PNP: Olongapo transgender killed by a US Marine

[yobma]

A little o.t. here...

A good point of view here would be the life testimony of anthony roquero... popularly known as tonet macho of the famous 80's show iskul bukol. He was the gay character on the show. Just google his name.

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[jut703]

Parehas lang day. Ilan ba ang kaibigan mong bading?

Isa ang parating bukam bibig ng mga kaibigan kong bading... "Akoy isang babae trapped in a mans body." Tangap nila kung ano sila. Yang mga binangit mo ay tulad dun sa video na nai post ko, may deperensya sa utak yang mga yan.

Bakla yan di yan she, "dyesebel" pwede pa. Transgender claims that they are "she" even before going through SRS and court. Sila ay bakla na may sayad sa utak.

Golly PC police really ruined this world. Now a gay believing that they are a girl instead of making tambay in the gay bar will now make tambay in a kabaret para makipag tsuktsak chenes sa mga boys na akala ay girl sila.

Dangerous game and one end up dead.

One of my best friends since high school is gay. I've seen him through his transformation from being a guy, turning effeminate, denial, and finally accepting and learning to be proud of his ***uality.

More than half of my badminton group is gay. There are also 2 transgenders.

Saying that transgenders are mentally compromised makes you sound like an old-school, middle-aged man who refuses to accept the changing views towards the LGBT community, still preferring to just box all non-straight people as gay, all one and the same. Sounds like the 1970s all over again.

Too bad this new world is "ruined" to you. I don't see society going back to its intolerant ways though, so I guess you'll just have to live with it.



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[ClaNker]

One of my best friends since high school is gay. I've seen him through his transformation from being a guy, turning effeminate, denial, and finally accepting and learning to be proud of his ***uality.

More than half of my badminton group is gay. There are also 2 transgenders.

Saying that transgenders are mentally compromised makes you sound like an old-school, middle-aged man who refuses to accept the changing views towards the LGBT community, still preferring to just box all non-straight people as gay, all one and the same. Sounds like the 1970s all over again.

Too bad this new world is "ruined" to you. I don't see society going back to its intolerant ways though, so I guess you'll just have to live with it.

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Bolded section... A dead giveaway.

Ang bakla ay bakla, lalake yan na may pusong babae. Ang transgender ay babae sa PC world, anyone who believe that a human being born as a man is a girl needs to get their head checked. Di porket cross-dresser (Transgender) ka eh babae kana.

You see PC world do not tolerate those who do not share their view. Oh by the way since you embrace the transgender world, you need to address them as a girl. Saw the video I posted? That's how you do it.

Again... Pag bakla ka eh sabihin mong bakla ka hindi ka babae day, kahit anong damit ng babae ang suotin mo abay bakla kaparin, kahit isa ka ng tran***ual abay bakla kaparin. Now pag pumatol pa rin sayo abay winner ka day. Wag kang mag kunwari be proud of who you are.

[cast_no_shadow]

Naging national issue na ito, dahil ba kano ang involved?

Araw araw may napapatay sa bansa natin.

Kung ordinaryong pinoy ang pumatay dito malamang pang cheap-ass tabloid lang na kuwento ito at ang sisisihin pa ng madla eh si bading.


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[_Cathy_]

What bothers me is the thought that since transgenders feel that they are really women, after they complete their transformation (breasts and vagina), do they still disclose their past to their partners?

Having vagina implants or whatever you call it is high maintenance because it does not naturally produce fluids so it has to be lubricated as maintenance. The ***ual sensation is reduced too. So when a man chooses to transform as a woman, it is a huge sacrifice too.

I read of a case several years ago about a couple with difficulty having a child. It turned out that the wife was actually a transgender and he was faking his periods. It was a very elaborate deception. The man immediately filed for divorce plus a case against the "wife". That is just pure selfishness, bordering evil. Can you just imagine the psychological trauma that did for a straight man?!?!

Bakit parating sarili na lang nila iniisip nila? What they think, How they feel, What the world thinks, How the world should call them, How the world should act around them. It is so hard to be "normal" nowadays. It's like walking on eggshells around SOME people with traits that are commonly prejudiced or stereotyped.

I don't know how it feels like to have gender issues, I am sure it is difficult, but just because you are born with a disadvantage or problem does not mean that the rest of the "normal" world has to adjust. I am not rude a person and the last thing I want to do is to offend people but like I said I call a spade a spade. I say gay and not tran***ual/transgender, overweight and not plus size, short and not vertically challenged, black and not person of color. I don't name call or use offensive terms but PC terms are just ridiculous.

[chua_riwap]

Transgender, tran***ual, gay. Tanong nyo sa common tao kung ano yun.

Sagot nila? Bakla, bading, jokla......

[chua_riwap]

Si VP nognog dumalaw sa burol ni laude......

[cast_no_shadow]

Si VP nognog dumalaw sa burol ni laude......

Other peoples misfortune is an opportunity for noggy! Time to shine!


