2007 Kia Carens [ARCHIVE]

[joshua_ching]

Tsk!tsk!tsk!....mukhang bye bye na talaga kami sa KIA Carens hindi nanamin kaya ang 1.2M..sayang...hanap nalang ng iba may be Nissan Grand LIVINA...

Sana yung top of the line ng Nissan Grand livina ang bibilhin ko, pero parang mas gusto ng loob ko at ng misis ko ang Carens. Kung isasama mo kasi ang costs ng LTO at Insurance sa Grand Livina, ang price ay katulad din ng Carens CRDI LX AT!! Mas maganda ang interior ng Carens sa Grand Livina (pero depende ito sa tumitingin. Mas naduduling ang iba sa Carens, at ang iba naman ay sa Grand Livina). Ang ayaw ko pa sa GL ay tatlo lang ang kulay!! Sa Carens ay marami kang pagpipilian. Saka walang CRDI ang Livina...mahal na ang gasoline!! Walang roof rack ang Livina pero puwede namang palagyan at extra costs. Kaya pag pinagsama-sama mo ito pareho din, at aabot ka din ng P1.15M.....kaya eto sa Carens nag-end up kasi:
1. Mas malaki at maluwag
2. Mas matipid ang CRDI 2.0
3. Mas comfortable ang loob, lalo na sa long driving...sayang walang cruise control
4. May kula pula
5. Mas magandang pakinggan ang "Carens" sa "Livina"...sosyal ang Carens, ang Livina ay parang katulong...he he he...joke joke lang...

[zcorrea4]

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[tidus1203]

Sana yung top of the line ng Nissan Grand livina ang bibilhin ko, pero parang mas gusto ng loob ko at ng misis ko ang Carens. Kung isasama mo kasi ang costs ng LTO at Insurance sa Grand Livina, ang price ay katulad din ng Carens CRDI LX AT!! Mas maganda ang interior ng Carens sa Grand Livina (pero depende ito sa tumitingin. Mas naduduling ang iba sa Carens, at ang iba naman ay sa Grand Livina). Ang ayaw ko pa sa GL ay tatlo lang ang kulay!! Sa Carens ay marami kang pagpipilian. Saka walang CRDI ang Livina...mahal na ang gasoline!! Walang roof rack ang Livina pero puwede namang palagyan at extra costs. Kaya pag pinagsama-sama mo ito pareho din, at aabot ka din ng P1.15M.....kaya eto sa Carens nag-end up kasi:
1. Mas malaki at maluwag
2. Mas matipid ang CRDI 2.0
3. Mas comfortable ang loob, lalo na sa long driving...sayang walang cruise control
4. May kula pula
5. Mas magandang pakinggan ang "Carens" sa "Livina"...sosyal ang Carens, ang Livina ay parang katulong...he he he...joke joke lang...

Yes napakasayang talaga, Carens din gusto ng friend ko sana but the cheapest model is price beyond P1M was just asking too much for them. He could already get the top end Livina for less than a P1M tapos leather seats na... So ngayong Livina vs Innova na. Just when the Kia was gaining steam then this happens

[Eismann]

Honga sayang at 3 nga lang talaga kulay ng Livina....sana may black at red na Livina...

[joshua_ching]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Totoo ito sa ibang bansa, katulad ng US at iba pa, pero wala pang nakakapagsabi dito sa Pinas kung ganito nga ang mangyayari. Kung sakaling meron kang reliable source, paki-mention nga (short of compromising someone's position!) para di natin masabing rumor central. Based na rin sa life-experiences ko, alam kong posibleng mangyari ito, o katunayan nangyayari na batay nga doon sa latest price increase!! Sa ngayon ay sa price ng gasolina kinukuha ang subsidy ng Diesel sa Pinas, kaya nga mas mataas ang presyo ng gasolina kaysa sa Diesel. Pero di na nila puwedeng gawin ito dahil sa tataas ng husto ang presyo ng gasolina at ang tendency siyempre ay ang magtakbuhan ang mga tao sa diesel at tataas ang demand ng diesel. Kaya katulad ng sabi mo, ang pinaka common sense approach ay sa diesel din kunin ang subsidy ng "public sector". Kung magko-convert naman sa LPG/CNG ang marami, tataas ang price ng LPG/CNG dahil sa increased demand at later on e mababale-wala ang pagc-convert sa LPG/CNG....Hay buhay...wala kang puntahan ano?

Pero di naman biglaang mangyayari ito dahil sa matatakot din ang gobyerno natin sa "upheaval" ng masa/middle income families"...Pero ngayong taong ito maraming magaganap na maaring di natin inaasahan....let's hope that they're all good...

