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    1) MNTC ruling on OVERLOADING sa NLEX is 13.50 Tons/axle, so for 10wheeler truck max load is 13.50 tons n 18 wheeler trailer truck 27 tons TAMA BA?? (please correct me if I'm wrong) kc majority of the truck Including me, load their 10 wheeler up to 20 tons n trailer up 35-40 tons.to maximize our expenses per trip.

    2) assuming max load for 10 wheeler is only 13.50 tons, so pag kinargahan mo ng mga 16 tons HULI ka kc overloading nga, masisira daw NLEX, pero pag yun trailer with a load of 27 tons lang hindi huhuliin kc nga hindi daw overload, pero ano mas mabigat? 27 o 16 tons? although mas maraming gulong ang trailer, I think pareho lang yun impact sa road kc nga mas mabigat din karga, sabi pa ng MNTC 85% daw ng dumadaan na truck sa NLEX is OVERLOADING, e alam na pala nila yun, e di sana nun ginagawa nila yun NLEX dapat naka design na siya for heavy load like 50-70 tons, my point is parang gumawa MNTC ng isang bridge tapos hindi pwede dumaan ang jeep with 30 passenger(assuming kasya) kc overloading n sasabihin masisira yun bridge, pero pwede dumaan ang malaking truck with cargo (not overloaded), pero d hamak na mas mabigat ang truck compare sa jeep with 30 passenger. another point is if assuming NLEX is design for heavy load 50-70 tons or more, syempre nasa a truck owner na yun if he/she want his truck to be overloaded and wear his truck engine n tires easily dba?

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    Safety siguro ang issue ... as indicated by some of their billboards.

    Sinasabi "Konting tulak na lang, matutumba na yung truck" or something like that. Its an exagerrated statement but the message is there. An overloaded truck endangers other people's lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortuner13
    1) syempre nasa a truck owner na yun if he/she want his truck to be overloaded and wear his truck engine n tires easily dba?
    Pasensiya na't di ako sang ayon sa sentence na ito. Ang pag ooverload ay isang sanhi ng aksidente, pag overloaded ang truck, may tendency na sumabog ang gulong and this could cause deaths or serious injuries. Pag nasiraan naman ang truck sa daan dahil sa overloading, it'll cause traffic. It's the responsibility of the truck owner to make sure his truck will not cause any accidents or inconvenience to others. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortuner13
    2) assuming max load for 10 wheeler is only 13.50 tons, so pag kinargahan mo ng mga 16 tons HULI ka kc overloading nga, masisira daw NLEX, pero pag yun trailer with a load of 27 tons lang hindi huhuliin kc nga hindi daw overload, pero ano mas mabigat? 27 o 16 tons? although mas maraming gulong ang trailer, I think pareho lang yun impact sa road kc nga mas mabigat din karga
    kaya nga po per axle ang weight limit. iba po ang impact kahit mas mabigat yung isa. mas malaki ang force ng 16 tons on a single axle than 27 tons on double axles. divide mo yung weight per wheel dahil ito ang may direct contact sa daan.
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    na didistribute kasi ung weight pag maraming gulong.

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    lately daming mga pulis or mmda na nang aabang sa entrance ng NLEX pinapara lahat ng closed vans, pickups, canters, L300 FB.... basta un pwede kargahan. E mga 4 wheel lang mga ito e hinuhuli pa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselNUBI
    lately daming mga pulis or mmda na nang aabang sa entrance ng NLEX pinapara lahat ng closed vans, pickups, canters, L300 FB.... basta un pwede kargahan. E mga 4 wheel lang mga ito e hinuhuli pa!

    OT: di kaya tinitingnan nila laman nung vans at naghahanap ng pwedeng MAIUWI para sa mga kabit nila?


    TOPIC: ang pinakamaganda siguro dito ay sumunod na lang tayo sa kung ano ang sinasabi ng batas. tanggalin na natin sa utak natin yung mentality na "Hindi bale nang mang-abala, huwag lang ako ang maabala." ok ba yun mga brader? peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceshark
    OT: di kaya tinitingnan nila laman nung vans at naghahanap ng pwedeng MAIUWI para sa mga kabit nila?
    Kasi yung ibang dapat 6-wheeler tinatanggal ang dalawang gulong sa loob para makalusot sa 4-wheel-no-truck-ban-rule (please correct me on this one). 4 wheels na nga lang eh overloaded pa. Recipe for disaster.

