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    But the american way is harmful to the world.

    They are 5% of the world's population but they consume like 25% of the world's oil output.

    They are the world's number one polluter. They wont even sign the Kyoto Protocol.

    They do everything in a big way but they waste big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    But the american way is harmful to the world.

    They are 5% of the world's population but they consume like 25% of the world's oil output.

    They are the world's number one polluter. They wont even sign the Kyoto Protocol.

    They do everything in a big way but they waste big.
    That is because they also produce 25% of the world's total goods and service. They are also the top exporting country in the world. So consuming 25% of the world's oil output is not surprising for a highly developed and financially capable country like theirs.

    Worst polluter? If you are only taking into account greenhouse gases in which its effects is highly debatable. You may mutter global warming but then again the earth undergoes a natural global warming & cooling phase every 10,000 years or so. In all other aspects, their environmental record is already good as compared to other highly polluted developing countries.

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    But the US didnt get to where it is today without burning coal, cutting down trees and poisoning rivers and all that.

    The newly industrializing countries like China and India are going thru the same process. They are polluting land, water and air right now. So did the US or Britain or France or Germany or Japan when they were still developing.

    It just so happened there werent any tree-hugging enviromentalists around at that time to bother them.

    Now that these mature and aging economies realize the damage they did to the planet, they want developing countries to adopt strict environmental policies... which can slow down their growth.

    Nakaraos na sila. Pano naman ung mga di pa nakakaraos?

    Im not a tree-hugger. I actually dislike those Greenpeace activists.

    They are quite loud here in the Phils... they get a lot of media attention... harrassing importers and mining firms and being a total pain in the a$$ to many businesses.
    Last edited by uls; May 8th, 2007 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder View Post
    ito lang yan. they are spending too much on management that is not performing. too little on direct operation. the downfall of most american companies.
    And here come the corporate raiders and venture capitalists....

    2601:kick:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    That is because they also produce 25% of the world's total goods and service. They are also the top exporting country in the world. So consuming 25% of the world's oil output is not surprising for a highly developed and financially capable country like theirs.

    Worst polluter? If you are only taking into account greenhouse gases in which its effects is highly debatable. You may mutter global warming but then again the earth undergoes a natural global warming & cooling phase every 10,000 years or so. In all other aspects, their environmental record is already good as compared to other highly polluted developing countries.
    Since their's nothing wrong with their consumption patterns, let's all follow the great example set by the Americans.

    Sana yung per capita consumption (pollution) ng buong mundo pareho na rin sa mga Amerikano.

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    I may have to agree that the US is greatest polluter. them and the south american countries.

    that's why naghihirap ang Africa kasi nature tends to balance itself out. masarap ang klima sa western hemisphere so opposite ang nangyayari sa Africa. ni hindi makapag-ani ng crops regularly bec. against all odds ang god-forsaken place na yun.

    ever wonder since the time of "we are the world" or "usa for Africa" in the 80's hanggang ngaun with "american idol gives back" eh andyan pa din problema ng Africa. The Americans know na sila ang take ng take or nag-benefit from nature, while people from another part of the world ang naghihirap para sa kanila


    matindi ang carbon emissions na'tin ngaun from cars, industries and from the overpopulated planet that does the same exhaling as inhaling hehehe


    I believe the US is aware of this that's why they are not taking measures to correct this. Greenpeace, Environmentalists and Al gore are just making it worse by trying to save lives. We really have to face the reality, kaya ganito nangyayari sa mundo ngaun (crisis here and there) is bec. we are overpopulated. US Policy is just let it happen, let nature correct itself ... balance itself. if it will cost half-a-billion people to do it, then so be it. tutal tayo naman lahat ang talaga reason kung bakit nagkaroon ng imbalance sa nature in the 1st place.

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    Relax guys.

    This story was scammed off a more generic story and replaced the companies with GM and Toyota. I even have a PowerPoint presentation of the generic one.

    On the GM vs. Toyota thing: basically, GM cars sucked for a while. More like two decades. And so people turned to other brands.

    On the US vs. Japan thing: in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter?

    On global warming: aren't we all guilty?

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    LOL. Funny how a parable about corporate problems became a debate on the "evils" of america and global warming. I was hoping for input on corporate solutions and employee relations.

    Why don't you guys start an "I hate America" thread and we'll all chime in there instead?

    Seems there's always a couple of guys who seeth and simmer over USA issues, maybe they'd rather live in Iran or North Korea? I'm sure you'll have a lot more fun and freedom there.

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    In responce to OGPRO's "Funny how a parable about corporate problems became a debate on the "evils" of america and global warming. I was hoping for input on corporate solutions and employee relations."

    There is an alternative - Economy of Communion.
    Very interesting: Economy of Communion businesses commit themselves to following management principles that enable them to bring Gospel values to bear on their day-to-day decisions while working within market structures. Cornerstones of business operations include ethical relationships with the government and with labor unions. The businesses foster communion with employees by paying particular attention to their health, well-being, and development. Communion with consumers and the public is achieved through concern for product safety, and respect for the environment.

    Therefore, the Economy of Communion is true to itself when everything is done out of love. It is lived where the employees, customers, suppliers, and competitors are loved, where there are no moral compromises or deceptive practices, where the environment is respected and protected, and where owners of different businesses support and help one another.

    Is this possible in the dog-eat-dog world of corporate America? Your guess is as good as mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eismann View Post
    IThere is an alternative - Economy of Communion.
    Very interesting: Economy of Communion businesses commit themselves to following management principles that enable them to bring Gospel values to bear on their day-to-day decisions while working within market structures. Cornerstones of business operations include ethical relationships with the government and with labor unions. The businesses foster communion with employees by paying particular attention to their health, well-being, and development. Communion with consumers and the public is achieved through concern for product safety, and respect for the environment.

    :

    hindi kaya mag-backfire ito internally. I mean if everyone is nice to each other or giving way to one another, how will one reach a goal? or how will one reach a quota?

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