Overloading At Nlex

[FrankDrebin]

Grabe yung strike nila kahapon. Buti na lang nakuha sa usapan.

[kurt]

i think the answer is simple (though its not an expert opinion) but i used to work for a logistics firm and was recently also a trucker myself so i know trucks and roads.

for containerized cargo at least, the answer is to use a 3 axle chassis on 40ft containers. its the standard used by our principal at hongkong and other countries. as the rule states "13.5 tons per axel". from a 18wheller truck to 22 wheeler truck.

for a typical laden 40ft container weight is 30tons, using the ordinary common 2 axle chassis thats 15 tons per axle. its breaking the law. divde that 30tons to each 3 axles, thn the load is distributed as 10 tons per axle. less stress on the point the wheels touches the road.

to correctly follow the anti overloading rule, truckers must invest on 3axle chassis. and more tires. i know they can be a big big expense but i believe its in everybody's interest if that law is followed.

[jim]

in the first place bakit di pa inimpose yang overloading law na yan nung bago pa ang NLEX. saka since alam naman ng PNCC na marami talagang trucks na dumadaan sa NLEX, dapat tinibayan na nila ang paggawa. ang masama kasi nung nakita na ng PNCC na nasisira yung daan saka nila iimpose yung law tsk tsk tsk

[boybi]

i'm not very sure, i just heard this over the radio. wala daw madaanan sa ngayon mga truckers dahil meron yatang portion ng macarthur highway na hindi passable sa mga heavy trucks, under construction yata, tapos banned pa sila sa NLEX. and sa pagkakaalam ko, from the start bawal na talaga pumasok mga overloaded vehicles, pero parang late last year lang yata sila nagkaroon ng portable weighing devices kaya dun palang naging strict ang implementation.

[ILuvDetailing]

wala bang timbangan sa pier?
pwede bang ma adjust yung kargamento para di mag overload?

According to a trucker di daw pwedeng galawin yung laman ng kargamento at baka makasuhan sila.

[niky]

That's the problem... di naman wine-weigh sa pier yung cargo... basta kung anung nan-dun, yan ang ilalagay sa truck.

Dapat talagang mas strikto ang port authority, and they should tell the customers to pony up the money to rent the right size of truck for their cargo.

[fortuner13]

Teka, di yata maliwanag yung 13.5 ton per axle limit. Does the law define the axles as live axle limit or even beam axles included? Kung kasama beam axles 1 front + 1 rear + 1 rear live axle = 27.5 ton, right?

hindi nga maliwanag eh yun 13.50 tons/axle, sana tinaasan nila konti yun value, kc for 10 wheeler truck loaded with 20 tons or 18 wheeler trailer loaded with 35tons, hindi naman cya totally super bigat sa capacity ng truck na as in waiting to the tire blow-out, para bang nagsakay ka ng 5 adult siksikan excluding driver sa 4 door sedan car, overloading cya see pero kaya pa rin ng car, same thing to our truck.

[nugundam93]

i think the answer is simple (though its not an expert opinion) but i used to work for a logistics firm and was recently also a trucker myself so i know trucks and roads.

for containerized cargo at least, the answer is to use a 3 axle chassis on 40ft containers. its the standard used by our principal at hongkong and other countries. as the rule states "13.5 tons per axel". from a 18wheller truck to 22 wheeler truck.

for a typical laden 40ft container weight is 30tons, using the ordinary common 2 axle chassis thats 15 tons per axle. its breaking the law. divde that 30tons to each 3 axles, thn the load is distributed as 10 tons per axle. less stress on the point the wheels touches the road.

to correctly follow the anti overloading rule, truckers must invest on 3axle chassis. and more tires. i know they can be a big big expense but i believe its in everybody's interest if that law is followed.

kurt, i admire your thinking there. kudos!

for the greater good :D

[aceshark]

lately daming mga pulis or mmda na nang aabang sa entrance ng NLEX pinapara lahat ng closed vans, pickups, canters, L300 FB.... basta un pwede kargahan. E mga 4 wheel lang mga ito e hinuhuli pa!

OT: di kaya tinitingnan nila laman nung vans at naghahanap ng pwedeng MAIUWI para sa mga kabit nila?


