Crosswind 2007 inquiry

[Syuryuken]

e kung xwind versus adventure???

Sa Xwind pa rin mas matibay-tibay sa kargahan at mas maluwang compared sa Adventure.

[denier13]

For me ang masasabi ko lang sa crosswind is matipid talaga sa fuel.

[chua_riwap]

Sa mahal ng prices ng fuel ngayon, baka i-consider ko na lang yung mas matipid na option. And also, yung hindi "peborits" ng mga carnappers/carjackers.

Mataas din ba ang carnapping incidence sa Crosswind?

[rion]

xwind vs adventure?

xwind na...


OT: galing ako sa isang mall kanina. may nakita akong display Kia vehicles. katabi ng new sportage, may isang new suv pa, ang ganda, nakalimutan ko lang ang pangalan. cevena? seneza?$%#$%^#$ hindi ko na matandaan kung kia pa ba rin yun...

price is less than 900k. kasing laki ng sportage, but the rear design looks better than sportage... may diesel variants pa daw...

hay... memory loss...

[rsnald]

xwind vs adventure?

xwind na...


OT: galing ako sa isang mall kanina. may nakita akong display Kia vehicles. katabi ng new sportage, may isang new suv pa, ang ganda, nakalimutan ko lang ang pangalan. cevena? seneza?$%#$%^#$ hindi ko na matandaan kung kia pa ba rin yun...

price is less than 900k. kasing laki ng sportage, but the rear design looks better than sportage... may diesel variants pa daw...

hay... memory loss...

di naman kaya Kia Carens? yung panlaban ng Kia sa Avanza priced at P810K as per newspaper ads. 7 seater daw pero when I saw one on the road, I was wondering how 7 normal sized people would fit inside??? baka 5 small to medium sized adults then 2 kids, yun 7 people nga. 2.0L gas enigne nga lang so potential gas guzzler... we'll see.

[MACpod]

onga, i've seen that kia. mejo malabo ngang magkasya ang 7 normal sized persons!

pero ok nba mga engines ng kia ngayon?

[rion]

yun nga!



now that you mention it, yes the third row seats have pretty small space... parang bata lang kasya dun. but one owner here says it's still spacious because you can adjust the second row seats to make the third with more space.

since you mentioned kunti lang yung pasahero, at maga-out of town sila minsan... mas maganda siya dahil siguradong walang problema sa rough road. with projector lights pa...

consider the CRDi diesel version in your options nalang... if you can still wait...

[LPM]

MacPod post mo kung ano na ang napili mo.Tulad ko still comparing crosswind xti vs other MPV innova at un 2007 adventure.

[MACpod]

*LPM
nagstick ako sa xwind bro. I got my XTi nung first week of MAY from Inteco Balintawak. I drove it for a couple of weeks before returning overseas and all I can say is I didn't make the wrong choice.
My parents loved it (since para naman tlga sa kanila ito).
Radiator issues were already solved. Plus their new leaf springs did an improvement, tho matagtag parin ng konti sa front-facing 3rd row (when i tried to be a passenger). But still, not a huge problem for me.
I got the sterling silver, by the way. Nice.

[TJMaxx]

Ako rin. I have narrowed down my choices to two i.e. Crosswind XUV or Innova G D4D. No final decision yet as I am giving myself a month or two to really think about it. As of now, nakakalamang ang XUV for the following reasons:
1. Better fuel economy. Sa mga nababasa ko sa posts, it appears mas matipid ang Xwind both sa City at Highway.
2. Mas maganda ang styling. Kumpleto na sa accessories di tulad ng Innova na medyo bare ang dating.
3. Reputation of durability. We know very well na legendary ang tibay ng Isuzu engine. At nabasa ko nga sa isang post, if you want a gas engine, go for the Toyota but for diesel engines, go for the Isuzu.
4. Long term Cost of Ownership. Nakakabahala yung mga sinasabi sa ibang posts na di pa proven yung durability of the D4D over the long term specially on how it is affected by our "dirty" kind of diesel fuel. Sa ganyang aspect, proven na ang Isuzu.

On the other hand, may mga really strong points din ang Innova:
1. Ganda ng Interiors. Maluwag. Comfortable.
2. Hindi maingay. Hindi maalog. Di matagtag.
3. Toyota has good reputation for build quality.
4. Rated five stars ng halos lahat ng reviews sa magazine at sa net
na nabasa ko.

So dalawang malaking tanong lang ang nilalaro ko sa isipan ko in making a final choice:
a. Alin sa dalawa mas makakatipid ako sa gastos sa gasolina at piyesa? Malaki ba ang kaibhan nung dalawa o halos pareho lang? Over the long term, does fuel economy deteriorate for the Isuzu and for the d4d?
b. Alin sa dalawa ang puede kong gamitin ng pangmatagalan as in 10-15 years down the road? May available piyesa pa kaya by that time ang Innova? Ang Crosswind? Ang Toyota Diesel ba may reputasyong pangmatagalan?

