Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

[Retz]

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baka may doctor na involve sa imbestigasyon?

[falken]

Nakakaduda na kung sobrang tagal.

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[Altis6453]

Taiwanese authorities recently released GPS data showing that the fishing boat in question was not inruding in Philippine waters. It'll be interesting how the PCG will refute this one.

[Retz]

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Paano kung nasa border stepping ang taiwan fishing boat kung ganon.

[Monseratto]

Har, har, har...

Taiwan findings support PH Coast Guard account: documents | ABS-CBN News

Taiwan findings support PH Coast Guard account: documents

by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com

MANILA (2nd UPDATE) - Initial findings made by Taiwanese agencies on the incident that led to the death of a fisherman near Balintang Island in Batanes last May 9 support the initial report of the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) on where the clash happened, according to documents uploaded on the Internet by the Taiwanese government.

One Taiwan Coast Guard Administration (CGA) document, "f1368153033684.pdf", shows a map where the incident took place between Taiwanese fishermen and the Philippine Coast Guard-Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (PCG-BFAR).

http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http:...8153033684.pdf


The shooting incident occurred in one of the coordinates on the map, 19°58 N 122°58 E.

It is inside the Philippines' exclusive economic zone and waters set by international treaty limits.

The location is 1.8 nautical miles south outside Taiwan's control border at 20 degrees north latitude, according to the CGA document.

Another coordinate, 19°50 N 123°24 E, is also within the Philippine jurisdiction. The location, 10 nautical miles outside the Taiwan control border, is where the Taiwanese fishermen operated.

A third location (20°07 N 123°01 E) where the fishermen called for help from Taiwanese authories is 5 nautical miles within waters that Taiwan claims.

According to an initial PCG report, its personnel tried to board several Taiwanese vessels after detecting them in Philippine waters.

"Meron silang nadetect na apat na foreign fishing vessels. In an effort to apprehend or magbo-board po sila… Nung sinusubukan pong to board… one of the vessels, ni-ram po nung isa ang ating, the BFAR vessel which is being manned by the Coast Guard. So nag-fire po ng warning shot, hindi pa din daw po tumigil 'yung mga vessels in an attempt to continuously ram the BFAR vessel," deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said last May 10, citing the initial PCG report on the incident.

She said the Coast Guard then took defensive action, firing on the ship's engine area to disable it.

"Nag-fire daw po sila ng isa pang shot doon sa machinery portion ng ship," Valte said.

"It was an aggressive act. The ramming of the boat into our vessel was certainly an aggressive act. So the PCG responded accordingly. Nag-warning shot sila, hindi po tumigil. They took the other necessary action and I understand eventually disengaged after that," she added.

The Taiwan government documents are currently innacessible but can be viewed through their cached versions via internet archive site web.archive.org.

Meantime, Taipei is insisting that the death of fisherman Hong Shi-cheng is "cold-blooded murder" and denied that the boat tried to ram a BFAR vessel.

Taiwan is also claiming that Philippine Coast Guard vessel "sailed away without offering assistance to the stricken boat, in violation of international law and a humanitarian duty."

"No claim of self-defense can justifiably be made by the Philippines," Taiwan's Foreign Ministry said.

"The Philippine claim that the incident occurred in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) is unfounded. The incident occurred in the two countries’ overlapping EEZs," it also claimed.

Satellite data

Taiwan, however, on Tuesday released a new satellite record of the alleged route of the fishing boat.

Taipei flatly denied that the boat intruded into Philippine waters.

Taiwan's Fisheries Agency said the voyage data recorder from the fishing boat showed it was not in Philippine waters when it came under fire on May 9.

"The satellite records indicated that the Guang Ta Hsin 28 had been fishing within Taiwan's exclusive economic zone throughout," the agency's deputy chief Tsay Tzu-yaw told AFP.

The satellite record showed that the ship was positioned at 122 degrees and 55 minutes east and 19 degrees and 59 minutes north when it was attacked at 10:12 am, according to the fisheries agency.

However, a check on a maritime boundaries geodatabase online showed that the latest coordinate given by Taiwan's Fisheries Agency is even closer to Philippine land - and still within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone.

The Taiwan Coast Guard map also said the shooting incident happened at 9:45 a.m., which is earlier than the time given by its Fisheries Agency.

For decades, Taiwan set its "temporary enforcement line" at 20 degrees north latitude. The locations of the Taiwanese Coast Guard and Fisheries Agency versions on where the shooting took place are outside its enforcement area of control.

