Honda Cars PH to cease local manufacturing operations effective March 2020

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Marami ng nagsara dahil sa UNION

Alam ko ito dahil marami kaming clients naglipatan na sa ibang bansa dahil sa mga welga welga na yan

Tas dagdag pa ang mataas na Op Exp

Kaya minsan nag iisip na kaming mag iba ng linya eh, dahil nawawala na mga planta dito

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[ice15]

Honda to shut down car production facility in PH due to ‘market forces’ | VISOR PH

Article from Visor PH.

I don't thnk most of us here had any illusions that building cars in PH was a tad more expensive compared to others, but I've been trying to look for the article where I found importing cars from elsewhere were, on average, 20% cheaper than building them locally here.

So far, this is the only article that lightly touches on the matter, but no exact figures mentioned about the difference in importing from other countries.

https://www.bworldonline.com/govt-ma...imported-cars/

Honda to halt car production in the Philippines | Nikkei Asian Review

Another factor I can see is that the plant only produced 7,000 units last year... It's capacity is 30,000

Under-utilized yung plant, I also don't think mabenta yung City sa ASEAN since available din yung Grace sa Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore (parallel import)

Since outgoing model na yung City... Sana maisip ng Gov't to buy the plant (and the City) to build a local car... Parang Proton

[uls]

so there's no point in maintaining a car plant that only makes cars for PH market which is very small

buti sana kung for making cars for local market AND for export

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wala kinalaman ang "chinese invaders" sa pag sara ng planta

[shadow]

Diba ang toyota mag invest din dapat nun time ni pnoy? Ang naaalala ko malaking incentives binigay sa mga mag manufacture dito. Ano na ba nangaywri doon?


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[vinrem]

Could be one of the factors (is this confirmed?).

Their plant is in Laguna,- malakas pa rin ang mga unions diyan.....

Nasa visor.ph sa fb ang article.

What happened when Honda PH told its workers about the plant closure? | VISOR PH

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[uls]

di talaga pang car manufacturing ang Pinas pero gusto parin ipilit

ung mga pinoy-made car advocates na ka-debate ko 10 years ago nasaan na ang pinoy-made car niyo?

pati mga Hapon give up na rin

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di talaga forte ng Pinas ang manufacturing

pang import lang talaga

tapos ang pang earn natin ng $$$ OFW and BPO

yan na talaga ang pinas

di manufacturing

[shadow]

di talaga pang car manufacturing ang Pinas pero gusto parin ipilit

ung mga pinoy-made car advocates na ka-debate ko 10 years ago nasaan na ang pinoy-made car niyo?

pati mga Hapon give up na rin

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di talaga forte ng Pinas ang manufacturing

pang import lang talaga

tapos ang pang earn natin ng $$$ OFW and BPO

yan na talaga ang pinas

di manufacturing

Kung gawin ng govt na bawal union pag sa mga industrial park based yun plant then long term incentives bigay sa company.


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[Monseratto]

Unfortunate for the local plant workers. Damn the chinese invaders!

China has nothing to do with Honda's closure... Kayo mga local consumers ayaw bumili ng City at BRV...

[uls]

aside from union nandun ung uncertainty ng incentives

one admin can give incentive tapos babawiin ng susunod na admin

[Athrunzala]

It seems the KMU really infiltrated the Honda workers' union. That plant's closure is what happens when KMU and other communist-infiltrated unions don't t want to give in to their CBA.

[Monseratto]

Ayaw umalis mga workers sa planta.... nag vivigil kuno.

Honda Cars PH closure shocks workers | Inquirer Business

The HCPI workers, many of whom have been with the company for over 25 years, refused to leave the premises inside the Laguna Technopark.

“We will stay here until somebody from the top management comes down and talks to us,” said union vice president Christopher Oliquino, 42.

Oliquino said the workers were staying in the canteen and locker rooms, hoping the supplies left by the food concessionaire and the dry goods from the cooperative’s stockroom could sustain their unplanned vigil.

The union, Liga ng mga Manggagawa sa Honda, claimed there was no prior notice, not even a vague indication of a shutdown, even as the company toward the end of January reduced the production of its BR-V models from 35-38 units to only about 18 a day.

Before this, the company had decided to stop producing the Honda City model at its Laguna plant starting February, Oliquino said.

Saturday surprise
On Saturday afternoon, unsuspecting workers nearing the end of their shift were called in for a meeting that they thought would tackle the company’s sales or the collective bargaining negotiations scheduled for August.

They were surprised to see instead a projector that showed a recorded video of HCPI president Noriyuki Takakura announcing the plant closure.

“People turned emotional (upon watching the video). Some supervisors were there too, but they claimed they also had no idea,” Oliquino said.

“Then we started seeing (on the outside) many heavily built men, like security guards, setting up the barricade fence (at the gate),” he said.

[Athrunzala]

so why is it that KMU members are really interested and protesting near the Honda plant when it's none of their business in the first place. I bet these are only extortionists just what the communists did in the 70s and 80s

[uls]

let's stop speculating na

[shadow]

aside from union nandun ung uncertainty ng incentives

one admin can give incentive tapos babawiin ng susunod na admin

Problema kasi dito kay duterte, kahit valid contracts hinde susundin kung galit siya.


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[Ry_Tower]

let's stop speculating na

The City's sales really suffered because of the Wigo and Mirage plus the Vios' continued patronage of consumers. BRV naman kasi iilan nga lang di bumibili. May Avanza na kasi, nadagdagan pa Rush at Ertiga na maganda din benta.

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[uls]

Problema kasi dito kay duterte, kahit valid contracts hinde susundin kung galit siya.


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yes pero even before du30 may reputation na ang pinas hindi nag ho-honor ng contract

[_Cathy_]

Ayaw umalis mga workers sa planta.... nag vivigil kuno.

Honda Cars PH closure shocks workers | Inquirer Business

Kawawa yung 25 years in the company. I hope they get a good package.

Parang samin lang, video call from head office when they announced the outsourcing to India at bulagaan din

What will happen to the employees that are in their 40s and up? It won't be easy to find a new job anymore

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[heavenlee]

DOLE, DTI to convince Honda Cars Philippines to continue production in Laguna

Government to the rescue -- make them an offer they can't refuse?

" DTI Secretary Ramon Lopez will also be present at the meeting, according to Bello.

The Labor secretary said they will discuss with HCPI management the clear reason and the possible impact of the closure."

"The government officials will try to convince HCPI to continue its operation in Laguna to save the jobs of over 300 employees, according to Bello."

[uls]

and what can the gov't do?

promise honda the gov't will buy all the cars that come off the assembly line?

[17Sphynx17]

and what can the gov't do?

promise honda the gov't will buy all the cars that come off the assembly line?

I am honestly curious what possible empty promises can be made?

If they give (any) incentives to Honda, Toyota and MMPC will want the same as well defeating anything they can give to Honda and they'd be back at square one.

Pero what other "clear reason" could they expect to hear except "poor sales don't justify maintaining local production" + "higher cost to produce locally vs importing"

As for manufacturing jobs, well, PH has always been a laggard because unions keep denying reality that automation is key to be competitive. And since we are reliant on manual labor, you can see manufacturing fall to the way side as well as agri development (Something that we could have excelled in)