Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS on the street

[Dark Lord]

Pero sir, come to think of it. Yung c5 southbound may motorcycle lane na nasa right side ng highways, laging mabilis ang traffic Dyan. Eto yung after kalayaan elevated uturns. Pinagtataka ko Lang eh bakit Ayaw ng bike riders sa lane na yan. Kung mabagal takbo na stop and go, ok Lang Siguro lumabas ng lanes mga riders. Pero Naman, sisingitan talaga ng cagers, jeeps at trucks yan lalo na pag nangingitlog na bike riders sa cager lanes sa rektahan. Most of the time napapansin ko kaya lumalabas ang isang Naka motorsiklo sa lane eh: MABAGAL ANG NASA UNAHAN NA KOTSE O MOTOR. same is true on the motorcycle lane or any other lanes. Ok siguro kung sa motorbike lanes lang nanatili at any given speed. Kaya nababale wala ang motor lanes. Mahirap Naman Siguro bakuran ang motor lanes, malamang eh magiging potential hazard yan at malamang sa alamang eh Hindi pa rin gagamitin ng riders yan. Kasi Baka mas mabilis sa katabing lane.hehe

Kung parang yellow lane policy, eh ewan ko nalang. Malamang reklamo na cagers.hehe

Sir actually nabanggit niyo yung concerns na dapat followed sa standards, basta dangerous and adds sa danger, wala sa standard yun. Isa na dun, may ibang mc lanes sa ibang bansa, exclusive, wala sisingit na cage, like sa Malaysia well when I was in a taxi sa tollway nila, mismong tollways dun, may mc lane bawal cage, take not libre pa ang toll fee ng mc. Sa Japan, di ko napansin if may MC lane, pero may mg MC sa kalsada, take note di sila binabarubal ng kapwa nagmamaneho ng cage at di nila need makipag gitgitan sa cage. Sa South Koreawhen I was there, almost like Japan, so wala siguro issues between cages and riders magaganda kasi kalsada nila, maluluwag, at may respetohan. Not worth noting sa African continent na nakita ko, maluwag nga ang daan, pero nakakatakot gumala hehe so di ko na napansin if may MC or MC lanes dun. Sa google search din we can affirm that our MC lane is substandard and dangerous. Sa China, well in Beijing dahil yun lang napuntahan ko, malalawak kalsada, may bike lanes, at may bicycle lanes pero like dito, hindi exclusive eh, so gitgitan issue din sila, hehe.[/QUOTE]

[SerialMaus]

Sir, i commend your efforts to discipline your ranks, but may i remind you that we are in a democratic state. Our right to say something does not hinge on the amount of earnings we contribute to society. I may not like what you are saying but I will defend your right to say those things.

The fact remains that most of mc riders do not have manners, violate established rules and act as if they cant go wrong. These cannot just be erased due to some undisciplined cagers. If you want to rant about cagers, then please create a separate thread. This thread is about our rants against mc riders.

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Then reprimand din ALL THOSE TSIKOT FORUMERS here that do not even ride on bikes (not like us that we ride and drive both types) and are belittling the bikers with their comments, name calling, and generalization, stemming from the same taboo idea of EARNINGS. And I am not ranting about cagers because I am also a Cager. I am defending those who are defenseless in this forum. Defending those belittled and name called even if they are responsible bike riders, those that are deprived of their right to be on the road even if they are also Tax PAYERS who contributed to the road construction (some cagers think they own the road not thinking some of those labelled 'low earners' are actually high earners and may have even contributed more to society with their hefty tax contributions, also used in creating the very same road some cage drivers are trying to own for themselves).

[Dark Lord]

Ser, pa explain Naman po ang hazards and dangers ng motorcycle lanes natin dito sa pinas. Para maunawaan natin ng mabuti Kung ano bakit Hindi po Ito nararapat. At para maunawaan din po ng cager na tulad ko ang NASA saloobin ng isa pang bike rider. Pang bundok kasi ang motorcycle skills ko.pang trails at paminsan minsan Lang sa kalye kasabay ng mga motorists.

