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    #161
    am also not a lawyer, pero sa tingin ko pag nasa police pa lang ata yung kaso, at hindi pa naisasampa sa fiscal, kaya pwede pa nilang areglohin yun para hindi na maisampa ng pulis yung kaso.

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    #162
    Quote Originally Posted by dyerbz
    natignan nyo na po ba yung photo ng enforcer na binanggit ko? wala kasi sa philstar.online kaya di ko mapost. i find it hard to believe a single person could have inflicted so much damage in so little time, so i still find it hard to buy the self-defense theory. and kahit ano bang yabang niya, kelangan bang gulpihin ng ganon? (ok, ok, mey mga maaangas nga na ang sarap kutusin minsan! hehe!)
    bigla ko naisip, philippine star subscriber nga pala ako, hawak ko ngayon yung may 2 issue nito at based sa picture na nakikita ko eh hindi naman nakainflict ng "so much damage in so little time" as you are saying. ito ay opinion ko lamang. il scan the picture and will post it asap for the sake of our fellow tsikoteers.

    P.S. based sa nakita ko sa picture, parang isang suntok lang sa mata kaya nagka-black eye yung traffic enforcer. although im not privy to what really happened that day, hindi naman siguro GULPI tawag dun. baka pwedeng "SUNTOK" lang.

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    #163
    It does look like multiple blows. Nakapikit yun left eye and a few bruises sa ibang parts. I can't remember it now but if he was in civilian clothing, justifiable yun pag suntok sa kanya, as well as the group ganging up on him, especially if he didn't show any identification, which is the SOP if you weren't in a uniform.

    Rude, in plain civilian clothes, and potentially gun wielding, what would you have done? I would have thrown the first punch. That was a plain self-defense in my book, even though it was 6 against 1. E kung sumigaw ng hold up yun mga yun, baka kuyog ang inabot nun cop.

    Pero what the group did to the reporters, or the way they behaved after the incident is another matter. Way out of line, IMO.

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    #164
    here is the scanned picture of the traffic enforcer.. sa wakas, makikita na din ng lahat ng tsikoteers!

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    #165
    Quote Originally Posted by eclipseds
    It does look like multiple blows. Nakapikit yun left eye and a few bruises sa ibang parts.
    multiple blows? 2 maybe.. or 3 blows.. based lang naman po yun sa pagtingin ko sa picture.. nakikita ko lang sa picture is a guy in civilian clothes with his hair all messed up, his clothes in disarray, a med patch on his left temple and a black eye. my point is hindi naman siguro bugbog at pinagtulungan ng 6 na tao tawag dun.

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    #166
    More than 1 blow = multiple blows po The cut on his temple, his closed eyes, and the little wound below his eye couldn't have been caused by a single blow. That would be one massive fist, if it was.

    Whether bugbog tawag mo dun, or not, or if it was inflicted by a single person or all of them, his/their action could be justifiable. They were probably thinking that their lives were in danger, which caused them to react that way. I don't see anything wrong with that and I prolly would have done the same. Like I said in the quoted post, I would have thrown the first punch if I were in their shoe, given the same scenario.

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    #167
    Sapat na yan para sabihin nating nabugbog nga. Unless lang ala Manny yung anim, gulpi sarado na ang kalalagyan nung traffic enforcer.

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    #168
    Quote Originally Posted by eclipseds
    More than 1 blow = multiple blows po The cut on his temple, his closed eyes, and the little wound below his eye couldn't have been caused by a single blow. That would be one massive fist, if it was.

    Whether bugbog tawag mo dun, or not, or if it was inflicted by a single person or all of them, his/their action could be justifiable. They were probably thinking that their lives were in danger, which caused them to react that way. I don't see anything wrong with that and I prolly would have done the same. Like I said in the quoted post, I would have thrown the first punch if I were in their shoe, given the same scenario.
    opo, agree tayo doon bro. multiple blows nga.. as i've said 2 or 3 blows siguro (the little wound below his eye and his closed eyes could've been caused by a single punch IMO; the other blow goes to his left temple) if u'l read my earlier post, nipopoint out ko lang na contrary to what dyerbz said, hindi naman yata gulpi tawag dun and hindi yata ganun kagrabe like what he is trying to project. of course this is only my opinion.

