Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

[111prez]

Nakow, with the kind of PCG or PN ships we have, or don't have, everyone around us is, and can be, a bully.

Sad to say but we are the whipping dogs.

All bark, and bark and bark and bark

[Retz]

dapat i-boycott na din mga taiwan variety show sa tv.

[Monseratto]

Kung pwede lang ma settle lang ng ganito. Padalhin natin si Nancy Binay para mag UFC sila dun...experience not required naman.

[Monseratto]

Taiwan's Media playing up the public's emotion. And I thought the local media sucks...

[Retz]

kanina sa interview sa dzmm, sabi nung pinay na tga taiwan ung mga taiwanese gangster daw ang pilit na pinapalaki itong issue para mapabalita sa media....

[vinj]

This issue is being blown up to assholic proportions.

[Retz]

ano ba ang susunod ng hakbang ng ating gobyerno?

[Monseratto]

Dapat mag backroom channel ang government. They should elicit the help of Tsinoy groups that have influence over the Nationalist government in Taiwan...

Wala ng Taiwan tourist sa Boracay...

EXCLUSIVE | Zest Air suspends flights to Taiwan
By: Darwin G. Amojelar, InterAksyon.com
May 17, 2013 5:05 PM

MANILA - A local budget carrier has suspended its chartered flights between Boracay and Taipei because of the political tensions between the Philippines and Taiwan.

InterAksyon.com obtained a copy of the letter by Butch Rodriguez, Zest Airways Inc senior vice president for commercial and external affairs, to Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), which stated they will temporarily halt its Kalibo-Taipei flights effective May 20 until further notice.

"This sudden suspension is mainly due to the political crisis between the Philippines and Taiwan," Rodriguez said.

"As such the scheduled charters on May 16 and 19 would still push through to ferry Taiwanese passenger back to Taipei but no passenger on the return flight," he added.

Rodriguez said its charter agent has informed the company that the Taiwanese government has issued a "red travel advisory" to them, saying Taiwanese tourists are banned from traveling to the Philippines.

The Taipei government's move came after it dismissed Manila's apology for the Philippine Coast Guard's shooting of a 65-year-old fisherman, declaring that it was "not enough [as it was] lacking in sincerity."

China Airlines also has pending applications before the CAB to temporarily cease its Kalibo to Taipei flight.

Cebu Pacific, Air Asia Philippines and Philippines Airlines have yet to announce if they will suspend their flights to Taiwan.

Data from the Department of Tourism showed that 210,000 Taiwanese tourists—the fifth-biggest group visiting foreign group in 2012.

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Kasalanan ni PNoy...hehehe

[vinj]

What is the effect on the economy of Taiwan if all Pinoy OFWs went home?

Isa pang maapekto here is Ilocos Norte, Laoag/Fort Ilocandia is a favorite golf destination of the Taiwanese.

[Monseratto]

OFW Remttance...

MANILA - The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) on Thursday allayed fears that a diplomatic row with Taiwan over the killing of one of its nationals caught trespassing in Philippine waters will sour economic relations.

“We have good economic relations with Taiwan and we will continue to treat them as good economic partners,” Trade Secretary Gregory L. Domingo said in a text message.

Already, Taipei has stopped issuing employment visas to Filipinos, as it dismissed as "not enough, lacking in sincerity" Manila's apology for the Philippine Coast Guard's shooting of a 65-year-old fisherman.

According to the website of the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office (TECO) in Manila, over 93,000 Filipinos work and live in Taiwan. Their remittances amount to $600 million a year. Filipinos were the third-biggest foreign workforce in Taiwan last year, as the country was the seventh top destination of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) in 2012.

According to a Taiwan Times report, Taipei is eyeing additional sanctions, including issuance of a travel advisory against the Philippines; suspension of cooperation in the areas of agriculture, fisheries and technology; halting negotiations on air space rights; and suspension of economic exchanges.

Last year, two-way trade between the Philippines and Taiwan reached $10.9 billion, TECO data showed. In 2012, Taiwan was the Philippines’ sixth-largest trading partner, while the Philippines was Taiwan’s 12th-biggest trading partner.

Foreign direct investment (FDI) from Taiwan as of March last year reached over $2 billion—the eighth-largest after Japan, South Korea, the US, Singapore, Netherlands, the UK, and China.

The Philippines received more than 210,000 Taiwanese tourists—the fifth-biggest group visiting foreign group—last year.

[andywesteast]

Nakow, with the kind of PCG or PN ships we have, or don't have, everyone around us is, and can be, a bully.

Sad to say but we are the whipping dogs.

All bark, and bark and bark and bark

PH, Whipping Boy of Asia.

[nervenllarena]

ganito na lang sabihin natin sa china na ibibigay na natin sa kanila yung scarborrough shoal basta pulbusin lang nila ang taiwan ewan ko lang kung kung lumabas pa tapang ng taiwan

[ans_lim168]

The reason daw why the Taiwanese rejected the apology was because of the word "unintended", according to them the Taiwan vessel had 59 bullet holes and majority of them were in the cockpit area where the fishermen hid, unfortunately one was killed. If the Philippine side is to be believed, their vessel was too small to ram the PCG's vessel, they were unarmed but were met with a barrage of shots which for them constitutes "cold-blooded murder." There are overlapping areas of concern over maritime and fishing grounds between RP and Taiwan but there are no clear boundaries because of the absence of an agreement.