Sir actually nabanggit niyo yung concerns na dapat followed sa standards, basta dangerous and adds sa danger, wala sa standard yun. Isa na dun, may ibang mc lanes sa ibang bansa, exclusive, wala sisingit na cage, like sa Malaysia well when I was in a taxi sa tollway nila, mismong tollways dun, may mc lane bawal cage, take not libre pa ang toll fee ng mc. Sa Japan, di ko napansin if may MC lane, pero may mga MC sa kalsada, take note di sila binabarubal ng kapwa nagmamaneho ng cage at di nila need makipag gitgitan sa cage. Sa South Korea when I was there, almost like Japan, so wala siguro issues between cages and riders magaganda kasi kalsada nila, maluluwag, at may respetohan. Not worth noting sa African continent na nakita ko, maluwag nga ang daan, pero nakakatakot gumala hehe so di ko na napansin if may MC or MC lanes dun. Sa google search din we can affirm that our MC lane is substandard and dangerous. Sa China, well in Beijing dahil yun lang napuntahan ko, malalawak kalsada, may bike lanes, at may bicycle lanes pero like dito, hindi exclusive eh, so gitgitan issue din sila, hehe. And may family members kami na nakatira na sa US permanently, so I hear different story about MC lanes.[/QUOTE]

[somniantis86]

Then reprimand din ALL THOSE TSIKOT FORUMERS here that do not even ride on bikes (not like us that we ride and drive both types) and are belittling the bikers with their comments, name calling, and generalization, stemming from the same taboo idea of EARNINGS.

Pag sinabing squatter sir, it does not only pertain to income but sa paguugali din. Ugaling iskwater ika nga. Dyan kami galit.

Feel free to create a new thread sir, if you deem it necessary to reprimand us for belittling bikers. Just not in this thread.

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[SerialMaus]

Ganoon pala ang laki ng kita ng ibang cager... Mas dapat mag ingat sila sa kalye... Dapat di mc ang sakyan nila dahil kapag nadisgracia sila zero digit na ang kikitain nila.... Sayang ang buhay nila kung minalas... At mas kamalas malasan baka invalid pa habang buhay at doon mag sisisi.... Hindi naman maramot ang cager... Ayaw lang namin na may kasabay o katabi at may mc sa unahan....Ayaw namin na madamay sa disgrasia nyo... Maraming pwdeng nangyari... Pwdeng dahil sa init nka helmet mahilo... May tumulong pawis sa mata at lumabo na ang paningin... Sumemplang.... Magkaroon ng moisture ang loob ng helmet dahil sa ulan at init ng hininga... Lahat ng yan delikado sa riders... Pag nakataon.... Madidistract na sila...mawawala ang balance... Sasalpok sa ibang sasakyan... Ngayon sino ang magbabayad ngnperwisyo? Ang mga riders ba? Hindi... Kundi ang nadamay na cager...kawawa naman kami nadamay lang... Sa investigation? Aamin ba na lumabo ang helmet ninyo at wala kayong nakita? Syempre hindi... Dahil alam ninyo mostly may insurance ang mga cager..... Kaya dapat magkaroon din ang mga mc ng life and accident insurance... Comprehensive dapat i-require sa inyo.

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Words of a close minded.

1) sa statement mo pinagdadamot mo na agad ang kalsada dahil ayaw mo may motor sa paligid mo
2) sa mga imagined scenarios mo, sure ka? nag-drive ka na ba in full gears on a motorbike? If yes at yan ang na-experience mo, then you need more practice before you ride on a high volume traffic hiway.
3) sa mga imagined scenarios mo, nangyayari din yan sa cages (distraction: cellphone, nag-fog windshield, eyeglasses nalaglag o lumabo, etc.), madalas pa at malamang sa malamang, sobrang lasing pa ang iba na naka racing mode sa loob ng kotse. Think hard.
4) Enthusiast nga eh, at na-addict na sa exhiliration provided by a two wheeler, so kahit malaki na kita at marami na naipundar, sasakay at sasakay yan sa love of their lives. And BOTTOM LINE, it is within our rights to ride our bikes and not our cars/vans if we want to.

