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  1. Join Date
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    #11481
    yun sa video link kasi facebook ng babae pala. so shaken but not stirred talaga sya after the collision and she will be very very paranoid

    dalawam beses na ako nakapag-drive ng lumulusot na preno, yun una nakalimutan higpitan nun mekaniko yun yun buong closed system ng brake hydraulic system. yun isa nman may hangin, kasi tawagin ba naman ng shell mechanic yun promodizer sa shell na tiga-bomba ng preno. oo lang oo yun, hayun may hangin pala. buti palabas pa lang ako, di ko tinamaan yun nagpapagasolina

    conventional system naman kasi yan Isuzu brake system, so change fluid yan, if wala tama ang brake master or non-defective ang brake master.

    taka lang ako dun sa storya nya, yun pinadala ng Isuzu na mechanics parang walang alam, ano ba yun mga ojt? dapat yan ni-lilift na para makita talaga kung may tagas yun brake lining (ngatngat daga) o may hangin. pano nila ma-diagnose sa garahe lang yan kung wala tools. ni wala sila dala pangtanggal ng gulong dyan, tapos sabi nila okey na

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    #11482
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    insurance dapat for fender-bender. fault is from the isuzu driver.

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    i remember a similar case some years ago.
    the insurance and the casa were pointing to each other.
    "accident yan! insurance ang sasagot!"
    "defective product yan! sagot ng manufacturer yan!"

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    #11483
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Hindi lang dapat ganyan ang damage kung nawalan ka ng preno at the very least durog grille and headlights at abot hanggang radiator and turbo intercooler ang damage. On the positive side ganyan pala katibay ang mu-X in the event of frontal colliion dahil sa faulty brakes then pwede pa ma-drive pauwi. Mas marami pa lalo bibili ng mu-X kapag ganyan
    you have point, parang bumper lang naman nasira, based on the video. kung totally lusot ang preno, total na din yan car na yan. di ko na nakita yun dashcam video na na-hit yun hilux, sobrang bilis ba? kung sobrang bilis, dapat pati airbag nag-deploy.

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    #11484
    the bumper and fender damage is not really dependent on the force of the impact.
    it is more a product of the distance of the impact.
    wala nang ibang nasira, dahil tumigil na ang pag-abante ng sasakyan.

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    #11485
    Does ABS have limitations?
    Yes. Like many other safety features, realizing the full benefits of ABS depends largely on whether or not drivers interact appropriately with it. Interacting appropriately with safety features like ABS means continuing to drive safely and attentively. Driver behaviours like speeding, tailgating, or driving while fatigued can negate the beneficial aspects of ABS. For example, tailgating can make it impossible to steer and avoid a vehicle ahead that suddenly slams on its brakes. Even if ABS activates in this case, there simply will not be enough time to avoid a collision due to insufficient distance between the two vehicles. Similarly, by increasing a driver’s reaction time, fatigue or drowsiness can cause drivers to brake too late to safely avoid a collision.

    ABS does not compensate for unsafe driving or poor road conditions. In order to ensure the ideal performance of ABS, drivers must continue to use caution and good judgment behind the wheel. When combined with safe driving practices, safety features like ABS have been proven to mitigate and prevent road crashes.

    Source: Brain on Board

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    #11486
    Diba disc-brakes na din yung likod ng mu-x? Eh mukang alaws din pala pag basa ang kalsada. 😂

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    #11487
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Diba disc-brakes na din yung likod ng mu-x? Eh mukang alaws din pala pag basa ang kalsada. 😂
    Kahit naka Brembo ka pa na brakes at may EBD and Emergency Brake Assist the ABS will still prevent the wbeels from locking to help you steer away safely from possible collision. Kahit ok ang brakes kung di naman maganda grip ng tires on wet or even dry conditions it will still affect the overall stopping performance of the vehicle.

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    #11488
    Di ko makita link nung sa dash cam. Yung mga reactions kasi sa fb mabilis daw yung mux tapos basa pa kalye.

    Regardless, there's still something wrong dun sa brake nya. Lumulusot pag inaapakan. Hinay hinay kasi sa pag apak ng preno di naman silinyador yan.

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    #11489
    Quote Originally Posted by essjei55 View Post
    Di ko makita link nung sa dash cam. Yung mga reactions kasi sa fb mabilis daw yung mux tapos basa pa kalye.

    Regardless, there's still something wrong dun sa brake nya. Lumulusot pag inaapakan. Hinay hinay kasi sa pag apak ng preno di naman silinyador yan.
    Tinanggal na yung video kasi noticeable na mabilis yung takbo tapos nung malapit na biglang bumagal takbo just before bumangga kasi kung talagang di kumagat ang preno eh di sana same lang speed until bumangga sa naka full stop na Hilux. In fairness parang mas malaki pa na damaged sa Hilux kaysa sa mu-X but still hindi rin nadurog yung tail lights ng pick up.

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    #11490
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Kahit naka Brembo ka pa na brakes at may EBD and Emergency Brake Assist the ABS will still prevent the wbeels from locking to help you steer away safely from possible collision. Kahit ok ang brakes kung di naman maganda grip ng tires on wet or even dry conditions it will still affect the overall stopping performance of the vehicle.
    Regardless of how it happened, sana isolated case lang ito. May dalawang incidents na kasi ang isuzu within this month. Una yung crosswind, nag-vape sa kalye dahil nag-runaway yung diesel tapos eto naman yung di naging effective ang preno, although syempre may factors or reasons din kung bat nangyari, hindi yung basta basta lang.