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    #169
    Quote Originally Posted by eclipseds
    Whether bugbog tawag mo dun, or not, or if it was inflicted by a single person or all of them, his/their action could be justifiable. They were probably thinking that their lives were in danger, which caused them to react that way. I don't see anything wrong with that and I prolly would have done the same. Like I said in the quoted post, I would have thrown the first punch if I were in their shoe, given the same scenario.
    Not always mate. Back in 2nd yr. HS, I was almost beaten just like that by a depressed maniac (who was twice my size), only because I replied to his swearing with wisecracks (babaw noh, but this is highschool, learned that the hard way). I never fought back, I let him punch my side multiple times (which bruised and hurt for a few days) in front of many witnesses. I got cleared * the guidance completely because of witness accounts of my apparent helplessness.

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    #170
    Whew init dito. Dapat ba ay naka-uniform sya o hindi? :bwahaha:

    IMHO, tama lang to punch someone if he reaches behind his back for a probable gun. That's the best thing to do when you're face to face, get closer and try to disarm your opponent.

    Kaso, IMHO uli, with no disrespect to sir odell, mga i-spoiled pa rin mga yan. If you don't want your pix taken, tumalikod ka.

    Sir Boeing, kung tumawag lang sila ng tutang pulis bago siya nag-reach behind his back, e di ala ng bugbugan. Enforcer lang naman yan e, marinig nyang may tinatawag kang pulis e mamumutla na yan. Peaceful means muna.

    Nawa'y lumaganap ang Kapayapaan! - pretty good Tagalog for an Intsik, eh?

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    #171
    cooldude,
    gusto mo rumesbak?. message mo ako... setup ko appointment niyo..hehehehehe

    dyerbz,
    umm... single person talaga.. parang goliath ang dating e.hehe.. basta pag makita niyo.. mapapaniwala kayong single person lang

    tama na racism... hhehehe.. opinions lang naman ng bawat isa to...

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    #172
    oo nga tama na mga racism remarks


    teka na-kungfu ba talaga 'to?


    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/attac...achmentid=4165





    hehehe j/k lang po.

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    #173
    mga dude, di basta-basta nagkakamaga at sugat ang mukha ng isang tao unless multiple blows yung na deliver ng kalaban. (unless si paquiao ang sumapak sa 'yo!) kapag nanood kayo ng boxing o URC, di ba pagkalipas lang ng ilang rounds at suntok mo makikita ang visible damage sa mukha ng boxer? habang tinititigan ko yung photo (good work allen!), mas naco-convince ako na sustained physical attack yung nangyari.

    kung self defense ang dahilan, tama na siguro nakita nyong di na threat yung taong kinatatakutan mo, ba't kelangan mo pang ituloy yung assualt? obviously dala ng init ng ulo yung pambubugbog nila sa enforcer.

    sa lahat, meron po bang update sa kasong 'to? nailigtas na nga ba ni daddy sinai jr. and co. sa kulungan?

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    #174
    hindi kaya yung traffic enforcer ang naka percieve ng threat? Hindi ka ba mapapabunot ng balisong kapag napapaligiran ka na ng 6 na matitikas na kalalakihan? Right now its the word of the 6 tsinoys against the traffic enforcer.

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    #175
    Quote Originally Posted by laklak
    hindi kaya yung traffic enforcer ang naka percieve ng threat? Hindi ka ba mapapabunot ng balisong kapag napapaligiran ka na ng 6 na matitikas na kalalakihan? Right now its the word of the 6 tsinoys against the traffic enforcer.
    IMO, mas gugustuhin ko nang napapalibutan ako ng 6 na lalake in a heated argument than be against a single person reaching for SOMETHING in his back sa mga movies nga mapansin lang ng isang arresting officer na may sinusubukan kunin ang isang suspect sa pocket nya pwede na siyang barilin e! pano pa kaya isang "officer" na reaching for something in his back against civilians? mas nakakatakot yun.

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    #176
    I think the traffic enforcer has to explain what he was doing with a balisong.

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    #177
    wala naman nangyari na. areglo na lang both parties.

    dyrbz,
    kahit isang sapak lang.. patagal bago mamaga yan.. inde naman automatic na lalabas yan e.hehehehe..

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    #178
    oh well, money talks. hope all parties learned a lesson.

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    #179
    magkano kaya naging bayad sa pambubugbog sa traffic enforcer? nasulit kaya sakit ng katawan nya?

    ang masama nito, bayad na, rumesbak pa!

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    #180
    ganyan talaga mga pulis. naareglo mo na other party, pero makekelam pa din yan. happened to me once. abogado na nga nakipag-usap sa kaso ko noon at naayos na pero hihirit pa yan mga yan. para sa kin dapat lang talaga nabugbog sya.

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