Does school really matter?

[Ry_Tower]

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May magagalit dyang magaling.

[dr. d]

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read the link, folks.
the entire story is not as simple as the headline suggests.

[dreamur]

Full context of the news...

Education authorities in central China fired the head of a university for spending over 180 million yuan (US$27 million) on one-off payments for teachers sent to a university in the Philippines who earned an “instant PhD” and were then rehired to boost the school’s ranking.

Peng Xilin, party secretary of Shaoyang University in Hunan province, rehired 22 teachers who went to Adamson University, a school in Manila, where they received a PhD degree after 28 months despite most PhDs taking a minimum of four years to earn.

Responding to widespread public criticism, the Hunan Provincial Education Department said on Sunday that Shaoyang University had resorted to “inappropriate practices” in its talent strategy and Peng was fired for being “unscientific” in his decision-making and “imprecise” at work.

Shaoyang University became a centre of controversy last week after it made a public employment announcement that stated it had re-employed the teachers, raising public doubts about the quality of the degrees.

Peng’s programme was criticised for the unusually short study period to obtain a PhD and a perception that the school was “obscure”. However, Adamson University is considered a top school in the Philippines.

Furthermore, an additional gripe focused on the generous payment package of 850,000 yuan (US$126,000) for each newly rehired teacher, which people said seemed inconsistent with the “real value” of their degrees.

The returned teachers all received their PhDs in education, but when they were rehired, they were deployed to jobs in various departments, including energy, sports and economics.

The Hunan provincial government said last week that it would investigate the case amid rising public pressure before announcing the recent firing of Peng.

Adamson is a private university located in Manila and was among a list of overseas universities whose degrees the Chinese education ministry vowed to “give a more careful assessment” last November.

Xiong Bingqi, director of Beijing-based 21st Century Education Research Institute, told the South China Morning Post it is not rare for Chinese universities to partner with an overseas institution to cultivate “instant PhDs” to build up their strength on paper.

For schools like Shaoyang University, which are considered mid-tier in China, it is practical to encourage current faculty to study for a doctoral degree because it is hard to recruit newcomers who already have top degrees, he noted.

“Gaining a PhD is normally time-consuming, taking four or five years regardless of if it is at a domestic or overseas university. Besides, some teachers would leave for better jobs elsewhere after getting the degree,” said Xiong.

“Taking these factors into consideration, it can be a good idea for some universities to send their teaching staff to a low-ranking university overseas to gain a doctoral degree. The degree could be criticised as being of low quality, but that does not change the fact that it is a doctoral degree. Plus, most of the teachers would not jump ship after gaining the degree this way,” he explained.

This not only helps the university by increasing its ratio of staff with PhDs, but it also makes the school more “international”, which could improve its ranking, Xiong said.

“But all these are for the purpose of gaining instant benefit instead of really improving the quality of faculty. So this is a ‘face project’ to seek quick success,” he said.


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[uls]

so ang issue bakit 28 months lang may phd na

[dreamur]

so ang issue bakit 28 months lang may phd na

Right and as the director of education noted...

"But all these are for the purpose of gaining instant benefit instead of really improving the quality of faculty. So this is a ‘face project’ to seek quick success,” he said.

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[shadow]

Ano issue? Kung special diploma pwede maging presidente eh. [emoji23]


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[dreamur]

Ano issue? Kung special diploma pwede maging presidente eh. [emoji23]


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Hehe...wala pang sagot ang adamson.

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[uls]

baka masters yan hindi phd

ung 28 months more or less tama lang for masters

[dreamur]

PhD courses offered by AU

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[dreamur]

Adamson's press release.


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[marky2115]

PhD c/o Recto Ave. Hehe

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[kagalingan]

ano ba ito kabalbalan narinig ko sa news = pag breaktime daw sa school hinihikayat wag mag-usap!!!! My gawd ano klase advice yan hahaha!!!!

Kaya kayo nilalapitan ng kamalasan eh.

Ano ba purpose ng face to face eh camaraderie interaction barkadahan tapos gagawing ka tuod.. Eh mag school from home na lang.

tsikoteers pag tanggol nyo

[dr. d]

back in the day,
when detroit metal still lorded it in our streets,
we were penalized if we were heard talking in non-english, in school.

a classmate smart-aleck played a joke on the spaniard Priests who lorded it in the school,
"buenas dias, Padre. como esta usted?"