The island, which is considered by mainland China as a rebel province, has not also ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which prescribes exclusive economic zones, over which a state has special rights over the exploration and use of marine resources.

[Retz]

Sana magka ayos na din itong issue na ito. Para hindi maapektuhan mga ofw natin

[Monseratto]

Confirmed...Binawi yung invitation sa Jones Cup...

No Jones Cup for Gilas: Taiwan organizers withdraw invitation for Philippine team | InterAKTV

No Jones Cup for Gilas: Taiwan organizers withdraw invitation for Philippine team

Amid tensions between the Philippines and Taiwan, the organizers of the Taipei-based William Jones Cup have withdrawn their invitation to the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team, the defending champions of the competition.

Philippine national men’s basketball coach Chot Reyes made the announcement on his Twitter account.

The Philippines won the competition last year on the strength the performance of Barangay Ginebra San Miguel guard LA Tenorio, who won Most Valuable Player honors.

Taiwan and the Philippines rose after the fatal shooting of a Taiwanese fishermen by members of the Philippine Coast Guard earlier this month.

Several incidents of attacks on Filipino workers by Taiwanese locals have been reported.

Gilas members expressed disappointment over the decision of Jones Cup organizers.


Reyes, for his part, said that the development is a setback in the preparations of the national team, which is training to compete in the FIBA Asia Championship in Manila in August.

[Retz]

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sayang naman. preparation din yan for fiba asia.

[jonski]

Takot marape sa basketball mga taiwan players. Ok na din yan para hindi ma scout players ng Pilipinas.

[Monseratto]

Update about the case...no mention of the supposed "ramming"...

'Philippine coast guards laughed while firing'
Asia News NetworkBy Nancy C. Carvajal in Manila/Philippine Daily Inquirer | Asia News Network – 4 hours ago...
Manila (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN) -

It looked like hoot, with six coast guards laughing as they fired at the Taiwanese fishing boat.

"The video showed the soldiers acted unprofessionally. They were laughing while they were shooting the boat," a source who had seen the video of the Philippine Coast Guard shooting of fishing boat Guang Ta Hsin 28 three weeks ago said Saturday.

"It is disturbing and embarrassing for Philippine law enforcers," the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the Inquirer in an interview.

Taiwanese fisherman Hung Shih-chen, 65, was hit and killed in the shooting, which happened during a high-speed chase in waters off Balintang Island in northern Philippines on May 9.

The source said the Coast Guard submitted the video to the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) after President Benigno Aquino III ordered an investigation of the fatal shooting of Hung, which sparked a major diplomatic row between Taiwan and the Philippines.

It was the video that Justice Secretary Leila de Lima described two weeks ago as "very revealing", but did not disclose its contents.

But that it was very revealing was probably why the Department of Justice initially refused to share the video with Taiwanese investigators, delaying clearance from Taipei for an NBI team to travel to Taiwan to investigate the fatal shooting of Hung.

Not until De Lima allowed the video to be seen by Taiwanese investigators did the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office (Teco), Taiwan's de facto embassy in Manila, give visas to the eight members of the NBI team.

The source said the video showed the fishing boat, after sailing side by side with the MCS-3001, a patrol vessel owned by the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources but manned by coast guards, peeled away and moved in "circles, as if daring the (Coast Guard vessel) to come after it".

Not raked with gunfire

Contrary to reports, the source said, the coast guards did not rake the fishing boat with gunfire.

"They did not spray it with bullets, but they were laughing as they fired at the fishing boat," the source said.

The coast guards aimed for what they thought was the engine room to stop the boat, the source said.

But the NBI inspection of the fishing boat at the dockyard on Pingtung Island, southern Taiwan, showed no bullet holes on any part of the engine room.

"There were no bullet holes on the engine room probably because (the coast guards) did not know its location," the source said.

Two other sources who had seen the video confirmed the statements of the first source.

According to the Coast Guard report on the incident, Cmdr. Arnold de la Cruz, the patrol vessel's commander, "ordered his men to fire at the fishing vessel when it did not stop after several warnings".

Philippine waters

One of the two other sources who had seen the video said the shooting happened on the Philippine side, not on the Taiwan side, of overlapping territorial waters between the two countries.

The NBI and Taiwanese investigators ended their parallel probes of the incident on Friday, with the NBI team saying its report would be ready in a "day or two".

De Lima said the government's next step would depend on the NBI report, which would contain recommendations.