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[falken]

Si VP nognog dumalaw sa burol ni laude......

I'm not surprised. Kailangan niyang magpapogi sa masa. Sana wala nang tangang maniwala sa kanya.

[shadow]

It's very simple to me, a man who acts, dress, thinks, feels like he is a woman is a gay.

Gay, transgender, trans***ual are one and the same.

I share cathy's view, bakit kailnagan lagi "normal" society ang mag adjust sa kanila? Like sa Restrooms, I'm uncomfortable around inside public restroom. If I enter and see a group of trannies inside, lumalabas na lang ako. Does it make me homophobe? I don't think so, did i feel i disrespected them by walking out. No! Kung sila ma feel nila discriminated sila, problema nila yun.

As I've said if they are so big with their rights we "normal" also has rights to be uncomfortable around them and has the rights to say so and not taken against us.

Another thing, I think I've discussed this before. I don't know how a straight person will have a gay friends. I don't think you have something in common to be buddy-buddy with them.

When i say friend, I meant barkada.


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[jut703]

Bolded section... A dead giveaway.

Ang bakla ay bakla, lalake yan na may pusong babae. Ang transgender ay babae sa PC world, anyone who believe that a human being born as a man is a girl needs to get their head checked. Di porket cross-dresser (Transgender) ka eh babae kana.

You see PC world do not tolerate those who do not share their view. Oh by the way since you embrace the transgender world, you need to address them as a girl. Saw the video I posted? That's how you do it.

Again... Pag bakla ka eh sabihin mong bakla ka hindi ka babae day, kahit anong damit ng babae ang suotin mo abay bakla kaparin, kahit isa ka ng tran***ual abay bakla kaparin. Now pag pumatol pa rin sayo abay winner ka day. Wag kang mag kunwari be proud of who you are.

Dead give-away to what? I make the assumption because most educated young people I know have moved from an all-in-one labeling of non-straight people as just being simply gay. They recognize that being gay is a ***ual orientation (i.e. Guys who like guys) while being a transgender is more of an identity (I feel that I'm a girl).

I understand that a lot of people, and majority of Filipinos, as well as apparently majority of Tsikoteers, still think that all gays are one and the same and are just in different levels of "gayness" with the more extreme ones also wishing to change their physiology to become female.

However, a lot of my gay friends actually have no intentions of becoming female. So no, "girl trapped in a man's body" isn't something that all gays feel. That's such a teleserye stereotype. A lot of them are effeminate, but that's not the same thing as having an innate feeling that they are women. At the end of the day they still accept that they're biological males who happen to be attracted to other males.

Regarding your video, I think that the way the parents and doctors of Josie treated her was very appropriate and respectful of her convictions, but at the same time still showing responsibility to guide her with the mature and life-changing decisions she has to make. If you would notice, the entire 22-minute video put absolutely no focus on her ***ual orientation but more on her gender identity, because that's entirely the point of being transgender.

Again, my simple point is - kung bakla ka, sabihin mong bakla ka. Kung transgender ka, hindi ka necessarily bakla, transgender ka. There's a difference and transgender isn't just entirely a subset of gay.





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[yebo]

Another thing, I think I've discussed this before. I don't know how a straight person will have a gay friends. I don't think you have something in common to be buddy-buddy with them.

When i say friend, I meant barkada.


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pwede naman shadow, like kung classmate mo from kinder to high school tapos after college nagkita kayo ulit at gay na siya. meron 2 sa batch namin na ganun. wala naman problema kahit sa pinaka-macho na batchmate.

[jut703]

The argument of disclosure of being a transgender is a different point altogether.

Most transgenders (especially in cultures where it's not even an accepted reality, such as the Philippines) are wary of disclosing their true identity because of fear of ostracism and judgment.

Try putting yourselves in their shoes. Say, you're a transgender and a homo***ual - you dress, act, and look like a girl and you're attracted to guys. There's this guy who starts to like you and you get close.

At this point, I personally feel that if I were the transgender, I would have to disclose it to him in order to prevent continuing the relationship through deception. However, on the flipside, it is also possible that the transgender will not tell the truth for fear of losing the guy who won't accept her for who she really is. I think it's a cowardly and selfish thing to do, but many will do it because they fear that they'll never find someone who'll accept them if they don't. That's just the reality of it.

I understand how one can judge transgenders for that, because it's a selfish act regardless of their gender.


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[jut703]

Another thing, I think I've discussed this before. I don't know how a straight person will have a gay friends. I don't think you have something in common to be buddy-buddy with them.

When i say friend, I meant barkada.

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Bakit naman? Like I said in a previous post, one of my closest kabarkadas since high school is gay.

Does that mean we have nothing in common? We went through the same gruelling high school classes with the same teachers, went to the same prom, the same road trips, the same inuman nights, and the same experiences that we shared with the rest of the barkada (all of which are straight men and women btw).

An additional hobby in common for me and this friend of mine is badminton, so we often play on our free time and grab a quick meal after.

