RORO Bus and Ford Everest Road Mishap

[cast_no_shadow]

I dont know if this thread suits Goon squad.

I saw the news last night regarding the accident between a RORO bus and Ford Everest in Quezon province, Investigators said that the Everest counter-flowed traffic in order to overtake vehicles on a blind curve. Because of that its a head-on collision with the approaching RORO bus, all the passengers of the SUV were dead. The driver of the bus got imprisoned.

Which made me think, if im the bus driver its like being in the right place at the wrong time. Im at no fault but still i'll be imprisoned for the death of 4 people because of the stupidity of the SUV's driver.

Isn't it unfair? Is it a universal law around the world? wherein you got involved in an accident and the one who died is the cause of the accident still you will be liable?

Like when you hit a jaywalking pedestrian? or lets say at NLEX wherein no pedestrian is allowed to cross loiter etc.

Last example is those suicidal motorcylce drivers, most of the time the one inside the cage is always at fault.

I think they should ammend that law whatever law that is.

just my 2 cents.

[Ry_Tower]

^ There will still be a case sir because of the deaths but obviously the driver will not be liable. 24 hours lang siya i-detain at pagkatapos noon puwede na rin naman palayain afaik.

[niky]

SOP in the Philippines. If you're driving the bigger vehicle in an accident, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Which is why unlicensed motorcycle riders are so brazen... because whatever happens, they're not at fault... according to the law...

[vinj]

Googled and saw this vid:

[loidch]

those Roro buses are quite unlucky. i remember one of those buses also was involved in an accident along Star tollway killing 2 passengers when the driver fell asleep on the wheel 2 weeks ago.

[frequenzy]

yung jaywalking pedestrian, liable pa rin talaga ang driver since hindi naman sasakyan yung binangga mo. kaya doble ingat na lang.

meron din ako napanood sa news na yung motor nag counterflow tapos yung driver ng bus ang nakakulong? di ko rin maintindhan yun.

[Ry_Tower]

SOP in the Philippines. If you're driving the bigger vehicle in an accident, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Which is why unlicensed motorcycle riders are so brazen... because whatever happens, they're not at fault... according to the law...

Yes, that is indeed the problem with that law. You still need to prove your innocence even if its obvious its the other party that's at fault.

[ozcity]

solid line = no overtaking

[cast_no_shadow]

^ There will still be a case sir because of the deaths but obviously the driver will not be liable. 24 hours lang siya i-detain at pagkatapos noon puwede na rin naman palayain afaik.

I do hope he'll be freed, kaso homicide nga daw ikakaso sa kanya. i pity the driver.. Ang the sad part madali ka madiin pag may namatay, isama mo pa na mahirap ka at ang nabangga mo is mayaman. Walang areglo yan malamang.

SOP in the Philippines. If you're driving the bigger vehicle in an accident, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Which is why unlicensed motorcycle riders are so brazen... because whatever happens, they're not at fault... according to the law...

2 weeks ago, got involved in an accident with a motorcycle major damage inabot ng oto ko. FYI Kasalanan ng motor, he got injured pa. Hindi na nga ako binayaran, pinagamot ko pa. WTF! diba?

yung jaywalking pedestrian, liable pa rin talaga ang driver since hindi naman sasakyan yung binangga mo. kaya doble ingat na lang.

meron din ako napanood sa news na yung motor nag counterflow tapos yung driver ng bus ang nakakulong? di ko rin maintindhan yun.

example ko dyan is lets say sa SLEX/NLEX/SKYWAY ka and there is a maxmimum and minimum speed limit, being a law abiding citizen sinunod mo yun average speed. Then bigla may tao ka nasagasaan. Paano na?

solid line = no overtaking

Seems like a lot of drivers out there hindi alam yan. Hello jeepneys!

Ngayon asan ang hustisya?

[Ry_Tower]

^ Hassl lang talaga sa driver pero malaking company naman RORO, hopefully may legal assistance din sa kanya.

Yung solid yellow line na yan, kanina muntik din ako. Hilux na 4x4 D4D nag-overtake kahit na tag-ulan, buti maluwang daan at madali maka-adjust. tsk tsk tsk. Kopal lang talaga iba eh.

[cast_no_shadow]

And we all know madaming gunggong na bus drivers, pero maaawa ka din naman kung totally wala siya liability diba?

