KIA Sorento LX 2013

[AntonM]

Guy i'm really new when it comes to SUVs.

With both experiences, would it be an advantage if you had the AWD model? Does it really have more traction on street road or is it just good for off roads?

I would have prefered having awd at that instance. On my Sportage 4wd crdi, I never felt the same losing traction, especially on that smooth asphalt road, moreso it was zig-zag.

[parakitoJDM]

ser bimparts, pagkaka-alam ko ang AWD system ng Hyundai/Kia ay decoupled sya most of the time.. except when it detects slip at slow speed -below 40kph. . . But there's 4WD button to lock (engage) rear differential. Useful when u want to power out of mud;sand... then again it disengages at higher speed.

Ser TogaLock, Sparcom2, welcome ser. So mukhang off sa lahat ang March/1st week.

[sagingsaba]

hi guys/gals...just share some pix on last weekends roadtrip to Banaue.
total distance travelled around 715km++...

on the way up with very little bed rest, i was almost lulled into sleep till
a corner carver by the name of Toyota '86 (the Subaru BRZ twin) get my
blood pumping and woke me up.....

i tried to give him a good chase and over-took him on some occassions
only on the straights.... but unfortunately he's car is just too good around
the bends. plus (whoever he is) thumbs up to his driving ballz....

there was one incident though that i was chasing him and was too hot for one
RIGHT hander immediately followed by a LEFT Hander turn....was doing almost
120kph in Caringgal Maharlika hiway (close to Nueva Ecija/Vizcaya?) and with
the well paved asphalted section i lost grip momentarily and already heard the tires
fighting for traction.....it was kind of a close call (shouldn't do that again, haha).

anyway since there's alot of pictures, i just selected a few in thumbnail sizes for
viewing below....

ang saya sir ! kumusta kalye ? kailangan bang magpalit ng 17 inch o kaya na ng 20 inch ?

[TOGA LOCK]

Sir eric sali tayo sa EB ng mga 2013 kahit mas modelo ang kanila.

Sige sir, punta tayo. :-)

[bimparts]

More on traction ang AWD sir sa road especially when raining. Good thing about AWD minimal ang understeer. Yung unit mo bimparts may traction control di tulad ng PHDM sorento wala.

I would have prefered having awd at that instance. On my Sportage 4wd crdi, I never felt the same losing traction, especially on that smooth asphalt road, moreso it was zig-zag.

ser bimparts, pagkaka-alam ko ang AWD system ng Hyundai/Kia ay decoupled sya most of the time.. except when it detects slip at slow speed -below 40kph. . . But there's 4WD button to lock (engage) rear differential. Useful when u want to power out of mud;sand... then again it disengages at higher speed.

Ser TogaLock, Sparcom2, welcome ser. So mukhang off sa lahat ang March/1st week.

Thank you for explaining. Sorry i really did not know the advantage of having AWD and 4x2 model. I actually wanted the 4X2 variant only since wala naman ako balak mag off road and i was thinking na it might be more fuel efficient. A friend explained to me that at regular driving, it works like a front wheel drive vehicle. Then if you loose traction, the rear will compensate daw. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Btw, how was your fuel consumption on your long distance trip parakitoJDM?

[parakitoJDM]

ang saya sir ! kumusta kalye ? kailangan bang magpalit ng 17 inch o kaya na ng 20 inch ?

ser sagingsaba, IMHO kaya ser ng 20 inchers nyo. the road was surprisingly good as in konting konti lang yung ginagawang roads na medyo rough....
and yung may short section sa Nueva Ecija /Vizcaya na asphalt road may lumubog sa tire sides...suspect ko sa sobrang init and sobrang bigat ng trucks/container vans plying that route.... so either u ride the Crest or just stay on that lane. hehe.
saka short section na yung concrete road block by block may konting height elevation.... so it maybe perceived as digital waveform like road undulation....hehe, hirap i-explain.... pero kasi u have to know where i'm coming from....i'm used to travelling Manila-Bikol (South road) there roads are really less than ideal...so relative to that its really good.

