Makati Ticket NOT Accepted by MMDA

**slip-slick** · July 5th, 2006 12:49 PM

He should not have agreed to the Driving Without License violation. He does have a license, isampal nya ung Makati ticket as proof of license. Dapat Failure to show/surrender license lang, and that is only a P150 fine. Madalas ganito ang mga ginagawa ng mga apprehending police para palakihin violation mo so you'd "settle" with them.

Originally Posted by squala

Happened to my uncle's friend once. In Makati he was caught making a U-turn illegally. He knew he was at fault so he surrendered his license and took a ticket. The next few days, an MMDA flagged him down for "swerving." IIRC, this was in EDSA extension approaching Mall of Asia. This time, he was sure he did not really swerve. It's just that his car was nearing those orange blocks forming a U-turn and he slightly turned right to go straight. But in MMDA speak, that's already swerving. We all know they'll do anything for you to commit a violation and pay up.

Well, going back to the ticket, he presented it to the MMDA officer, but it wasn't honored. Since he obviously can't produce his license, the light-blue guy already added a Driving-Without-License violation. My uncle's friend was furious he wanted to get away at the start, but traffic won't let him. Being a tall, big guy, he wanted to beat the officer to pieces, but that would just worsen his case. What I remember is that he just settled a certain sum, I think half the fine of his "violations." Then he immediately went back to Makati and claimed his license.

I hope none of us will experience what he did, so whatever happens, NEVER EVER give up your license. We know for a fact that there are warring traffic organizations (MMDA, MAPSA, Choco Boys, etc.) where the motorists are the biggest losers. There are different traffic rules in different places in Metro Manila, so be careful. But if you're caught, just be ready to spare a few hundreds, which is exactly what they want anyway. Believe me, it's way easier than what that guy experienced.

**mazdamazda** · July 5th, 2006 01:09 PM

nice one architect. that's the proper way to deal with this.

Originally Posted by architect

Just some tips when dealing with traffic enforcers -

1. Never be rude to them, especially if you know you have not done anything wrong. For most of them, their dignity is the only thing they have. You attack their dignity, you lessen your chances of getting off scot-free. Instead, greet them cordially and ask what the problem is.

2. If you've been caught "swerving," ask the officer to please define what swerving is. Chances are he can't. If he does, ask him his source for the definition. Tell him your lawyer has advised you to contest the ticket if you're caught for "swerving." Tell him your lawyer would be more than willing to contest the ticket in court, meaning he will have to appear also. Most of them dread going to court and making fools out of themselves. More often than not, the officer would simply start scratching his head. This is your cue to advise him to ask his superior for the meaning, close your window and slowly drive away.

3. If you're caught running a red light (and are actually innocent or is a victim of abrupt light changes), you can tell the officer that your friends have informed you about the intersection being a trap or that it has been discussed in the internet forums as a well-known trap) and that you have been advised by your lawyer to contest the ticket. The officers are supposed to be guiding traffic - NOT waiting for offenders. As this will be revealed in court, the officers would rather not take the risk and be penalized for non-performance of duty. More often than not, especially if they are convinced your lawyer will contest the ticket, they will let you go.

3. For those lucky enough to have a foreign driver's license, bring along a hotel key (e.g. Shangrila EDSA's card key). If arrested, tell the officer you're just visiting and that you are staying in the hotel, that you do not have a local address, and that the car does not belong to you. (It belongs to a sibling, etc.) If he threatens to get your driver's license, gently inform him that the license is the property of the foreign government and that if it is subseqently lost, he will be liable. This will usually scare the officer to back off and let you go. It is up to you then if you want to give him a consolation prize or not.

4. If you are too young to convince the officer that you interact with lawyers, you can tell him that you were advised by your dad's lawyers.

Just remember to be polite. If the officer has no reason to be offended, chances are he will let you go once he realizes the risks he will be taking if he persists on giving you a ticket. After all, there are so many other victims he can feast on. It is just a matter of waiting for these guys. There is simply no reason for him to waste his day(s) in court where he can not prey on victims.

**sirkosero** · July 5th, 2006 05:21 PM

iba naman talaga ang driving without license pati driving without possesion of a license

**Egan101** · July 5th, 2006 05:34 PM

Nabiktima ako ng MMDA dyan sa may Mall of Asia two weeks ago. Sabi, swerving daw ako. The week before that, wala naman presence ng mga MMDA enforcers dun sa area tapos wala naman hulihan. Tapos bigla silang nanghuli. After a while, umulan at biglang nawala yung mga enforcers. Bakit di nila hulihin yung mga asal-aso na mga bus drivers na hayop mag-swerve along EDSA?

**slip-slick** · July 5th, 2006 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Nabiktima ako ng MMDA dyan sa may Mall of Asia two weeks ago. Sabi, swerving daw ako. The week before that, wala naman presence ng mga MMDA enforcers dun sa area tapos wala naman hulihan. Tapos bigla silang nanghuli. After a while, umulan at biglang nawala yung mga enforcers. Bakit di nila hulihin yung mga asal-aso na mga bus drivers na hayop mag-swerve along EDSA?

kasi alam nilang wlang kita dun e..

**cocoy** · July 5th, 2006 09:38 PM

just want to add, if you go to the airport also watch out for the kotong boys near caltex. i have even seen them hanging out there at 12am. i guess many people going to the airport have lots of money to give this kotong cops.

**OTEP** · July 5th, 2006 11:35 PM

Sa M. dela Fuente (near UST) ala una ng madaling araw nagtatago pa sa dilim ang mobile ng pulis nagaantay ng magkakamaling pumasok sa kalye (one way kasi pero maluwag, walang karatula and walang tao ng 1 am!).

Nahuli yung classmate ng kapatid ko. Buti na lang may kakilalang anak ng general sa vicinity...

**squala** · July 6th, 2006 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by sirkosero

iba naman talaga ang driving without license pati driving without possesion of a license

Well, iba-iba ang definition nila niyan. MAPSA ticket presented to MMDA is much like null and void. They don't recognize the document, so you're as good as driving without license.

Basta just don't give up your license no matter what. This turf war between different traffic (dis)organizations is more like Alien versus Predator, where the people are the losers.

**jang** · July 6th, 2006 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by squala

Well, iba-iba ang definition nila niyan. MAPSA ticket presented to MMDA is much like null and void. They don't recognize the document, so you're as good as driving without license.

Basta just don't give up your license no matter what. This turf war between different traffic (dis)organizations is more like Alien versus Predator, where the people are the losers.

e ano gagawin namin if those yellow boys ask for our license?

**badsekktor** · July 6th, 2006 01:52 PM

folks, maybe we could do something about this! tsikot is a large community and we have vast resources. san ba pwede i-reklamo ang mga ganitong klaseng enforcer. Man it really pisses me off. Meron din ako bad experience sa ganyan. Nung tinatanong ko yun enforcer kung ano ang violation ko eh akma ba naman bunutin yun .38 revolver nya! langya swerte nya at di ako pumapatol sa ganon. 5 kami sa sasakyan and we have "equipment" too. nagpahuli na lang ako at binayaran ko yun multa. kala nya makakakotong sya!