Does school really matter?

[Calistro]

biglang lumabas yung kinakain kong noodles sa ilong ko ah.

bro, alam mo bang kaya gustong gusto hinihimas ng mga bading ang siko dahil

kakutis nito ang b*yag?

ayun ang iniimagine nila.

kaya mga opismeyt kong bading, ganyan palipasan ng oras.

kaya habang ikaw iniimagine mo ang future mo, si prof naman iniimagine ang iyong pinangangalagaan na

future.

Wahahah panalo tong advice ni sir holden

BTT : May mga nakakausap ako na mga ilan tao past few days for a role in the office. Pansin ko lang mas maayos communication skills ng mga galing eagles at archers kumpara sa iba. Malaking plus to lalo na sa client facing na trabaho, at pati sa interview.

[CVT]

Everyone should be proud of the school he or she came from... You can attribute your success to your personal drive and ability. That is your opinion. And no one can take that away from you. But please bear in mind that your school and your mentors, with all their good deeds, intentions and shortcomings have molded you to the person you are now...

I came from a "good high school". May not be the best out there by any academic metrics, but it has exposed me to a good number of good and evil in this world, which has made me a better person, ready for the world.

I would like to see people proudly wear their school colors. I have profound respect for them. Just goes to show that they continue to appreciate that they spent the best years of their lives with the institution and its mentors...

If I were to choose what school color to wear at any given time, I would choose my regular high school over the other so called "world class" local institutions which I have attended...

My 2 cents....

[chua_riwap]

JobStreet says the most preferred school by employers is PUP.

That's quite a surprise. Kala ko the most preferred is from the big 3. Ateneo, UP or LaSalle.

[eryxon]

JobStreet says the most preferred school by employers is PUP.

That's quite a surprise. Kala ko the most preferred is from the big 3. Ateneo, UP or LaSalle.

Maybe by the local employers...... Karamihan na kasi ng mga magagaling na graduate ay nasa abroad na.

Marami akong kilalang graduate ng TUP (hindi kasama sa top 10) na successful naman at karamihan ay nasa ibang bansa na.

Masaklap kasi sa ibang naka sandal sa school eh nagiging successful dahil hindi sa kanilang nalalaman kundi dahil sa kanilang koneksyon. "Its not what you know, its who you know." at nakaka lungkot na karaniwan ng mga maraming kilala ay mayayaman at nag aaral sa mga pang mayamang school.

[bloowolf]

Let me cite, as an example, the husband of my friend's sister. He never finished HS. His job skill was limited to being a driver in the Philippines. He tried his luck in the middle east where he found limited success in sales but because of poor guidance during his formative years, found himself in bad company & was imprisoned for a drug related offense. He was deported back the Philippines but was never able to get any decent job. He now spends his time asking for dole outs, duping anyone he knows for some cash & to top it all up, spends a great deal of that money gambling online. You see, education is not all about pluses & minuses, it's also about right & wrong & shaping a person into a decent, useful citizen of society.

I read that article mentioned by chua_riwap. As I understand it, the reason for the choice of PUP is because they are highly trainable, not as ambitious as those from the more prominent schools, are not as salary concious & not know it all types.

[dr. d]

Wahahah panalo tong advice ni sir holden

BTT : May mga nakakausap ako na mga ilan tao past few days for a role in the office. Pansin ko lang mas maayos communication skills ng mga galing eagles at archers kumpara sa iba. Malaking plus to lalo na sa client facing na trabaho, at pati sa interview.

it's easier to learn good english in an atmosphere where english is the official or un-official language.
that big government-funded school in diliman... is not a good place to learn good english in, if i may opine.

[_Cathy_]

^I agree with bloowolf. In my first job they stopped hiring CRC grads dahil mahirap daw utusan We used to have staff that had yayas or drivers waiting for them at work

School matters if you want to get into a prestigious multinational corporation (P&G, Unilever, L'Oreal, Nestle etc) Hindi kasama service center or bpo nila.

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[jut703]

In my previous job, almost everyone was from the top 3 universities. In my current job, most of the big bosses are still from the top 3 schools, but most of my contemporaries aren't.