Salamat sa mg inputs ninyo.

[MACpod]

*TJ
ako din Innova din ang pinagpilian ko over crosswind. mas maganda din ang interior nya. but nung tinimbang ko, mas importante pra sa akin ung fuel economy. actually un ung top consideration ko, that's why i decided on the xwind. Second ung proven na tibay nang makina.

but still maraming plus factors tlga ang innova. un nga lang di ko kasi alam kung gaano itatagal ang D4D dahil bago palang ito.

i hope you make thorough analysis tlga para satisfied ka sa magiging purchase mo. Good luck.

[rsnald]

*TJmax

dadagdag ako sa panggulo ng isip mo hehehe..nah.. just want to share my personal experience on the crosswind. i drive an xto btw.

- on fuel efficiency, I've been monitoring my fuel consumption since day 1 and after more than 166,000kms, still averaging 11km/liter city driving, 13-16km/li hiway driving, over-all average about 12.5km/liter. Of course I follow the change oil, change filters preventive maintenace every 5-8thousand kilometers and am also an avid biodiesel user.

- on reputation for diesel engines, isuzu wins that hands down simply because they've been developing diesel engines far longer than toyota. the 4ja1 engine itself has been around a long time. 1988 pa pala sya, siguro engine nung mga isuzu elf trucks noon sa japan. but the d4d engine of toyota is a new engine platform because it uses the common rail injection system. the crdi system has been around a long time, pero ngayon or fairly recently lang yata pumasok ang toyota dyan. isuzu was ahead when they released their 3.0L crdi engine powered trooper back in 2002(?) or 2001(?). madami din naging problem trooper non di lang masyado publicized unlike the d4d problems. as for availability of parts, I think the crosswind would have more parts since it shares the 4JA1 engine with the isuzu fuego 4x2 pickup trucks and its older sibling, the original hilanders SL, SLX, and even the orig hilander XTRM.

hth ;)

[saipeme]

*TJ
ako din Innova din ang pinagpilian ko over crosswind. mas maganda din ang interior nya. but nung tinimbang ko, mas importante pra sa akin ung fuel economy. actually un ung top consideration ko, that's why i decided on the xwind. Second ung proven na tibay nang makina.

but still maraming plus factors tlga ang innova. un nga lang di ko kasi alam kung gaano itatagal ang D4D dahil bago palang ito.

i hope you make thorough analysis tlga para satisfied ka sa magiging purchase mo. Good luck.

if you're after on fuel consumption and you prefer the xwind choose the lower variant xti...being lighter than xuv you can get a better fuel economy...my innova is more fuel efficient than my colleague sportivo...

[MACpod]

if you're after on fuel consumption and you prefer the xwind choose the lower variant xti...being lighter than xuv you can get a better fuel economy...my innova is more fuel efficient than my colleague sportivo...

thanks bro. yup, i did choose the XTi. got it last month and masaya naman ako sa fuel consumption. i drove it once from manila to lucban,quezon and vv, naka 23km/l ako! whew! very happy!

[Syuryuken]

Ano EB na???

Haping-hapi din ako sa FC ng XTRM ko sobrang tipid talaga ang 4ja1

[MACpod]

Ano EB na???

Haping-hapi din ako sa FC ng XTRM ko sobrang tipid talaga ang 4ja1

Daya! nakabalik nako dito. hehe. sayang! gusto ko panman yang EB.

Pero sige i set-na naten kasi sa tingin ko ang EB tumatagal nang ilang buwan bago ma-finalize at matuloy so siguro bakasyon ko ule pagnafinalize na! hehe.

[Psalm136:2]

In my case, wala po akong masabi sa dayunyor ko (xuv). Pagdating sa fuel economy, kargahan at laki. Di rin ako nagsisisi sa pagpili. Though totoo po yung sabi ni sir rsnald, medyo hirap sa power ang crosswind pagdating sa overtaking lalo na pag nag menor ka. Pero on the other hand, pag naka bwelo naman sya uli, pwedeng makipaghabolan sa mga gasoline engined revos, adventures even some cars. Isa pang plus ng crosswind is akyatan even with full load.

[renmin]

Just recently buy a new sportivo blizzard gray from isuzu gencars makati at para sa akin maganda naman ang performance nya especially tha engine MT na may turbo na rin...

[puroy]

sori OT pero im confused in selecting either advneture or avanza. ano po ba mas ok for 100K difference. pero sa adventure kasi, all powered na and 2.5 diesel. what do oyu think guys?

[Psalm136:2]

Sir, which do you prefer; diesel or gas? Ganun lang po kasimple, since dalawa lang pala ang pagpipilian mo.

Now if you want to choose vehicle brands in case diesel ang preference mo, then palagay ko you have to check all the topics related to diesel engined vehicles. (matagal to )