OT
Before i experienced naman, although hindi solid line yung asa daan.

broad daylight, national road 2 lanes. I assume kitang kita ako nung killer santrans na yun, he counterflowed. I flashed him my lights still wala pa din pakelam he didnt bother to go back to his lane, upto the point na head-on kami talagang tututluyan ako. ayun biglang kabig ako sa kanan the sad part lubak lubak yun shoulder.

[cast_no_shadow]

Yung Everest nagmukhang yaris sa lakas ng impact.

[cocoy]

if im the bus driver,, i would quote the LTO rules from their website. which states.. that if a person (driver) is involved in an accident while over taking he is liable and at fault... its that simple..

i have noticed that most of the accidents that are really bad in the provinces,involved drivers from near NCR, cguro nasanay sa counter flow.. same thing with that jeep that was coming back from bicol that had a head on accident with a bus.. nag counter flow din yun.. and now this everest nag counter flow din.. and a few weeks back that Innova that got hit by a train, nasanay cguro din yun sa counter flow.. kasi nung nakita nia ang 2 bus nga naka hinto, overtake agad.. kasi wala kasalubong. too bad the driver didnt know that other vehicles stopped kasi there was a train..

im not sure about the mindset of the drivers that travel to the provinces.. but for me i always think about the trip a few days before i set out.. even taking the time to research the routes.. and this has paid off. because in the last 10 years i have travelled to mindanao by land through bicol, samar and leyte round trip more than 7 times and i thank the Lord for being with us through out trip and for not letting us get involved in an accident..

i just hope those from around NCR dont take for granted travelling in the provinces..

[crazy_boy]

SOP in the Philippines. If you're driving the bigger vehicle in an accident, you're guilty until proven innocent.

Which is why unlicensed motorcycle riders are so brazen... because whatever happens, they're not at fault... according to the law...

this is why i am thinking of investing in On-board cameras. so that everything will be recorded.

[111prez]

2 weeks ago, got involved in an accident with a motorcycle major damage inabot ng oto ko. FYI Kasalanan ng motor, he got injured pa. Hindi na nga ako binayaran, pinagamot ko pa. WTF! diba?

ako naman baliktag ang nangyari

5 years abo i was driving at the fort and on the rightmost lane preparing to make right turn

all of a sudden this idiot motorcycle driver darts out from behind a car to my left

ayun sapul sya sa front left fender ng patrol at tumilapon

i got down, minura ko pa sa kagaguhan nya. hindi naman ng laban ang mokong.

he was a sgt something from pembo/rembo whatever at nag papa sakay ng pasahero dyan sa kanto ng mckinley.

when the accident happened wala naman syang pasahero

maya maya lapit itong enforcer sa fort and after i introduced myself and told him the whole story tinanong if i want to press charges

kinuha ko nalang ang pangalan, address ng gago and i had to leave kasi susunduin ko pa si future mrs at ina nya at that time

anyway, naawa nalang ako sa mama na yan at medyo may tama ang binti ngunit pinagsabihan ko talaga ng buti nga sa iyo

:thatsit:

[gongrhey]

napasarap siguro yung driver ng SUV kasi masarap humataw dyan sa Quirino hi-way papuntang Bicol pero dapat talaga sigurado ka na clear ang daan bago mag-overtake kasi head on talaga aabutin mo pag minalas. marami din kasi sa mga driver hindi kabisado yung daan.

[12vdc]

^Most probably hindi kabisado ang daan.

Sa gabi mas safe umovertake sa blind curve compared sa umaga, patayin molang headlight mo kita mona kaagad kungmay kasalubong. Minsan pagbibigyan kapa ng byaherong bus na inoovertakan mo, gawain din nila yang pagpatay ng headlight to signal if clear.

Sa riles ng tren kung dmo din kabisado mabibigla ka, delapidated narin kasi ang railroad crossing signs.

[kaeru618157]

medyo naawa nga ako sa bus driver. ang sakit din sa dibdib na tamang pagmamaneho ka tapos may babanga sa yo tapos ikukulong ka muna.

[glenn_duke]

Two nights before this accident, another RORO bus on the way to Bicol slammed into a big tree also along Quirino/Andaya Highway. It also happened in the night.
During the night to early morning most portion of the Andaya Higway is covered with fog, maybe this is one reason why the everest driver failed to notice the oncoming RORO from its headlight. Or worst, maybe the RORO bus has busted headlights.

[yebo]

di ba nung panahon ni pandakekak GMA yung mga minions nya mahilig sa counterflow, naka-wang wang pa. malamang mga kampon yan ni gloria. haay salamat nabawasan na naman sila!

wala sala driver ng bus dyan. pag may abogado ang roro labas na din agad yan.