The US won't meddle in this case because both ROC ( Taiwan ) and the Philippines are her allies to check China in the Asia-Pacific region. The US tossed the problem back to the 2 countries saying they should resolve the problem between themselves.

[Retz]

pwede bang i-daan na lang sa toss coin din hidwaan ng pilipinas-taiwan.

[ans_lim168]

pwede bang i-daan na lang sa toss coin din hidwaan ng pilipinas-taiwan.

Unfortunately, that's not how Taiwan settle issues.

I monitored the TVBS Mandarin channel re their news last night, they were saying that their 17 man investigative team went here in response to the Philippine government's letter given to the US saying that "we welcome and will cooperate in any investigation." That's why tensions were raised when they left the Philippines empty handed yesterday afternoon.

I understand from their commentators that the Philippines will also send a team to Taiwan to investigate the vessel, they will welcome them and help us with the investigators by having translators to convey their points, but on our end, we should allow their team to go back here and make an investigation too. They also made an appeal to all their nationals not to hurt or discriminate our Filipino OFWs over there.

They are just being cautious with the way we handle the incident, they have learned from the 2010 Mendoza bus hostage incident where no persons were jailed, only suspensions were meted out which is very light as 8 Hong Kong people died and would not want a repeat of that.

[stickers]

Nakow, with the kind of PCG or PN ships we have, or don't have, everyone around us is, and can be, a bully.

Sad to say but we are the whipping dogs.

All bark, and bark and bark and bark

Gone are the days that spear triumphs over bullets, lapu lapu killing magellan. Ngayon kasi bukod sa sibat na nga lang hawak mo wala ka pang tapang para manindigan at lumaban. Nga nga na lang. :D

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[Retz]

muder daw nangyari sabi ng taiwan.

[Monseratto]

Di daw snubbed ang nangyari sa Taiwan investigators. We just ignored you sabi ni De Lima...

Sabi ni Basilio, open ang Pilipinas mag joint investigation, and it was done twice...

Taiwan investigators return from Philippines

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – A team of 17 investigators returned from the Philippines empty-handed Saturday after the authorities there refused to cooperate in the investigation into the May 9 shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman.
The death of Hung Shih-cheng, 65, on a fishing trawler in an area where the two countries’ exclusive economic zones overlap has raised tension between the two countries to an unprecedented level, with Taipei issuing a total of eleven types of sanctions against Manila, including a freeze on new Filipino workers.

On Friday, President Ma Ying-jeou accused the Philippines of “cold-blooded murder” as there was no way the shooting of an unarmed fisherman could be reasoned away by international law. Foreign Minister David Lin hosted an international news conference where he lashed out at Manila’s attempts to portray Hung as the aggressor and the Philippine maritime agents as people who acted in self-defense against the Taiwanese ship trying to ram them. The vessel, the Kuang Ta Hsing No.28, was not in Philippine waters and therefore should not have been forced to leave, Lin said.

The Taiwanese investigative team, which arrived in Manila Thursday in the hope of conducting a joint investigation, accused the Philippine authorities of behaving in an “arrogant” and “capricious” way.

The group had decided to return to Taiwan together later Saturday because Manila was too dishonest, said Chen Wen-chi, head of the Department of International and Cross-Strait Legal Affairs at the Ministry of Justice.

She showed a letter from Philippine representative in Taipei Antonio Basilio agreeing to a joint investigation by both countries twice, but Manila claimed it had not heard of the proposal. The shooting had been directed at the part of the fishing trawler where the four-man crew was hiding, showing intended homicide and a kind of behavior unfit for a civilized country, Chen said.

Pero pagdating ditto...nganga ang reaction ng Malacanang... Walang diplomatic personality kasi.

Parang mga bata naglalaro ng patintero.

Palace exec: Taiwanese investigators not 'snubbed' by PHL govt
ANDREI MEDINA,GMA NewsMay 18, 2013 1:30pm


Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte on Saturday said the Philippine government did not snub the Taiwanese team that came into the country to investigate the May 9 alleged shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman in the Balintang Channel in Batanes.

Valte said a certain code of procedure has to be followed before the Philippines can enter into a joint probe with other governments.


“There is a protocol that should be followed under the legal assistance agreement we have with them [Taiwan]," Valte told GMA News Online via text on Saturday.

According to a report of Taiwan News on Saturday, "A source close to the team said the 17-member team which arrived here Thursday will leave later in the day after being snubbed by the Philippine government."

However, Valte reiterated Justice Secretary Leila de Lima's statement earlier this week that there will be no joint Philippine-Taiwan investigation on the Balintang channel shooting incident.

“According to Secretary De Lima, the Department of Justice did not receive notice that they intended to come here,” Valte told GMA News Online.

De Lima told reporters on Thursday: “I don’t think we can agree to a joint-investigation because we’re a sovereign country. We have our own processes. We have our own justice system."

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Defending champion tayo sa jones cup...sana hinde tayo I-ban para super hostile yu mga fans sa team natin.