Thank you for explaining. Sorry i really did not know the advantage of having AWD and 4x2 model. I actually wanted the 4X2 variant only since wala naman ako balak mag off road and i was thinking na it might be more fuel efficient. A friend explained to me that at regular driving, it works like a front wheel drive vehicle. Then if you loose traction, the rear will compensate daw. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Btw, how was your fuel consumption on your long distance trip parakitoJDM?

ser bimparts tama po yung pagka-explain sa inyo....para din sya more or less Honda's realtime 4WD system...it works like FWD most of the time w/c helps u save gas.... unlike Subaru's Full-Time 4WD that always drives all wheels....(O.T. used to be they'r a gas Guzzler,,,now seems to have been solved by switching to CVT tranny)....

eto nga pala ser yung fuel consumption post ginawa ko about dun sa roadtrip....
http://tsikot.com/forums/kia-cars-ta...8/index14.html

i think just trust the manual calculation..resulting to around 11.8kpl, medyo overly optimistic yung trip computer at 13.8kpl...

[parakitoJDM]

ang saya sir ! kumusta kalye ? kailangan bang magpalit ng 17 inch o kaya na ng 20 inch ?

ser IMHO, kayang kaya ng 20inchers mo....kasi relative fm. my normal provincial road trip (MNL-BIKOL) the road up north is really much better...
no major potholes, just a few section of unpaved roads and far in between sila....

and though may konting section sa Nueva Ecija/Vizcaya na parang natunaw yung asphalt dahil sa init and bigat ng truck/container van...so yung edges ng road ay may tire contours...dun mo lang idaan...o try to ride the crest...then you're ok....

ang medyo annoying lang ng konti...may 2-3km siguro na yung placing ng concrete blocks ay parang di pantay pantay....yung dulo ng isang block ay mataas siguro about half in than the next connecting block.....each block siguro mga 10m....if ur travelling 80km/h and above parang UP-DOWN UP-DOWN ka .....

over-all talaga the roads are pretty good...sabi nga nung hotel manager...the road fm. Banaue to Sagada has improved considerably (compared to last time i went there) ngayon kahit daw Sedan kaya na...mostly cemented section na sya...dati mga 6hrs...ngayon kaya na daw 3hrs. lang...

pero going to Bikol, Ilocos...i would suggest the 17"...

[parakitoJDM]

Thank you for explaining. Sorry i really did not know the advantage of having AWD and 4x2 model. I actually wanted the 4X2 variant only since wala naman ako balak mag off road and i was thinking na it might be more fuel efficient. A friend explained to me that at regular driving, it works like a front wheel drive vehicle. Then if you loose traction, the rear will compensate daw. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Btw, how was your fuel consumption on your long distance trip parakitoJDM?

ser tama understanding nyo....close sya to Honda's Realtime 4WD system. wherein it works as FWD most of the time lang...iba sya sa Subaru's AllTime 4WD.....pero advantange ng former ay supposed to be better fuel consumption as it minimize drivetrain losses...

eto pala details ng F.C. for the whole trip.
http://tsikot.com/forums/kia-cars-ta...8/index14.html

pero as a summary, based on manual calculation turns out i did 11.8kpl (tipid pa din considered na SUV dala 'ko...)

[parakitoJDM]

Thank you for explaining. Sorry i really did not know the advantage of having AWD and 4x2 model. I actually wanted the 4X2 variant only since wala naman ako balak mag off road and i was thinking na it might be more fuel efficient. A friend explained to me that at regular driving, it works like a front wheel drive vehicle. Then if you loose traction, the rear will compensate daw. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Btw, how was your fuel consumption on your long distance trip parakitoJDM?

redoing this response 3rd. time...sabi daw my answer needs to reviewed by Administrator...hhhhm dahil siguro sa URL na kasama...
anyway yung details ser andun sa Kia Fuel Consumption thread....

pero as a summary 11.8kpl for the 700km++ journey....sagad ko talaga one tankful...medyo kinabahan nga ako eh...kaso sabi sa distance to empty when
i entered NLEX on the way back eh may 120km pa daw...

[sparcom2]

Mas matipid ang 4x2 kaysa sa 4x4 simply because mas heavier ang 4x4. Nabasa ko ito sa sportage topic, i think same applies with sorento

[AntonM]

Thank you for explaining. Sorry i really did not know the advantage of having AWD and 4x2 model. I actually wanted the 4X2 variant only since wala naman ako balak mag off road and i was thinking na it might be more fuel efficient. A friend explained to me that at regular driving, it works like a front wheel drive vehicle. Then if you loose traction, the rear will compensate daw. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Btw, how was your fuel consumption on your long distance trip parakitoJDM?