[_Cathy_]

back in the day,
when detroit metal still lorded it in our streets,
we were penalized if we were heard talking in non-english, in school.

a classmate smart-aleck played a joke on the spaniard Priests who lorded it in the school,
"buenas dias, Padre. como esta usted?"

Doc, my Lolo and his siblings are more fluent in English than Spanish kasi they speak English among each other so my great grandparents who are more fluent in Spanish will find it harder to understand them [emoji23]

Seems like even basic Spanish phrases are forgotten na among Filipinos kasi recently my senior Uncle and I ate sa restaurant e nag ven aqui siya sa waiter and didn't understand, I guess among older non Spanish speaking Filipinos that's a very common phrase along with siantate haha

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[dr. d]

Doc, my Lolo and his siblings are more fluent in English than Spanish kasi they speak English among each other so my great grandparents who are more fluent in Spanish will find it harder to understand them [emoji23]

Seems like even basic Spanish phrases are forgotten na among Filipinos kasi recently my senior Uncle and I ate sa restaurant e nag ven aqui siya sa waiter and didn't understand, I guess among older non Spanish speaking Filipinos that's a very common phrase along with siantate haha

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well,
the phrase "hijo de..." still is recognized often enough.
heh heh.

some friends were having an outdoor coffee in canada.
one of them wanted a refill, and asked the vietnamese waitress for refill.
waitress said, "de cap?"
"yes, please de caf."
again, "de cap?"
"yes, de caf."
"de cap?"
"xxxx!!"
"mitch, she's asking for your cup, so's she can refill it."

[dr. d]

ano ba ito kabalbalan narinig ko sa news = pag breaktime daw sa school hinihikayat wag mag-usap!!!! My gawd ano klase advice yan hahaha!!!!

Kaya kayo nilalapitan ng kamalasan eh.

Ano ba purpose ng face to face eh camaraderie interaction barkadahan tapos gagawing ka tuod.. Eh mag school from home na lang.

tsikoteers pag tanggol nyo

this is how i see it.
the medical advisers should do something!

[uls]

ano ba ito kabalbalan narinig ko sa news = pag breaktime daw sa school hinihikayat wag mag-usap!!!! My gawd ano klase advice yan hahaha!!!!

Kaya kayo nilalapitan ng kamalasan eh.

Ano ba purpose ng face to face eh camaraderie interaction barkadahan tapos gagawing ka tuod.. Eh mag school from home na lang.

tsikoteers pag tanggol nyo

pag breaktime mag chat nalang sa cellphone

[Deestone]

Just received a pdf file from Singapore School Manila, their tuition fee for kinder is Php300k and it goes upto Php500k for secondary school level. So if you are an average filipino earning Php100k/month it is not enough to cover tuition fee + living expenses multiplied by 2 or 3 if you have other sons and daughters.

[_Cathy_]

Just received a pdf file from Singapore School Manila, their tuition fee for kinder is Php300k and it goes upto Php500k for secondary school level. So if you are an average filipino earning Php100k/month it is not enough to cover tuition fee + living expenses multiplied by 2 or 3 if you have other sons and daughters.

an average Filipino does NOT earn P100/k month. It's much lower.

[dr. d]

Just received a pdf file from Singapore School Manila, their tuition fee for kinder is Php300k and it goes upto Php500k for secondary school level. So if you are an average filipino earning Php100k/month it is not enough to cover tuition fee + living expenses multiplied by 2 or 3 if you have other sons and daughters.

annual? semestral?
does that include extra-curriculars, i.e., lunch and merienda and etc?
... scholarships?

but i wonder,
the SG manila high school graduates.
are they automatically privileged to enrol somewhere, cost not withstanding?
do they have to fight it out to get into in kagalingan's so-called top schools?
what is the SG manila's record in preparing their HS graduates to get into college?

dee,
sa upis, pisay or masay high schools na lang. mebbe arrhneo. lasalle? no idea there.

you have child..? elementery?