. May mga BPO na din kasi FMCG but I mean the Manila office (non BPO)

Hindi kaya nainterview kita noon

Age, looks (incl weight), social status are "no longer important right now" - that's what they want us to believe. pero in reality... it alls boils down sa preference ng may final say sa hiring.

[ice15]

All I can say is swerte mga fresh grads ngayon because companies are not as discriminatory as they were before. Yung mga gay nga out and celebrated pa sa office. Nung fresh grad ako in the early 2000s "tinatapon" mga nalalaman na gay sa unwanted departments. Sa Headquarters namin for sure they will be frowned upon kasi my German bosses commented na dami daw gay sa Manila office (they're honest with me kasi close kami)

Kaya Pilipinas is the best place for women and lgbtq.

again... being based overseas for more than 10 years... sa SG na lang, may mga friends kami na graduate ng provincial universities dito and every year na lang na-reject work pass nila bec of their school - never happened to those who graduated from UAAP & NCAA schools. and these people have been in SG for more than 10 years din and all managers na. palagi nilang problem yung pass renewal nila.

Members of the LGBTQ+? yes kapag Western Private company. hanap ka ng top management if the company is Asian (especially Japanese, Indian, Malaysian and Chinese owned)...
And sa Gov't na lang natin, ilan and Congressman na out and proud?

[dr. d]

according to Times Higher Education World University Rankings, yes and school does matter ...

of course!
why go thru the trouble of ranking and not just alphabetizing,
if it don't matter naman pala?

there will always be exceptions, but "i'll go with the current system until a better system comes up."

[_Cathy_]

Hindi kaya nainterview kita noon

Age, looks (incl weight), social status are "no longer important right now" - that's what they want us to believe. pero in reality... it alls boils down sa preference ng may final say sa hiring.

hahaha! Do interviewers still do that now with fresh grads? Lifestyle questions?

In my first job yung mga client facing, since they deal with HNWs, puro mga good looking and upper class. The types that would work only for a few years to experience corporate life.

Members of the LGBTQ+? yes kapag Western Private company. hanap ka ng top management if the company is Asian (especially Japanese, Indian, Malaysian and Chinese owned)...
And sa Gov't na lang natin, ilan and Congressman na out and proud?

Yup those are MNCs from the west nga (Pride week). Pero bakit Catholic Mass pinagbawal na nila bigla? We used to have mass sa office every first Friday. Minsan kawawa din mga conservatives

[dr. d]

I am one of those guys who believe na kaya ng bobo habulin ang matalino... kailangan lang nya magsipag.

this is how i see it.

for topschool products, their foot is already wedged against the partially open door.
for non-topschoolers, they still have to knock on the door for the other side to open.

but once thru the door, both will have to prove that they deserve to remain inside.
but i admit, the topschooler's scorecard is already partially filled-in.

[Gumusut_Amige]

Hindi e. Dati kasi I was told by an HR officer na chummy namin, when they segregate CVs it's UP, DLSU, ADMU and others (na most probably shredder ang ending) If you segregate the employees 90% from those 3 schools, yung others latin honors level or tipong Bedan/Miriam/AC/SSC from GS to College.

Naabutan ko pa yung "discrimination" sa office nung fresh grad ako. May interview pa ko tinanong ako how will I go to work, when I said I have a car, I was asked if I drive or driver Pati books I read and places I hang out (ibang company naman yan) May na applyan din ako I was told to lose my extra weight lol (though yung company kasi represents health) That could never happen in the 2020s.

nalaman ko na lang ito nung pumasok ako sa isang MNC noon sa Alabang.
daming nagtaka kung paano ako nakapasok sa puwesto na iyon. lalong umangat ang kilay ng iba nung nalaman na free tax pa ang package dahil di naman ako galing sa nasabing mga school.
sabi ko na lang na may current work ako sa abroad nung panahon ng negotiation kaya walang mawawala sa akin pag hindi binigay ang gusto ko.

[_Cathy_]

nalaman ko na lang ito nung pumasok ako sa isang MNC noon sa Alabang.
daming nagtaka kung paano ako nakapasok sa puwesto na iyon. lalong umangat ang kilay ng iba nung nalaman na free tax pa ang package dahil di naman ako galing sa nasabing mga school.
sabi ko na lang na may current work ako sa abroad nung panahon ng negotiation kaya walang mawawala sa akin pag hindi binigay ang gusto ko.

Naabutan ko pa yung may mga tax free employees kami. The company seemed to want to get them to retire na LOL. I think starting year 2000 all new hires are not tax free anymore.

[_Cathy_]

Totoo ba na it's easier for top schools guys na makuha ang non top school girls? Whether one night stand, bed buddy or relationship? I know it's such a bad generalization pero a non top school colleague/friend practically said it and gave so many examples from her friends

Sometimes I wish I did NOT have to know about these things