She said Philippine laws would be followed should the NBI recommend the prosecution of the coast guards involved in the shooting.

Murder charges

The fisherman's daughter, Hung Tzu-chen, filed murder charges, but did not name anyone in her complaint.

Taiwanese investigators told a news conference on Friday that they could identify the coast guard who fired the bullet that killed Hung through the results of the ballistic tests on the firearms submitted for the probe.

The Taiwanese investigative team returned to Taipei on Friday.

The NBI team, headed by Daniel Daganzo, chief of the bureau's foreign liaison division, returned to Manila on the same day.

[Retz]

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may resulta na kaya ang imbestigasyon dito.

[falken]

If they were laughing as they were firing at the Taiwanese, there's a possibility that they were drunk.

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[andywesteast]

Philippine coast guards laughed while firing'
Asia News NetworkBy Nancy C. Carvajal in Manila/Philippine Daily Inquirer | Asia News Network – 4 hours ago...
Manila (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN) -

It looked like hoot, with six coast guards laughing as they fired at the Taiwanese fishing boat.

"The video showed the soldiers acted unprofessionally. They were laughing while they were shooting the boat," a source who had seen the video of the Philippine Coast Guard shooting of fishing boat Guang Ta Hsin 28 three weeks ago said Saturday.

Ganyan ang mga PH military.

Kaya manhina.

[Retz]

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knug totoo yan, naku. magagalit nga mga taiwanese sa atin.

[Altis6453]

If they were laughing as they were firing at the Taiwanese, there's a possibility that they were drunk.

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If they did, then the PCG men deserve our condemnation. But you gotta wonder why the unamed "source" wouldn't come out and identify himself publicly.

[yebo]

hindi daw totoo na tumatawa. one cg man was smiling while firing a warning shot, that was all. and also if that were true and the taiwanese had already seen the video e di malaking gulo na sana, the taiwanese would have already called a press conference denouncing the laughter. e quiet lang sila e, last week pa nila napanuod yung vid.

remember that the story was:
1. a story in the PDI. not the best when it comes to responsible journalism. kakambal yan ng channel 7 pag dating sa professionalism, meaning very low!
2. the story has but 1 unverified source. if they were responsible journalists (the writer and her editor) they would have looked for collaborating sources, or paid big money to an nbi agent who would leak the video to them, even just the part where the alleged laughter was recorded.
3. carvajal had not seen the video herself, so at best her report was pure hearsay.

dapat yang si carvajal at yung editor niya e ilipat sa showbiz beat. o magaral na lang silang magdrawing ng cartoons. they passed off as fact something they did not have confirmed information about.

[ClaNker]

hindi daw totoo na tumatawa. one cg man was smiling while firing a warning shot, that was all. and also if that were true and the taiwanese had already seen the video e di malaking gulo na sana, the taiwanese would have already called a press conference denouncing the laughter. e quiet lang sila e, last week pa nila napanuod yung vid.

remember that the story was:
1. a story in the PDI. not the best when it comes to responsible journalism. kakambal yan ng channel 7 pag dating sa professionalism, meaning very low!
2. the story has but 1 unverified source. if they were responsible journalists (the writer and her editor) they would have looked for collaborating sources, or paid big money to an nbi agent who would leak the video to them, even just the part where the alleged laughter was recorded.
3. carvajal had not seen the video herself, so at best her report was pure hearsay.

dapat yang si carvajal at yung editor niya e ilipat sa showbiz beat. o magaral na lang silang magdrawing ng cartoons. they passed off as fact something they did not have confirmed information about.

Totally agree. So far di pa naman nag wala ang Taiwan so this story is full of crap.

[Stoner]

Irresponsible journalism at work.

Not bothering to double-check her information, only interested in getting the first scoop.

Such articles have a serious, wide-ranging implications yet that apparently did not stop her.

Now, the (twisted) story has spread, and it'll further fuel anti-Filipino emotions in Taiwan.

Throw the book at them, I say. The biggest, heaviest one.

[stickers]

hindi daw totoo na tumatawa. one cg man was smiling while firing a warning shot, that was all. and also if that were true and the taiwanese had already seen the video e di malaking gulo na sana, the taiwanese would have already called a press conference denouncing the laughter. e quiet lang sila e, last week pa nila napanuod yung vid.

i agree, pero di ba dapat tiger look no emotions can be seen.

[Retz]

hindi pala totoo.... ung mga journalist talaga making-up stories.