mazda familia 323 97 model - idling problem?

**KURTLANCE** · July 30th, 2009 05:24 AM

Guys, baka matulungan nyo ko i have my problem matagal na sa failia 97 model (A/T). Everytime na ginagamit ko sya galing sa pahinga (min. of 5 hrs. rest) or park namamatay yung makina ko. Considering na kapapaadjust lang ng minor to 0.9 mga ilang araw lang baba nanaman ng minor sa 0.5 to 0.6 kaya hanggang ngayon ang baba ng minor ko. Pansin ko lang after gamitin ng 5 - 10 mins long run okay na takbo ang minor tumaas ng konti up to 0.8, napacheck ko na at palinis yung servo motor ganun pa rin ang sakit ng oto eh.

Another problem is kapag naka open A/C ko ang tagal ng response ng brake kaya malimit di ko ginagamit A/C delikado kasi.

Ano pa kaya pede ko pacheck? electrical? Alternator? help naman po. . . .

**niky** · July 30th, 2009 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by KURTLANCE

Guys, baka matulungan nyo ko i have my problem matagal na sa failia 97 model (A/T). Everytime na ginagamit ko sya galing sa pahinga (min. of 5 hrs. rest) or park namamatay yung makina ko. Considering na kapapaadjust lang ng minor to 0.9 mga ilang araw lang baba nanaman ng minor sa 0.5 to 0.6 kaya hanggang ngayon ang baba ng minor ko. Pansin ko lang after gamitin ng 5 - 10 mins long run okay na takbo ang minor tumaas ng konti up to 0.8, napacheck ko na at palinis yung servo motor ganun pa rin ang sakit ng oto eh.

Another problem is kapag naka open A/C ko ang tagal ng response ng brake kaya malimit di ko ginagamit A/C delikado kasi.

Ano pa kaya pede ko pacheck? electrical? Alternator? help naman po. . . .

Eliminate vacuum problems... check all of the hoses attached to the throttle body and vacuum canister for leaks.

Raising the idle by the screw is the absolute last thing you should do... it covers up the problem momentarily, but with EFI cars, the computer will just readjust the idle back to whatever abnormal level it was beforehand.

Unless your mechanic knows how to prevent the computer from readjusting (on Nissans, if I remember correctly, you had to disconnect the TPS... I don't know how to do this on Mazdas except by shorting the diagnostic port... which is as risky as it sounds...)... don't let him f*** around with the idle screw on an EFI car.

Also check that your AC clutch is functioning well and that your accessory belts are the proper tension... but I suspect a vacuum leak is your problem given this weird set of symptoms.

**nickriingen** · July 30th, 2009 04:50 PM

If your car is fuel injected, have your engine check at shops equipped with diagnostic scan tool. Don't let mechanics without using scan tool tamper or check the sensors using the usual kapa kapa, trial and error method or worse tantia meter. Bigger problem will occur once they do this since they will tell you to replace this and that without proper diagnosis. Others will tell you that the trouble lies on the ECU!

**nickriingen** · July 30th, 2009 04:57 PM

If your car is fuel injected, have it check at shops equipped with proper diagnostic scan tool. Don't let anyone without this tool diagnose your car since they will resort to the usual kapa kapa,hula hula, trial and error method or worse, tantiameter style. More problem will occur since they will advise you to replace this and that without the proper diagnosis.

**KURTLANCE** · July 31st, 2009 02:52 AM

nickriingen and niky thanks a lot for the immidiate response.

I will try to check with mechanic the vacuum leak maybe this week end. And at the same time if idling problem is still present I will try schedule it to diagnostic scanner. One of my mechanic propose to bring it to Las Piñas at YOKOHAMA meron daw doon.

nickriingen how much does it cost kaya yung Diagnostic scan?

Or may mairecommend ka na merong ganitong tools/ equipment. Much better po malapit sa Laguna.

Thanks. . .

**niky** · July 31st, 2009 12:27 PM

Shouldn't cost more than a thousand to 1.5k bucks... depending on the place.

But if you're not throwing a code yet, go for the simple stuff... vacuum, throttle (though you've checked it already), and EGR. At worst, you might have to replace the idle control motor.

**OldSchoolHack** · August 1st, 2009 07:56 AM

was the car shaking? i mean does the rpm go down and the car shakes when you turn on the engine and turn on the aircon? when you turn right or left does the rpm go down? and the car shakes?

these are classic problems of the mazda familia 90's series.

if you are not a DIY person, try bring it to KIA Pasay. Or check mo www.mazdatech.org.

**KURTLANCE** · August 3rd, 2009 07:47 AM

OldSchoolHack,
Correct. But the problem is I dont know exactly the KIA Pasay. Currently I am living here in Laguna. Can you give me the direction of your recommended shop? How long does it take while repairing the car? How much does it cost? Is there car parts for replacement during repair of this idling problem?

**mazy** · August 19th, 2009 04:05 PM

KUrtlance, im new in this site nabasa ko problem mo i have mazda too ang alam ko pag rpm naglalaro ang problem is servo kit try mo palinis servo kit mo baka madumi na or baka may leak ung air na dumadaan sa hose, sa banaue merong servokit surplus..alam ko din kung san ka pde makabili dun i hope natulungan kita

**KURTLANCE** · August 20th, 2009 01:52 AM

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Well thanks for your advised, I did already na ipa-diagnosed ang oto actually 3 different service center na at ang mahirap dun iba iba ang advise nila.hehehe. Kapag may pera ako dalhin ko sa KIA pasay.