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    #11491
    Here's another possibility. Remember, the driver is also a mechanic. Who knows kung kinalikot na ng driver yun brakes when they returned home. The driver/mechanic can easily blame the brakes when the accident happened para hindi siya ang at fault. Kung lusot, hindi ka na malakas ang loob iuwi ang vehicle because wala kang brakes. No driver in his right mind will drive a vehicle without brakes.

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    #11492
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Hindi lang dapat ganyan ang damage kung nawalan ka ng preno at the very least durog grille and headlights at abot hanggang radiator and turbo intercooler ang damage. On the positive side ganyan pala katibay ang mu-X in the event of frontal colliion dahil sa faulty brakes then pwede pa ma-drive pauwi. Mas marami pa lalo bibili ng mu-X kapag ganyan
    What? Advise mo nalang sya pacheck sa dealer nya period para maiayos na yan. No need to advertise your mux bro.

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    #11493
    Sablay na nga ang pag hawak ng isuzu sa issue eh kakampihan pa. Kaya nagiging gago mga dealers natin dahil sa mga fanbois na to eh.

    Ayosin ang serbisyo!

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    #11494
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    What? Advise mo nalang sya pacheck sa dealer nya period para maiayos na yan. No need to advertise your mux bro.

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    I am not in a habit of taking advantage of other people's misfortunes but I am always willing to learn from other people's mistakes.

    It is the manufacturer and distributor's business to advertise their product. I paid Isuzu the full amount of my mu-X and to tell you honestly no one convinced or in any way forced me to get a mu-X it is my own decision.

    I am just stating facts which can be applicable to other brands, it just so happen that mu-X is the vehicle involved in this situation.

    Kaya nga sabi ko on the positive side, aba kung totoong nag fail ang brakes at ganyan lang ang damage kahit anong brand at type ng vehicle eh mapapabilib talaga ako but unfortunately i'm not convinced.

    I also avoid giviing unsolicited advice to anybody baka kasi ako pa ma-blame.

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    #11495
    Because of this incident, medyo na co-conscious na ako sa pag apak sa brake ni mu-x ko (same model as in the vid)...though im not afraid nor paranoid...conscious and more mindful lang.

    The next time na magpa pms ako, i'll be asking the SA on his take on this.

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    #11496
    May pagkajologs nga ang isuzu casa, first time ko nagpaservice dun and sabi ko senyo pati kape, 3in 1 kuha ka ng sachet tapos kumuha ka ng hot water sa dispenser. Di ba katulad sa iba, press lang ng press, ano gusto mo cafe mocha, frap o latte. Tapos yun kape pa sa isuzu casa priginal black or brew. Eh ako pa mahilig ako sa milk based coffee.

    Sobrang nanibago talaga ako sa isuzu casa. after owning my first MuX. Eh laking honda, ford, mitsu ako eh . Even sa hyundai pasig walang binatbat ang isuzu casa.

    Pero im not a discriminating person, as a citizen, i try to understand and assimilate where I am a d adjust. Mostly kasama ko sa isuzu casa, nagpaparepair ng uv express nila or isizu truck . So i just sat there observing both the isuzu reps and the customers. So i came to conclusion, kung ganun lagi kausap ng isuzu reps daily. Eh nag -adjust na din sila sa lingo ng customer types nila.

    Yan kasi nag post ng video, girl na madalas sa travel. So malamang culture shock sya sa phoneor sa kung papano magsalita isuzu reps.

    And also medyo magkaka anxiety ka din pag sa service bay ka naman natingen, kasi totl iszu sayo. Katabi mo sa kanan nkr, sa left elf, as in purong bakal ang edges ng mga truc k na ito, tapos ikaw lagi mo detail car mo sa kin-tab

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    #11497
    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Video

    Will look for the other one, pero this is the more telling one. Looks like the brake pedal gets mashed to the floor with very very little pressure.
    Saw the video at sa aking opinion ay may something not right sa preno. Sobrang lalim at halos walang resistance yung pedal.

    For emergency braking di ka talaga ititigil pag ganyan preno which is what happened.

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    #11498
    needs more airbags...





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    #11499
    Question lang: Kapag nagpalit ba ng bulbs ng headlights at fog lights (plug and play HID headlamps yung ipinalit), mavovoid ba yung warranty ng MU-X? Or yung warranty sa stock bulbs lang ang mavovoid? Thank you.

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    #11500
    Quote Originally Posted by Bentista View Post
    Question lang: Kapag nagpalit ba ng bulbs ng headlights at fog lights (plug and play HID headlamps yung ipinalit), mavovoid ba yung warranty ng MU-X? Or yung warranty sa stock bulbs lang ang mavovoid? Thank you.
    Warranty sa electrical ang mavvoid. 1yr lang naman ang warranty pagdating sa electrical. Wag ka na magpalit ng plug and play hid kit lalo na sa fog lights. Ks led ka na lang sa low beam or hid retrofit na

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