[joshua_ching]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Totoo ito sa ibang bansa, katulad ng US at iba pa, pero wala pang nakakapagsabi dito sa Pinas kung ganito nga ang mangyayari. Kung sakaling meron kang reliable source, paki-mention nga (short of compromising someone's position!) para di natin masabing rumor central. Based na rin sa life-experiences ko, alam kong posibleng mangyari ito, o katunayan nangyayari na batay nga doon sa latest price increase!! Sa ngayon ay sa price ng gasolina kinukuha ang subsidy ng Diesel sa Pinas, kaya nga mas mataas ang presyo ng gasolina kaysa sa Diesel. Pero di na nila puwedeng gawin ito dahil sa tataas ng husto ang presyo ng gasolina at ang tendency siyempre ay ang magtakbuhan ang mga tao sa diesel at tataas ang demand ng diesel. Kaya katulad ng sabi mo, ang pinaka common sense approach ay sa diesel din kunin ang subsidy ng "public sector". Kung magko-convert naman sa LPG/CNG ang marami, tataas ang price ng LPG/CNG dahil sa increased demand at later on e mababale-wala ang pagc-convert sa LPG/CNG....Hay buhay...wala kang puntahan ano?

Pero di naman biglaang mangyayari ito dahil sa matatakot din ang gobyerno natin sa "upheaval" ng masa/middle income families"...Pero ngayong taong ito maraming magaganap na maaring di natin inaasahan....let's hope that they're all good...

[alan99]

kunin nila carnival for 200k tapos may promo cla dadagdagn daw nila ng 150k. takot lang ako, laki na ng nagastos ko sa carnival lalo na sa makina. sa mga naka crdi na carens matibay kaya makina nito? kasi yung carnival ko 50k mileage palit ako ng belt and madami pa 25k nagastos go tapos daling tumagas ng langis sa valve cover and mausok masyado. Any pros and cons sa makina ng carens?

[Tailhook]

Its not a rumor, it is a fact. Diesel is subsidized in this country that's why its low but it does not reflect the true price of diesel in the world market. Notice last week diesel was raised by P2/L while unleaded rise P1/L. I have been saying this for some time now thats why I am not a believer of diesel as a long term money saver given the price trends and that diesel engines has such a huge price premium over gas engines, and no even if the riots erupt the government can do nothing cause its the world market that dictates the price of diesel. So if you can't pay up for it then you don't get it. Diesel is the fuel of the mass transport, unfortunately as mentioned wala rin silang magagawa since we don't control the prices of diesel. Its either they resort to alternative fuels (like LPG) or take the blow of the prices on their chin. And no government price controls will never work and has never worked. Remember no one sells at a loss, if oil companies are forced to sell at a loss they won't sell at all making the situation even worse... Just a food for thought, maybe a gas Carens is the better deal then convert it into LPG and its still cheaper than the diesel variant. Although not as torqy as the diesel variant, it gets the job done...

Even if the price of diesel is jacked up to equal that of unleaded or premium, diesel engined cars still enjoy an advantage when it comes to fuel costs. THis is due to the fact that diesel has more energy per volume than unleaded or premium plus the fact that diesel engines are, by design, inherently more efficient than petrol engines.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel#cite_note-TEDB-1 :

Burning effiency

The density of petroleum diesel is about 0.85 kg/l whereas petrol (gasoline) has a density of about 0.72 kg/l, about 15% less. When burnt, diesel typically releases about 38.6 MJ/l (138700 Btu per US gallon), whereas gasoline releases 34.9 MJ/l (125000 Btu per US gallon), about 11% less.[2] Diesel is generally simpler to refine from petroleum than gasoline

[tidus1203]

Sure sure its more fuel efficient than gas, but ever thought about the price difference of the engine when you buy the car? (its huge for the Carens its like P205,000 for the EX variants) How about maintenance costs? (diesel engine oil is more expensive than gas engine oil, the parts are expensive too compared to gas engines) How about insurance premiums ? (remember the more expensive a vehicle the higher the insurance) If unleaded and diesel is equal in price its so not worth it anymore. Hey don't get me wrong, the CRDi is a very good engine pero for its price difference I just don't buy the logic of getting one, unless of course you have high mileage which I don't...

[alagad]

I treat my Carens the same way I treat my Altis.
From driving habits, to maintanance, to loading.
Everything equal, my Altis 1.6 G a/t is more fuel efficient than my Carens on a km/L basis.

Maraming factors ang nag-ko-control sa FC ng isang sasakyan. See if you can review and change the following:
1. Driving habbits - refrain from racing and jack rabbit stops. Banayad lang ang arangkada at wag sobra-sobra ang tapak sa gas.
2. Tire inflation - look at the tire specs and set your tire pressures at just a tad below the mfgs. max tire pressure recommendation. Mas malambot ang gulong, mas mahirap gumulong at magastos sa gas/diesel.
3. Replace your air filter when dirty. Ang dumi ng hangin sa Metro-Manila kaya ang air filter e saglit lang madumi na at kailangan ng palitan.
4. Change your oil regularly, lalo na kung diesel engine. Pag laging Metro-Manila ang drive, palitan ng di lalagpas sa 3K-5k KM.

Ako dati harurot akong magpatakbo, pero nang minsan na mag-drive ako sa NLEX sinubukan kong mag-drive ng mabagal (80-90kph) at halos nag-improve ang FC ko nang 30% kumpara sa 100-120kph.. bukod doon ay di pa ako pagod na pagod sa pagda-drive dahil nga para lang akong namamasyal...