I don't think my relationship with him is any less deep than my relationship with any of my other kabarkadas who are straight, whether guy or girl.


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[jut703]

I don't know how it feels like to have gender issues, I am sure it is difficult, but just because you are born with a disadvantage or problem does not mean that the rest of the "normal" world has to adjust. I am not rude a person and the last thing I want to do is to offend people but like I said I call a spade a spade. I say gay and not tran***ual/transgender, overweight and not plus size, short and not vertically challenged, black and not person of color. I don't name call or use offensive terms but PC terms are just ridiculous.

Overweight and plus sized mean the same. Short and vertically challenged mean the same. These are euphemisms.

Black and person of color are not the same. A person of color can be black, but he can also be hispanic, asian, and whatever non-caucasian race. The word person of color is very white-centric. I don't live in a multi-ethnic society but I would assume that a black guy would prefer to be called black. There's nothing wrong with the term, it only becomes offensive when you attach negative connotations to the person on the basis of his ethnicity.

Gay and transgender are also not the same. You can be gay but not transgender, you can be transgender but not gay, and you can be transgender and gay. It just so happens that most transgenders are also gay but those are two different things. Gay = i like men, transgender = i feel like I'm not a guy even if I have a penis.



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[jut703]

Transgender, tran***ual, gay. Tanong nyo sa common tao kung ano yun.

Sagot nila? Bakla, bading, jokla......

Precisely because LGBT awareness is still very low in our country.

College na ko when I learned the differences between gays and transgenders. Ang turo kasi sakin nung bata ako, pag lalaking parang babae umasta, bakla yan. Obviously hanggang ngayon marami pa rin na ganyan na yung nakasanayang definition, dito palang sa forum.

But among my generation today it's no longer this simple and lot of us are already open to the changing paradigm. I understand though that it's still not a widely accepted ideology.

Maybe in 10-20 years. We'll see.


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[Ry_Tower]

I have gay friends (5) since HS pa mga yan kasi yung iba elementary days pa. Pero like shadow, hindi din mga kabarkada, more on my wife being close with them kaya nadamay na din ako. 2 dun talagang may BF, pero yung 3 yung tipong nag-asawa at nagkaanak at na-supress nila urge na humanap nang lalaki. Pero obvious naman na may paghanga pa din sila sa lalaki.

I also believe na dapat sila irespeto pero hindi sa punto na special treatment sila na parang gusto ipalabas nang ibang gay like Boy Abunda. I don't think the majority of people should bend to the whim of a minority. Tama na yung walang gender discrimination pero yung parang special treatment and understanding na gusto nang ibang gay, nope, won't stand for it. Kung kaya nang iba magpaka-disente, bakit yung iba weird.

[jut703]

I share cathy's view, bakit kailnagan lagi "normal" society ang mag adjust sa kanila? Like sa Restrooms, I'm uncomfortable around inside public restroom. If I enter and see a group of trannies inside, lumalabas na lang ako. Does it make me homophobe? I don't think so, did i feel i disrespected them by walking out. No! Kung sila ma feel nila discriminated sila, problema nila yun.

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What most decent LGBT orgs push for is equality lang naman. Not to be treated special, just not to be treated any different from straight people.

For example, you feel uncomfortable being in the bathroom with gays or trans***uals. That alone doesn't make you a homophobe. It depends on your reasons.

I've had experiences wherein someone tried to flirt with me and was looking at my junk while I was taking a piss and that made me uncomfortable. It's that action that makes me uncomfortable, not just because they're gay/tranny, because I've also had many instances wherein tranny yung katabi ko pero kebs lang kami sa isa't isa and wala naman problema.



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[jut703]

I also believe na dapat sila irespeto pero hindi sa punto na special treatment sila na parang gusto ipalabas nang ibang gay like Boy Abunda. I don't think the majority of people should bend to the whim of a minority. Tama na yung walang gender discrimination pero yung parang special treatment and understanding na gusto nang ibang gay, nope, won't stand for it. Kung kaya nang iba magpaka-disente, bakit yung iba weird.

Same here bro. I think that it's just right to treat them equally, but not give them special treatment. Kaso, just like in feminism, may ibang sumusobra - they started as marginalized, pero biglang di na sila nakuntento sa equal treatment, gusto nila sila na yung nakakaangat. Para bang bumabawi dun sa years of oppression nila - unfortunately two wrongs dont make a right.

I think that whether one is straight, gay, transgender, or whatnot, they deserve to be treated nicely. Any judgment against them should be according to what they do, and not just because of their gender orientation.

I would look down on a transgender not disclosing to her boyfriend her history just as I would look down to a straight guy parading as a rich hotshot just to get a girl when he's just a mere social climber. Both have tried to build relationships on deception which is selfish and unfair to the other party.



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[cast_no_shadow]

Watching Failon Ngayon meron transgender na nag file ng case against a security guard, may ordinance pala sa QC about discrimination against LGBT.

And i quote

"Wala naman mali sa akin, hindi ako confused sa identity ko. BABAE AKO"


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