[SerialMaus]

Ser, pa explain Naman po ang hazards and dangers ng motorcycle lanes natin dito sa pinas. Para maunawaan natin ng mabuti Kung ano bakit Hindi po Ito nararapat. At para maunawaan din po ng cager na tulad ko ang NASA saloobin ng isa pang bike rider. Pang bundok kasi ang motorcycle skills ko.pang trails at paminsan minsan Lang sa kalye kasabay ng mga motorists.



Sir actually nabanggit niyo yung concerns na dapat followed sa standards, basta dangerous and adds sa danger, wala sa standard yun. Isa na dun, may ibang mc lanes sa ibang bansa, exclusive, wala sisingit na cage, like sa Malaysia well when I was in a taxi sa tollway nila, mismong tollways dun, may mc lane bawal cage, take not libre pa ang toll fee ng mc. Sa Japan, di ko napansin if may MC lane, pero may mga MC sa kalsada, take note di sila binabarubal ng kapwa nagmamaneho ng cage at di nila need makipag gitgitan sa cage. Sa South Korea when I was there, almost like Japan, so wala siguro issues between cages and riders magaganda kasi kalsada nila, maluluwag, at may respetohan. Not worth noting sa African continent na nakita ko, maluwag nga ang daan, pero nakakatakot gumala hehe so di ko na napansin if may MC or MC lanes dun. Sa google search din we can affirm that our MC lane is substandard and dangerous. Sa China, well in Beijing dahil yun lang napuntahan ko, malalawak kalsada, may bike lanes, at may bicycle lanes pero like dito, hindi exclusive eh, so gitgitan issue din sila, hehe. And may family members kami na nakatira na sa US permanently, so I hear different story about MC lanes.

[/QUOTE]

1) Some MC lanes are on the right most lane, together with pedestrians and PUV's using it as 'parking lots' or 'improvised terminal'
- danger, pedestrians suddenly popping out of the side walk
- danger, parked customers from the right side may suddenly back into the lane after their deal with roadside establishments
- danger, PUV's, too much Stop and Go, and sudden swerves done by them
2) Some MC lanes have very poor road conditions, large potholes, open canals right next to it with no grates, too much debris like sand and gravel prone to slides
3) MC lanes are not enforced as exclusive, therefore in normal traffic we still need to dodge cages, and cages in the MC lane also do Stop and Go with sudden stops a bike has less stopping power than a four wheeler. Cages in and beside the MC lane still do swerve, in and out of it, so the danger is still there.
4) Some MC lanes before had barricades, one mistake, can be a fatal mistake
5) MC lane rule on turning, not enough distance is allowed specially on those very wide roads where the lane is on the right most, just imagine the horror of crossing 2-3-4 lanes from the right just to make a left turn, and you need to execute the maneuver in about 200 meters (not sure of exact figure, just imagine) from the targeted corner. This also adds to the danger why MC lane should not be in the right most lane.
6) Previously MC lanes were discriminatory, no MC lanes on bridges, forced bikers to use the more traffic path exposing them to more danger, and what the heck is this idea, it's as if the bikers did not pay taxes for the bridge to be built.

At ang pinakamalupit, mukhang sa buong mundo, mabibilang lang ata sa iisang kamay ang recorded na may MC lanes, at take note, maganda pa implementation nila sa atin.

[SerialMaus]

Pag sinabing squatter sir, it does not only pertain to income but sa paguugali din. Ugaling iskwater ika nga. Dyan kami galit.

Feel free to create a new thread sir, if you deem it necessary to reprimand us for belittling bikers. Just not in this thread.

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Dito sa thread na to nagkabastusan eh, so dito rin sa thread na to sasagot, kaya nga THREAD.

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Question lang... Riders want a international standard motorcycle lane while most roads cannot even reach decent standards for all vehicles?