TOPIC: ang pinakamaganda siguro dito ay sumunod na lang tayo sa kung ano ang sinasabi ng batas. tanggalin na natin sa utak natin yung mentality na "Hindi bale nang mang-abala, huwag lang ako ang maabala." ok ba yun mga brader? peace!

[JohnM]

OT: di kaya tinitingnan nila laman nung vans at naghahanap ng pwedeng MAIUWI para sa mga kabit nila?

Kasi yung ibang dapat 6-wheeler tinatanggal ang dalawang gulong sa loob para makalusot sa 4-wheel-no-truck-ban-rule (please correct me on this one). 4 wheels na nga lang eh overloaded pa. Recipe for disaster.

[boybi]

wala bang timbangan sa pier?
pwede bang ma adjust yung kargamento para di mag overload?

According to a trucker di daw pwedeng galawin yung laman ng kargamento at baka makasuhan sila.

That's the problem... di naman wine-weigh sa pier yung cargo... basta kung anung nan-dun, yan ang ilalagay sa truck.

Dapat talagang mas strikto ang port authority, and they should tell the customers to pony up the money to rent the right size of truck for their cargo.

hindi problema yung mga container vans coming from the ports, hindi overloaded yan since hindi naman papayagan ng shipping co. ang mga overloaded container vans na maisakay sa barko nila. the problem is really with the truckers, they should use the right vehicle for the right container van.

[OTEP]

Napakamot na lang ako ng ulo sa rally ng truckers. Ano ba gusto nila, huwag ipagbawal ang overloading? Labo ata nun. Overloaded sila, huwag sila gumamit ng NLEX or any road for that matter. As what was stated in the previous post, there is a proper trailer/equipment for such loads. Siguro cost cutting kaya daanin na lang sa rally. Tapos sisishin pa yung kalye kesyo mahina. Parang mga bus drivers na ayaw itapon ang junk buses. Daming dahilan.

[falken]

Overloaded trucks banned on MNR, too
By Ding Cervantes
The Philippine Star 02/11/2006

SAN FERNANDO, Pampanga — Operators and drivers of overloaded trucks will not find the old Manila North Road (MNR) an alternative to the North Luzon Expressway, (NLEX) where they are banned due to weight limits, even if its P1.6-billion upgrading is completed this year.

Ramon Aquino, Central Luzon director of the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), told The STAR that he is meeting with the Philippine National Police, the Land Transportation Office and other law enforcement agencies on Feb. 14 to make sure that Republic Act 8794, which limits vehicle loads to a maximum of 13.5 tons per axle, is strictly implemented along the old MNR.

Aquino said about 81 percent of the MNR, often erroneously referred to as MacArthur Highway, has already been upgraded under Phase 1 of the DPWH’s P500-million rehabilitation program.

The upgraded portions extend from Marilao, Bulacan to Tarlac City.

"We don’t want overloaded trucks to damage it prematurely. Besides, it is high time the law against overloading is strictly implemented for public safety," Aquino said.

He said the upgraded highway complies with international standards.

He cited a recent study showing that of 410 trucks weighed recently along the MNR, 98.29 percent were overloaded.

The other day, traffic got snarled for nearly five hours when some 300 trailer trucks blocked the area near the NLEX tollgate in Caloocan City to protest the anti-overloading policy of the Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC).

The truckers lifted the blockade only after police officials appealed to them.

Aquino, however, said truck owners would not encounter any problems if only they would use the proper trailer for heavy loads.

"The more the wheels that share the burden of the load, the lower would be the weight per axle," he said.

He said flatbed trucks fitted with more wheels can carry a load of as much as 38 tons without violating the maximum limit of 13.5 tons per axle.

"Such a flatbed truck could have a weight of 5.2 tons on the front wheels, and 8.1 tons each on the third to fourth wheels, so none of the axles would even reach the maximum of 13.5 tons per axle," he said.

On the other hand, a smaller truck with less wheels but loaded with only 17 tons could reflect 2.4 tons on the front wheels and as much as 13.6 tons on the rear wheels which would exceed the 13.5-ton maximum, he added.

"It’s just like an object being carried by people. The more people there are helping carry the object, the less weight each person would experience," he said.

