Cryocord: Stem Cell Banking, is it worth it?

[Josh0027]

Hi to all,

I'm planning to have my first baby's cord blood stored. I read about HSCs and MSCs benefits and still reading on its benefits. I like to ask fellow tsikoteers who already have experience in doing this?

HSCs will only be limited for blood cells while MSCs can produce tissues for most of our major organs. I read as much as I can on the effects of stem cell therapy and there are already cases that it has cured some disease (although there are no official studies to prove this, just reports on patients being cured). The technology is IMHO still in its infancy but I'm nearly convinced.

Is it really worth to invest in it in your opinion?


Many thanks,
Josh

[Jiggs]

If you can afford it.. I think it is best to adopt it, kahit pa sabihin na in it's infancy pa ang technology..it will still develop later on. Kapag naging successful meron ang baby mo na preserved specimen (Cord blood)...its now or never ika nga. How much ba ang ganyan..what i know is there is an annual fees..any ballpark figures?

[niky]

Remember, though, many stem cell therapy offers are quack science... There are benefits to storing it, but there is also the possibility that by the time your child needs it, in thirty or forty years, that the technology for creating new stem cells from adult tissues may be perfected.

[111prez]

Enrile, Belo et al never had the stem cells from their cords stored but they are availing of this treatment now

[niky]

Kaya nga... newest quack craze. The "holistic medicine" craze of the 21st century.

There are no proven benefits to stem cell therapy. Especially with stem cells from unknown sources.

We already have a term for foreign cells that generate new tissue inside the body. We call them "cancer cells".

[yebo]

3 years ago it was P500K at st luke's. and there's a maintenance fee every few years, di ko natanong how much yung maintenance fee.

if i have a child to be born and i have that money, i'd rather deposit that P500k in my child's trust account. by the time he'll need any medical procedure requiring stem cells, maybe when he/she is already 50+ years old (huwag naman sana) then that money would have multiplied many times over and he can afford whatever it will cost.

[BratPAQ]

di ba ine-extract naman yung stem cell sa tao mismo then a couple of weeks to grow the body part then transplant?

i think yung mga quack eh yung kung saan saan kinukuha ang stem cell, even sa animal, dapat kung kanino ilalagay dun din kukunin.

[niky]

Except for very special cases, there are NO proven or FDA approved stem cell therapies.

[yebo]

pwede kaya si tito sotto nyan, injectionan yung utak nya ng magkaron naman ng brain kahit konti?

[Phoenix67]

Cancer cells na lang ang i-inject dun kay titosen

To the TS, if you can afford it and don't consider it costly, I'd suggest to go ahead sa balak mo. IMO, I don't consider the stem cell technology as quack medicine kasi lately yung mga dating medical stuff are also considered as quack decades ago. Eventually technology will prove itself usefull.

FDA - US or Pinas pa yan, ay puno ng red tape lalo na sa pag-approve ng mga ganyang technologies....not that they don't believe it, it is more of the political thing or sometimes the corruption thing. So maybe approval would be done maybe 50years from now...and thus your beloved kid will have his own stem cell on "file" and will not use animal stem cell material to augment his future needs. Yan naman ay opion ko lang

[Josh0027]

Salamat mga bro sa mga opinion ninyo. Di ko pala nasabi nasa Malaysia ngayon ako. Madami na rin kasi nagsusulputan mga companies dito at inaalok ang cord blood banking. Madami na rin kasi kumukuha nito kaya nagcheck ako at may company na CryoCord sa Pilipinas.

Pero grabe Sir Yebo kung 500k pala diyan sa Pilipinas huwag na nga. Siguro dito nalang ako kukuha pag decided na ako.

Ang inoffer kasi sakin 5 vials storage for 21 years nasa Php 70,000+ lahat na yun. Ang isang company naman one storage bag nasa Php 14,000+ for 21 years at may annual fee Php 2,600+.

Konting research din muna ako.

Sir Yebo: Kahit huwag na magpainject si titosen, pera nanaman ng bayan ang gagamitin diyan.

[rollyic]

3 years ago it was P500K at st luke's. and there's a maintenance fee every few years, di ko natanong how much yung maintenance fee.

if i have a child to be born and i have that money, i'd rather deposit that P500k in my child's trust account. by the time he'll need any medical procedure requiring stem cells, maybe when he/she is already 50+ years old (huwag naman sana) then that money would have multiplied many times over and he can afford whatever it will cost.

yun ay kung buhay pa yung bank by that time....

[Horsepower]

Also been offered by our OB's secretary. So I asked, how much ba? Sabi nya mahal sir, basta super mahal (good thing iniisip nya siguro wala kaming pera. LOL). I did not ask any further kasi I easily lose patience sa ganun paikot-ikot na usapan.

Sabi ng isang UP-educated doctor who specializes in Stem Cell here in the PH, from his experience, mas gusto nya ang adult stem cell (yung galing sa bone marrow - ang sakit siguro nun pag tinusok ka sa buto).

Since stem cell is like a "lego" piece that is the building block of our bodies, it can turn into anything - even to cancer cells. That part stunned me.

I am doing further gathering of information. Mid-year pa naman lalabas ang 2nd child namin :-)

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Also been offered by our OB's secretary. So I asked, how much ba? Sabi nya mahal sir, basta super mahal (good thing iniisip nya siguro wala kaming pera. LOL). I did not ask any further kasi I easily lose patience sa ganun paikot-ikot na usapan.

Sabi ng isang UP-educated doctor who specializes in Stem Cell here in the PH, from his experience, mas gusto nya ang adult stem cell (yung galing sa bone marrow - ang sakit siguro nun pag tinusok ka sa buto).

Since stem cell is like a "lego" piece that is the building block of our bodies, it can turn into anything - even to cancer cells. That part stunned me.

I am doing further gathering of information. Mid-year pa naman lalabas ang 2nd child namin :-)

[Horsepower]

yun ay kung buhay pa yung bank by that time....

Good point.

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yun ay kung buhay pa yung bank by that time....

Good point.

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WTF is with these "edited" double posts??? I did not even edit.

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WTF is with these "edited" double posts??? I did not even edit.

[jay2]

Barkada ko availed this kind of procedure 2years ago paid downpayment yata of 18k. Kinunan ng "stem cell" yung baby pagkalabas sa mother then pinadala na sa states for storage. After a few weeks nag email sa kanya yung company at sinabi na hindi pwede ipreserve kasi infected / tainted yung stem cell. Goodbye 18k

[Horsepower]

infected ng ano daw? and where did it get infected? in utero or in transit?

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infected ng ano daw? and where did it get infected? in utero or in transit?

[jay2]

Hindi ko na sir natanung sa barkada ko, kung ano ang nangyari he just told me sayang ang pera dahil walang nangyari. kinuha yata yung sa imbilical cord right after putulin sa baby.

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Hindi ko na sir natanung sa barkada ko, kung ano ang nangyari he just told me sayang ang pera dahil walang nangyari. kinuha yata yung sa imbilical cord right after putulin sa baby.

[Josh0027]

Barkada ko availed this kind of procedure 2years ago paid downpayment yata of 18k. Kinunan ng "stem cell" yung baby pagkalabas sa mother then pinadala na sa states for storage. After a few weeks nag email sa kanya yung company at sinabi na hindi pwede ipreserve kasi infected / tainted yung stem cell. Goodbye 18k

Bro sa Pinas ba yan nangyari? Nakalagay dapat sa contract na marerefund mo dapat ang money in case hindi nagamit ang stem cell.

Ano na nangyari pagkatapos?