California "Camp Fire" 2018

**oj88** · November 18th, 2018 09:31 AM

Camp Fire (2018) - Wikipedia

2018 California wildfires - Wikipedia

Main cause of the scale of the devastation is climate change (hot waether, dry air, strong winds) and lots of fuel (dry, dead trees and brushes).

**dreamur** · November 18th, 2018 09:35 AM

It hasn't rained seriously in cali for the last 3 or 4 years. Water level is precarious and everything is dry. You can literally start a fire by rubbing stones!

Albert Hammond - It Never Rains In Southern California (1973) HD 0815007 - YouTube

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**travajante** · November 18th, 2018 10:32 AM

Even Northern Ca gets really dry in the summer. Fields of gold.

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**yebo** · November 18th, 2018 01:52 PM

Fire is nature's way of renewing the forest. It has been happening for millions of years. It just so happens that man came into the picture in the last 100,000 years .... and started complaining about it.

**travajante** · November 18th, 2018 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

Fire is nature's way of renewing the forest. It has been happening for millions of years. It just so happens that man came into the picture in the last 100,000 years .... and started complaining abaout it.

But this has been happening way too frequently.[emoji17]

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**dr. d** · November 18th, 2018 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

But this has been happening way too frequently.[emoji17]

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"we have not been on this earth as a species, long enough to know what 'too frequently' means."

the late prof punongbayan (?) said something like, "it is nature doing its thing. and the best we can do, is to keep out of its way".

**travajante** · November 18th, 2018 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

"we have not been on this earth as a species, long enough to know what 'too frequently' means."

the late prof punongbayan (?) said something like, "it is nature doing its thing. and the best we can do, is to keep out of its way".

The Ferguson Fire was just this past July, contained a month after. Now, this.[emoji53]

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**dr. d** · November 18th, 2018 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

The Ferguson Fire was just this past July, contained a month after. Now, this.[emoji53]

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how was it, 20,000 years ago?
for all we know, it could have been once a month, or once a year, or...

we simply have no idea of how common these fires were, back when there were no humans to write about it.

**travajante** · November 18th, 2018 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

how was it, 20,000 years ago?
for all we know, it could have been once a month, or once a year, or...

we simply have no idea of how common these fires were, back when there were no humans to write about it.

There likely is an inverse prop relationship between world forest area/density & human population. Don't you believe it a logical & safe assumption, doc?[emoji4]

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**dr. d** · November 18th, 2018 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

There likely is an inverse prop relationship between world forest area/density & human population. Don't you believe it a logical & safe assumption, doc?[emoji4]

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errr...i do not understand the proposition.

but i do believe that there were more plants, trees, and other chlorophyll-containing life forms back then, for burning.

but if it is assumed that emerging humans cut down trees, then it is logical to assume also, that there will be less wild fires because there are less trees to burn.

so, were there more wild fires back when there were less or no humans yet? are there more fires, now that there are more humans?

i don't know.