[SerialMaus]

Question lang... Riders want a international standard motorcycle lane while most roads cannot even reach decent standards for all vehicles?

Yan ang tamang question tsong. Kaya nga nagtataka kami bakit ipinipilit ang MC lane, ni di pa nga malinaw ang standards, at ni hindi pa nga ma-apply ang decent standards on roads for all vehicles. Bottom line 'Tong-Pats' project kasi yan ng MMDA, kikita kasi sila.

So to be civilized, MRO stands for sige na wag na alisin ang MC lane, pero ayusin ang implementation. If di maayos, wag na lang maglagay niyan.

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I don't think na para sa mga tulad mo yung motorcycle lane. We here are ranting to the 90% (more or less) of riders na porke marunong magbike, marunong na mag motor. Walang disciplina, gusto lagi sila bida sa kalye, kung makatakas sa banga... Tatakas.

The lane is used para may uniformity of motorcycle Lalo na yung riding in tandem (dapat ilayo sa pedestrian para hindi makabiktima) . Marami singit singit tapos dadahilan na rubbing lang kung tamaan side mirror. Dati nabasagan na ko ng side mirror sa traffic (hindi ko na kwento at baka Lalo lang kayo maginit).

As you might see, we are speaking of experience na garapal na talaga yung iba mag motor. It is hard not to generalize all underbone riders dahil majority of the time sila ang nagcacause ng accident and at the end Tatakas sa responsibilidad.

[renzo_d10]

Honestly mas favorable sakin at sa mga nagmomotor magkaron ng sariling motorcycle lane na para sa mga motor lang talaga. At least sa area natin wala na tayo kelangan isipin na pasaway na nagmomotor kasi nakahiwalay na sila.

Kahit di ako nagmomotor obvious naman na hazardous yung lugar ng motorcycle lane. Lagay ba naman sa gitna eh. Tsaka sana talaga iimplement mga batas. At ayusin pagdistribute ng lisensya, para mga nararapat lang talaga.

Problema din kasi dito sa Pinas, karamihan ng mga nagmamaneho, ang ikli ng pasensya. Kaya mga motor na iba jan, maski sidewalk, dinadaanan.

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[Dark Lord]

Doesn't look so bad to me especially numbers 1, 2 and 3. Cagers deal with those everytime. Edsa, as far as I can remember, is on the left side before the innermost lane. Yung c5 Naman is on the right side before outermost lane. I agree on the stopping power of a 2 wheeler. Pero, that is one ofthe reasons why riders should be "alalay" on their speed para Naman kelangan mag apply ng preno imbes na habulin at mag swerve (yes, dodge, I mean). Eto madalas nakaka aksidente. Di hamak mas madali kumabig ang motor kaya mas defensive dapat mga cagers sa kanila.

I believe mas better yung mc lane sa c5 Kesa edsa if it's really a hassle for riders to negotiate the turns due to short distances, pang uturns Lang Naman talaga yun left turns. Unlike mga right turns. Like on c5 after kalayaan, Hindi Naman karamihan mga u turn slots. Sa edsa naman kulang sa u turn slots para left lanes ng mc. baligtad mundo ata ng mmda. Anyway, salamat ser serialmaus.1) Some MC lanes are on the right most lane, together with pedestrians and PUV's using it as 'parking lots' or 'improvised terminal'
- danger, pedestrians suddenly popping out of the side walk
- danger, parked customers from the right side may suddenly back into the lane after their deal with roadside establishments
- danger, PUV's, too much Stop and Go, and sudden swerves done by them
2) Some MC lanes have very poor road conditions, large potholes, open canals right next to it with no grates, too much debris like sand and gravel prone to slides
3) MC lanes are not enforced as exclusive, therefore in normal traffic we still need to dodge cages, and cages in the MC lane also do Stop and Go with sudden stops a bike has less stopping power than a four wheeler. Cages in and beside the MC lane still do swerve, in and out of it, so the danger is still there.
4) Some MC lanes before had barricades, one mistake, can be a fatal mistake
5) MC lane rule on turning, not enough distance is allowed specially on those very wide roads where the lane is on the right most, just imagine the horror of crossing 2-3-4 lanes from the right just to make a left turn, and you need to execute the maneuver in about 200 meters (not sure of exact figure, just imagine) from the targeted corner. This also adds to the danger why MC lane should not be in the right most lane.
6) Previously MC lanes were discriminatory, no MC lanes on bridges, forced bikers to use the more traffic path exposing them to more danger, and what the heck is this idea, it's as if the bikers did not pay taxes for the bridge to be built.