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    i think mabigat din yun van na may kargang gold bullions so chinecheck nila kung overloaded =)

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    To oversimplify things...

    If you carry 1 sack of rice on your shoulders, mabigat di ba? E kung dalawa kayo 1 sack pa rin, pero yung bigat on each person is just half.

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    iba kasi ang impact pag concentrated ang load kesa distributed load and sa uniform load. lesser impact pag mas madami yun gulong.

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    ehehehe, nasagutan na pala. :D

    the sack of rice analogy is best.

    syempre nasa a truck owner na yun if he/she want his truck to be overloaded and wear his truck engine n tires easily dba?
    yes, that's true, it's up to the truck owner. the thing is, it'll also damage the road (and the repair cost will be passed on sa other users who won't damage the road as much), and having an overloaded truck is a safety risk as well.
    Last edited by nugundam93; February 10th, 2006 at 05:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortuner13
    1) MNTC ruling on OVERLOADING sa NLEX is 13.50 Tons/axle, so for 10wheeler truck max load is 13.50 tons n 18 wheeler trailer truck 27 tons TAMA BA?? (please correct me if I'm wrong) kc majority of the truck Including me, load their 10 wheeler up to 20 tons n trailer up 35-40 tons.to maximize our expenses per trip.
    on two occassions, try standing on a trampoline 1) on two feet and then 2) on one foot. observe that, by standing on one foot, you go deeper into the trampoline compared to standing on two feet. this is an analogy of how much pressure impacts the road between a 10 and 18 wheeler trucks both carrying 27 tons...

    besides, as the others have pointed out, overloaded trucks are like "rolling coffins" waiting for an accident to happen

    Quote Originally Posted by dieselNUBI
    lately daming mga pulis or mmda na nang aabang sa entrance ng NLEX pinapara lahat ng closed vans, pickups, canters, L300 FB.... basta un pwede kargahan. E mga 4 wheel lang mga ito e hinuhuli pa!
    they maybe overdoing it for another reason, but as pointed out by the thread starter, 85% of trucks plying NLEX are overloaded. the authorities should really be very strict about this because the effect, among others, will be the faster deterioration of the road which will translate to unnecessary higher taxes & toll fees to the remaining 15% of truck owners & other commuters as well

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    Parang makunat na beef yang kalsada ...

    - Yung overloded na truck, parang matalas na ngipin.
    - Yung mas mabigat na truck pero marami namang gulong, parang pustiso.
    - Yung mga kotse, parang bungal.

    Lugi nga yung mga bungal

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    kawawa nga yung mga bungal :D

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    Rice Analogy:

    Any estimate on how much this is carrying?:


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    kung rice ang laman ng mga sako, and mukhang 10-wheeler truck yan, it must be carrying at least 700 sacks. at 50kg per sack of rice, that's about 35tons.
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    Tingin ko dyan ay "Ipa" lang yan... yung pinag gilingan ng palay. (Balat ng palay in short).

    Back to the topic, I also agree with most of the comments here. Para sa safety talaga ng lahat ang overloading policy ng MNTC. Para sakin, maganda yan na nadidisiplina ang mga dumadaang trucks dyan. Remember during the old days... madaming trucks ang sinasabugan ng gulong dyan sa NLEX dahil sa overloading.

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    Teka, di yata maliwanag yung 13.5 ton per axle limit. Does the law define the axles as live axle limit or even beam axles included? Kung kasama beam axles 1 front + 1 rear + 1 rear live axle = 27.5 ton, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungas
    Teka, di yata maliwanag yung 13.5 ton per axle limit. Does the law define the axles as live axle limit or even beam axles included? Kung kasama beam axles 1 front + 1 rear + 1 rear live axle = 27.5 ton, right?
    hindi nga maliwanag eh yun 13.50 tons/axle, sana tinaasan nila konti yun value, kc for 10 wheeler truck loaded with 20 tons or 18 wheeler trailer loaded with 35tons, hindi naman cya totally super bigat sa capacity ng truck na as in waiting to the tire blow-out, para bang nagsakay ka ng 5 adult siksikan excluding driver sa 4 door sedan car, overloading cya see pero kaya pa rin ng car, same thing to our truck.

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