Just to share my experience with 4WDs (since I've had 4WDs Cr-V, Fortuner and Sportage), most are "part time" or will kick in only when the sensor detects slippage in traction in the rear wheels, unless a 4WD button is engaged. Otherwise, these function mostly as front wheel drives. But my experience with these is that it is in those instances that one precisely needs both front and back wheels that it engages to give one better control and not just more power (which one needs for off roading). But on the subject of power, a friend told me about an article in Top Gear that Front Wheel drive actually generates more power than All Wheel drive since the power is distributed across all four wheels in the latter, while it is concentrated on just the front in the former. On a straight road race, the Front Wheel drive actually wins.

[parakitoJDM]

Originally Posted by TOGA LOCK
Agree ako dyan sir... Bili ako pa isa-isa siguro 19" hanggang makabuo ako ng 4. Hehehe...

ser meron ako na type-an na Toyota Highlander OEM wheels, madami available sa China....
mamya post ako pix 'nun...

eto nga pala yung 19"s para sa Highlander...babagay kaya 'to sa ride natin?

wider lang sya....yung sa Sorento LX parang 7" width,,,eto ata 7.5 or 8"....
stock tires nya ay 245/60-R19..... siempre kailangan palit din gulong para
same lang sa orig diameter....

ang direct upsize nya while maintaining tire diameter ay 255/50-R19 (same sa 235/65-R17)



Reason why you may ask? i could get the a set of 4 (wheels only) around Php26-28k shipped to Manila....now the question is it worth it? or just buy fm. shops in Manila?

[parakitoJDM]

Mas matipid ang 4x2 kaysa sa 4x4 simply because mas heavier ang 4x4. Nabasa ko ito sa sportage topic, i think same applies with sorento

ser proven yan, ang official posts na lang ng E.P.A. for FWD and AWD vehicles really show the latter does take a small toll in economy....

Just to share my experience with 4WDs (since I've had 4WDs Cr-V, Fortuner and Sportage), most are "part time" or will kick in only when the sensor detects slippage in traction in the rear wheels, unless a 4WD button is engaged. Otherwise, these function mostly as front wheel drives. But my experience with these is that it is in those instances that one precisely needs both front and back wheels that it engages to give one better control and not just more power (which one needs for off roading). But on the subject of power, a friend told me about an article in Top Gear that Front Wheel drive actually generates more power than All Wheel drive since the power is distributed across all four wheels in the latter, while it is concentrated on just the front in the former. On a straight road race, the Front Wheel drive actually wins.

oo ser kasi sa additional weight ay malaking factor...i think 4WD easily adds 90kg to the weight of the vehicle...that's two petite ladies or one big dude that taxes the engine, acceleration & fuel economy suffers a bit!

[AntonM]

ser proven yan, ang official posts na lang ng E.P.A. for FWD and AWD vehicles really show the latter does take a small toll in economy....



oo ser kasi sa additional weight ay malaking factor...i think 4WD easily adds 90kg to the weight of the vehicle...that's two petite ladies or one big dude that taxes the engine, acceleration & fuel economy suffers a bit!

Yes, you're right about the additional weight of the 4WD mechanism. But I think it is in the "distribution of power" why the FWD will generate and concentrate more power.

[parakitoJDM]

may available na din pa lang original Kia/Mobis Sorento Roofrail dto... more expensive than China copy and needs drilling to install...
pero upside nya its functional - load bearing sya....

[sparcom2]

ParakitoJDM, same ba bolt pattern ng highlander mags sa sorento?

[sagingsaba]

may available na din pa lang original Kia/Mobis Sorento Roofrail dto... more expensive than China copy and needs drilling to install...
pero upside nya its functional - load bearing sya....

ayus yan sir ha.. kumusta quality ?

[sagingsaba]

medyo OT.. anong recommended nyo na tire inflator ? napagkatuwaan kahapon yung sorento ko at pinasingaw ng mga makukulit na mga tambay... ayun na hassle ako sa pagpalit ng gulong.

[parakitoJDM]

Ser Sparcom2, same lang 5x114.2; pero offset nya ET35. Pero mukhang ok lang kasi sa Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels may 20" for ET35 din..

Ser sagingsaba, orig KIA/Mobis daw eh... so quality should be good. Ahh nadale ka pala. .pero good thing di binutas gulong mo. Ako wala din pero balak ko basic type lang...yung iba kasi may ilaw/radyo pa eh...lahat naman ata cigarette lighter lang di saksak.

[sagingsaba]

sir parakito , kumusta huper optik tint ?