At ang pinakamalupit, mukhang sa buong mundo, mabibilang lang ata sa iisang kamay ang recorded na may MC lanes, at take note, maganda pa implementation nila sa atin.[/QUOTE]

[vinj]

Again I repeat myself, check the specs that a motorcycle lane should have to be within the safety standards compare it to international standards (visit other countries muna para maliwanagan ka), then check our mc lanes here. Most notable yung lanes na nilagay sa right most lane where maraming pedestrian, maraming stop-go PUVs na nananagasa pa, at inaatrasan pa rider para sure double dead ka. It's a good idea to have mc lanes, but must follow specs, must be safe. Yung iba may barricade pa, na kapag nagkamali ka masasagi mo, at kapag nasagi mo swerte mo na gasgas lang sa balat makukuha mo, malamang sa malamang may bali ka o madalas dead ka.

In general, speaking for our roads, it's not up to "international standards" even for cars and large vehicles. You have inadequate/wrong signages, ill-planned U-turn slots, no road markings, poor lighting, etc. What is the gist then? Drivers are forced to be more cautious on the road, especially when one is not familiar with the area (just like in the days when the MMDA started putting up ill-spec barriers and fences with no warning signs or inadequate visibility if there were any). Tests in the western hemisphere usually showed that motorcycle riders are even more attentive as car drivers since thee training to properly and safely operate a motorbike needs 8/10s of one's attention versus a car where there is more margin for error and people even drive at 3/10s attention (i.e. texting while driving). Kaso lang, what happens here is that a lot of the motorcycle riders are more inattentive

By the way, (just to get this off my back), just because one does not ride a bike it doesn't mean that he does not understand how it is or "di ka kasi cager kaya hindi nyo alam". I don''t ride but what is my ethos to motorbike riders (and most sane vehicles on the road)? I've learned to give way and drive defensively because logic is to avoid any untoward incident with no regard to who is at fault. When i see a rider properly going about in traffic or on the open road, all the more mas masarap pag-bigyan. Minsan lang, talagang nakakapuno na because i find myself often slowing down or avoiding bikes who think they're so good at slicing through traffic but in reality, the cars are really avoiding them to avert any accident because we all know who will be at the losing end in most cases.

Anyway, it's good to see nice and constructive posts here.

[Manilablock]

Dito sa thread na to nagkabastusan eh, so dito rin sa thread na to sasagot, kaya nga THREAD.

hindi po kabastusan ang pag-share ng mga aming personal experience with motorcycle drivers in Philippine road.

noon sa mga jeepney at bus drivers ako inis pag nakakasabay ko sa daan, dahil nga sa walang disiplina kung saan magbaba at magsasakay.

pero sa opinion ko, sa napakaikling panahon ung mga motorcycle drivers na ang napunta sa top reckless drivers sa Metro Manila.

ang kabastusan po ay ang kawalan ng respeto sa kapwa driver, at kahit alam ng mali (or nabasa na po sa mga previous post ang maling gawain ng ibang motorcycle driver) ay gagawin pa din.

kaya nga po hindi nakakapagtaka na daily ay meron post ng mga kabastusan ng motorcycle drivers.

[rensom]

Words of a close minded.