With the strict implementation of the law against vehicle overloading, Aquino said truck owners are left with two alternatives.

"The short-term alternative is for them to lessen the load of their trucks. The long-term one is for them to upgrade their trucks so that they could carry heavy loads without violating the maximum weight per axle," he said.

Aquino said only four kilometers of the upgraded MNR need to be concreted.

Phase 2, to be started this year, would consist of upgrading 25 bridges, costing a total of P600 million which is included in the 2006 proposed budget.

He said these bridges include those along the MNR in Meycauayan and Labang in Calumpit, both in Bulacan, and Tiaong and Dalakitan in Sto. Tomas, Pampanga, which have been closed to heavy vehicles due to deterioration.

"But after these bridges have been replaced, overloaded trucks will not be allowed to use them," Aquino said.

Marlene Ochoa, MNTC director for corporate communications, said the company will not yield to the truckers’ demand to shelve its maximum weight rule along the NLEX, adding that "to ignore the weight limit is to break the law."

"Apart from breaking the law (and prematurely deteriorating the expressway), we would be putting the safety of other motorists on the NLEX in jeopardy if we allow overloaded trucks," she said.

The MNTC has portable weighing scales deployed randomly at entry points. Trucks found overloaded are escorted to the nearest exit, while their drivers are issued violation tickets and their driver’s licenses confiscated.

Department of Transportation and Communications Undersecretary for Land Transport Ricardo Alfonso defended the MNTC policy against overloaded trucks, saying their operators have been warned since last year.

[bender]

Not that I understand the numbers behind it but this example of applying the rules is what we should be doing more in our country. Too many rules whether legal, natural or practical are violated for the sake of expediency.
The reaction by the truckers is what normally happens here when laws are implemented. They complain loudly, try to get away with it and if that doesn't work, they implement strikes. Jeepneys, bus, GSIS employees, etc. have done it. But as the example of the NLEX when the fees were increased shows, having the will to do what needs to be done will overcome such resistance.

[jagxtrm]

i agree na dapat mas maraming gulong ang truck pag mas mabigat ang karga.

ang effect ng overloaded trucks sa road can be seen on the plaridel to san leonardo route (maharlika highway). nagkaroon na ng 'road canals' dun sa dinadaanan ng tires dahil sa bigat ng mga trucks.

mahirap mag overtake dun sa area na yun kc parang tatalon ka muna ng sidewalk before ka makalipat ng kabilang lane.

i think NLEX and old MNR (aka McArthur Highway) wouldn't want to have the same fate as the Maharlika highway from Plaridel to San Leonardo.

[kurt]

i see similarities of this stricter implementation of an old law that affects greatly the trucking industry to the time when RHD trucks were banned permanently from Phil Roads.

conversion to LHD or starting to import orig LHD trucks was the only solution for the truckers to follow the law, no excuses dapat.

so now, truckers must do the same again, they must invest on the correct equiptment to not only avoid being "overweight" but at the same time to carry their loads more safely. as should be the standard.

brother and sister truckers, have a dialogue with the authorities so you can set a timetable on ways you can adapt to this law.

not hold a strike on hopes you can force the authorities to exempt you from the law.

[mrpink]

parang sa reaction ng mga truckers .. they have been willfully violating the law ..

[fortuner13]

can anyone confirm ilan ang max allowable load ang 10 wheeler truck and 18 wheleer trailer truck? paano ba nila binibilang yun 13.50tons/axle?

[katsudon_ph]

can anyone confirm ilan ang max allowable load ang 10 wheeler truck and 18 wheleer trailer truck? paano ba nila binibilang yun 13.50tons/axle?

I think the computation would be like this
Example
20 tons total weight ng truck

If 10wheeler yan, dalawng axle likod
so 20/2 = 10tons per axle which is within 13.5tons per rear axle


for front tire, I think the limit is 6tons.

clear na ba?

[fortuner13]

ganyan din iniisip ko na computation but for 10 wheeler (assuming 2 axle binilang sa likod) so dapat safe ka pa sa 27tons right? + 6 tons front = 33 tons , pag 33 tons na bigat ng 10 wheeler I think hindi na makaka takbo yun truck