My honest observation - on average, mas magaling talaga yung mga galing sa big name universities. I felt more challenged before, I knew I had to be on my toes always because everyone was performing on such a high level and I had to keep up. Ngayon, sobrang chill lang ng mga tao - if I don't light my own fire, I'll be as lukewarm as them. It's as if they're not hungry to grow. Ok na sila where they are.

So yes, maybe big name university graduates are more high-maintenance. But that's because for the most part, they deliver better.

It's also a matter of culture. We had some guys who graduated from no-name schools back in my old job, but boy where they really hardworking and dedicated. Put an average person in a flock of high flyers and they learn to fly too.

Conversely, there's this brilliant La Salle grad on our team right now. But since he's surrounded by lackluster folks, I feel that he's not maximizing his potential.


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[dr. d]

does school really matter?
try and see how many potential employers "of higher facility", will even give you an interview schedule, if you don't have a xerox of your (college) diploma in your resume.
there are always exceptions, but these are the outliers.. don't bet on them to come around on a regular basis.

[bloowolf]

I am not in corporate, but what I've heard from acquaintances is that a Masters degree is a must if you want to move up in the corporate word. Also, having a Masters degree from a foreign university is a shortcut to a Junior VP position. Is this true?

[jodski]

I am not in corporate, but what I've heard from acquaintances is that a Masters degree is a must if you want to move up in the corporate word. Also, having a Masters degree from a foreign university is a shortcut to a Junior VP position. Is this true?

Its plus, but not really a necessity...

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[jut703]

I am not in corporate, but what I've heard from acquaintances is that a Masters degree is a must if you want to move up in the corporate word. Also, having a Masters degree from a foreign university is a shortcut to a Junior VP position. Is this true?

I've met many VPs and CEOs without master's degrees. In this day and age, a postgrad is nice but a good track record counts for much more.

Also, a local MBA is pretty pointless if you're a business grad. All ME grads I've talked to who also got MBAs at AGSB said that their undergrad was harder and the MBA was really just for the title and networking. But for engineering grads, I think an MBA makes them much more marketable for top corporate posts as they become adept in both technical and managerial fields.


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[_Cathy_]

I am not in corporate, but what I've heard from acquaintances is that a Masters degree is a must if you want to move up in the corporate word. Also, having a Masters degree from a foreign university is a shortcut to a Junior VP position. Is this true?

Not true for the companies where I worked. At least for local schools.

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[jon777]

Also, a local MBA is pretty pointless if you're a business grad. All ME grads I've talked to who also got MBAs at AGSB said that their undergrad was harder and the MBA was really just for the title and networking.
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So basically if one wants to acquire a diploma mill title and built networks, go to Ateneo?

On the contrary, if one wants to learn and be able to be a good manager then one should stay away from Ateneo MBA hehehe

[jut703]

So basically if one wants to acquire a diploma mill title and built networks, go to Ateneo?

On the contrary, if one wants to learn and be able to be a good manager then one should stay away from Ateneo MBA hehehe

No. My point was that most of what you will learn in an MBA will be redundant if you graduated with a business degree from the same university.

There are several forumers here with Ateneo MBAs. Heads of companies. Are you saying they're poor managers?


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[bloowolf]

So an MBA would be pretty useless if that person has nothing to show for it. But have you met any foreign MBA holders? I have a HS friend who holds a foreign MBA, but he was brilliant to start with & rapidly moved up the corporate ladder.

[_Cathy_]

So an MBA would be pretty useless if that person has nothing to show for it. But have you met any foreign MBA holders? I have a HS friend who holds a foreign MBA, but he was brilliant to start with & rapidly moved up the corporate ladder.

I know 2 Wharton grads but they are from my Dad's generation Both are successful but I can't really say if the degree was a huge factor in their career. They already have a good head start coming from well to do families.

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[jut703]

Same experience. The people I know with foreign MBAs are already well-off to begin with. Not to say that they aren't brilliant, but an Ivy MBA isn't cheap after all - expect to spend about Php 5M for it (tuition, living expenses, etc).



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[unmarked]

Kung magkaka ivy league masters ako, baka sa states nalang ako maghanap ng work. Unless napala lucrative ng offer dito sa pinas lol. Or if ako yung owner ng biz.

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[_Cathy_]

Some people take masters just for the heck of it.

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