1) sa statement mo pinagdadamot mo na agad ang kalsada dahil ayaw mo may motor sa paligid mo

--- Hindi pinagdadamot ang kalsada kundi iwas disgrasia... Witness ako sa nangyari sa isang rider na nabuwal sa katabing cager? ano Makita ko? kamot ulo

2) sa mga imagined scenarios mo, sure ka? nag-drive ka na ba in full gears on a motorbike? If yes at yan ang na-experience mo, then you need more practice before you ride on a high volume traffic hiway.

-- Hindi dahil never akong sasakay sa mc. Hindi imagined scenarios yun kundi yun ang sinasabi skin ng mga kilala Kong rider.

3) sa mga imagined scenarios mo, nangyayari din yan sa cages (distraction: cellphone, nag-fog windshield, eyeglasses nalaglag o lumabo, etc.), mataas pa at malamang sa malamang, sobrang lasing pa ang iba na naka racing mode sa loob ng kotse. Think hard.

-- celpon.. fog windshield normal nangyayari .. pero kahit bitawan namin ang monobela kpag red light pra punasan ang windshield ok lng... Kahit papaano safety Kami.. lasing? Iilan Lang ang mga gagong cager na ganoon.

4) Enthusiast nga eh, at na-addict na sa exhiliration provided by a two wheeler, so kahit malaki na kita at marami na naipundar, sasakay at sasakay yan sa love of their lives.

Ok lang.... Yun ang gusto ninyo kaya lang Huwag ng makadamay pa ng iba kpag nadisgrasia. Ask ko lang kung agree ka ba sa lahat ng rider dapat compulsory requirement ang accident and life insurance?

AAnd BOTTOM LINE, it is within our rights to ride our bikes and not our cars/vans if we want to.

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[xagent_orangex]

"too much motorcycles on the street"

2005 nagsimula itong thread, you will notice na the threadstarter is simply complaining about this mode of transportation which hinders him from overtaking comfortably. Then followed by some posts which says "another MC hate thread..." and so on.

Now, para naman hindi masyadong off-topic, bakit nga ba madaming MC sa daan? I owned one before (not the expensive one), college days, makasabay lang sa uso ika nga.

Eto nakita kong dahilan kung bakit madami, at patuloy na dumadami, ang mga motor sa kalye (i am talking about those scooters/150cc below-wanna-be-250cc above-MC, so if you own a big bike per se, i think you don't have the right to react on my post...capiche?) :

1. Mura. ilang libo lang e makakapag-labas ka na. (may libreng helmet na china at jacket pa)
2. Easy to learn how-to. halos lahat naman yata tayo dumaan sa pagbibisikleta (I'm talking about balancing, not the technical thing ok?)
3. Tipid sa gas. tipid naman talaga lalo na para sa mga taong gumagamit nito araw-araw papasok at pauwi ng trabaho at nakikipagbuno sa traffic.
4. Parking. kahit saan pwede basta kasya.
5. Iwas traffic. kahit buhol-buhol na ang traffic e pwedeng isingit.


Hindi naman pwedeng advantages lang diba? the same number as the enlisted points above, here are the disadvantages:
(again, maliliit na motor ok?)

1. Mura nga, sure, kaya nga pati yung mga walang disiplina e nakakakuha. kahit mga taga-squatter at oo, pati ugaling squatter, e kayang bumili.
2. same as no. 1, madaling matutunan, kahit walang license basta marunong sumakay at magpatakbo ng motor ok na.
3. tipid sa gas, yung matitipid nyo dito ilaan sa insurance saka sa kabaong.
4. hindi mahirap maghanap ng parking. so kahit sa bangketa na para sa tao e pwede. sa mall uunahan ka pa sa pila sa cashier sa parking building.
5. iwas traffic pero nakaka-perwisyo kakasingit. kahit sa kanan mo at nasa outer lane kana e sisingit pa.

well, obviously against ako sa mga naka-motor. again, ang pinapatamaan ko e yung mga maliliit na motor na feeling racer at maingay ang mga tambutso pero mabagal naman at walang disiplina. wala akong pakialam kung member ka pa ng achuchu riders club chorva na yan at maganda ang reputasyon. wala sa club yan, nasa individual yan ok?

wala na ngang disiplina at lisensya, kapag naaksidente at sila ang agrabyado e ikaw pa ang may sala.

to be fair, lahat tayo may karapatan sa kalsada. kotse, bus, truck, jeep, at motor. yun nga lang yung iba talaga kulang sa disiplina. hindi porke madami kayong nakamotor e mas may lamang at may yabang kayo sa kalye. mali po.

[Manilablock]

kanina sa intersection ng NAIA Road at Domestic Road sa Pasay (stoplight, at yan ung intersection na nilagyan ng MMDA ng garden sa gitna ng intersection, maliit na rotoda na walang silbi).

4 lanes po ang NAIA Road at ako ay nasa right side kasi going straight ako to Imelda Ave (papunta Sucat).

Meron ako katabing motorcycle sa right side ko, ok naman kasi nag-aantay din sha na magpalit ung kulay ng traffic light from RED to GREEN.

nag mag green na, andar na kami aba bigla ba naman kumabig sa harapan ko at kakaliwa pala sha papunta ng domestic road, kung sinagad ko ang acceleration malamang nabanga ko sha or worse kunin na sha ni :diablo:

[Manilablock]

At tanda ko nga pa ala may nag-post regarding sa motorbike riders na mukhang unggoy daw sa kaka-signal gamit paa at kamay.
Baka naman kasi part sila ng bike ride group at the time, may signals talaga sila sa bawat member ng group ride for safety ng buong group yun. And we use this in our group rides.

2 hand signal lang ang alam ng karamihan na nag mo-motor

1. Kamot ulo pag nakabanga
2. middle finger

[Dark Lord]

bad trip din yung malakas at dikit makatutok.gawa nga ng madali kabigin ang motor eh akala Hindi sasalpok. Pag natumbok ka sa likoran mo kakamutan ka Lang. Rubbing rubbing. Nabasagan na ko ng tail light minsan gawa ng walang modong rider. Eto mga walang habas sa pagsingit singit. Nakakita na rin ako ng isa parehas na nabasagan ng tail light. Parehas Lang kami ng sinapit: kamot ulo.

Yung dating balita nga, may isang cager, binangga ng rider sa likod. Patay yung rider, kulong si cager. Kesyo aksidente daw at may patay eh homicide. Ayos! Hustisya! Abala na, perwisyo pa! Mas ok talaga mandatory comprehensive insurance sa lahat. Yung madadalas involved sa aksidente eh mataas na insurance premium babayaran.

In general, speaking for our roads, it's not up to "international standards" even for cars and large vehicles. You have inadequate/wrong signages, ill-planned U-turn slots, no road markings, poor lighting, etc. What is the gist then? Drivers are forced to be more cautious on the road, especially when one is not familiar with the area (just like in the days when the MMDA started putting up ill-spec barriers and fences with no warning signs or inadequate visibility if there were any). Tests in the western hemisphere usually showed that motorcycle riders are even more attentive as car drivers since thee training to properly and safely operate a motorbike needs 8/10s of one's attention versus a car where there is more margin for error and people even drive at 3/10s attention (i.e. texting while driving). Kaso lang, what happens here is that a lot of the motorcycle riders are more inattentive

By the way, (just to get this off my back), just because one does not ride a bike it doesn't mean that he does not understand how it is or "di ka kasi cager kaya hindi nyo alam". I don''t ride but what is my ethos to motorbike riders (and most sane vehicles on the road)? I've learned to give way and drive defensively because logic is to avoid any untoward incident with no regard to who is at fault. When i see a rider properly going about in traffic or on the open road, all the more mas masarap pag-bigyan. Minsan lang, talagang nakakapuno na because i find myself often slowing down or avoiding bikes who think they're so good at slicing through traffic but in reality, the cars are really avoiding them to avert any accident because we all know who will be at the losing end in most cases.

Anyway, it's good to see nice and constructive posts here.

[smarxist]

Nakakainis palagi. Magaling makatutok. Pati mga traysikol.