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**b_9904** · January 1st, 2016 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by jigeloh

Dalawang instance na may kasalanan motor. Close call din yung una.

Yung second ogag lang talaga. Kaya ayoko lumagpas ng 40-50kph pag asa Q. Ave (or similar avenues) eh.

**Colteagle** · January 1st, 2016 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by timo07

My opinion also. The innova was changing lane from the inner (overtaking) probably to make it free (as the practice should be). Turn lights on and started his change when the MC overtook to the right (mali ito di ba?). Not sure if the MC was using his turn signal lights and if the innova driver saw him from the rearview mirror.

For those not familiar with SLEX, there is a exit towards the fort on the right side which is separated by barriers which the innova missed. So what the idiot tried to do was make a right turn towards the entry from the fort to slex which is one way. He did this from the left side of the expressway and cut all the way to the right and counterflowed towards the fort. The video doesn't show this. The rider didn't overtake as some here keep saying, he switched lanes. Know the difference.

If you are switching lanes the driver must not just glance once but has to constantly be checking the mirrors to make sure the path is clear which the innova did not do and actually in his desire not to miss his opportunity to get to the fort, kept trying to turn right even though the biker was already beside him clearly visible and audible.

And those defending the scooter rider that never checked his mirrors at all before switching lanes to the left and almost causing an accident, you guys need your eyes checked.

**KERSMcRae** · January 1st, 2016 02:59 PM

^not really defending the "scooter" rider. He missed to double check his 7-9 o'clock kung merong kasunod yung unang "scooter" rider na lumagpas sa kanya. Coz the video is clear, at some point , you are visually blocked by the rider in front. And with your speed, nabulaga na sya katabi na nya si .. "Rossi" (muntik na sya masipa).. :D

Kitang kita na nagulat , ang layo nung bumalik sya sa kanan.

**Colteagle** · January 1st, 2016 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by KERSMcRae

^not really defending the "scooter" rider. He missed to double check his 7-9 o'clock kung merong kasunod yung unang "scooter" rider na lumagpas sa kanya. Coz the video is clear, at some point , you are visually blocked by the rider in front. And with your speed, nabulaga na sya katabi na nya si .. "Rossi" (muntik na sya masipa).. :D

Kitang kita na nagulat , ang layo nung bumalik sya sa kanan.

Which is why drivers should be checking their mirrors not once but multiple times till the maneuver is successfully completed. Not just the mirrors but they should also turn their heads to check the blind spots.

**b_9904** · January 1st, 2016 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Colteagle

Which is why drivers should be checking their mirrors not once but multiple times till the maneuver is successfully completed. Not just the mirrors but they should also turn their heads to check the blind spots.

With all due respect, constantly craning your neck to look at your RIGHT blindspot is dangerous. Also, side mirrors have blind spots so you might have entered that spot already.

THUS, the reason for the adage "nasa likod ka, so ikaw mag adjust."

**b_9904** · January 1st, 2016 10:54 PM

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...0ljMHJJV01fWlE

Hindi ko lang alam kung ako ba may problema sa dalawang incident na ito eh.

yung 3rd incident na curious lang ako kung bakit ganun at nag aaway yung mga yun sa kalsada.

**Colteagle** · January 2nd, 2016 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by b_9904

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...0ljMHJJV01fWlE

Hindi ko lang alam kung ako ba may problema sa dalawang incident na ito eh.

Maybe you should apply the saying "nasa likod ka, so ikaw mag adjust." to those scenarios since technically the taxis are already infront of you when they cut in your lane.

Just saying... that addage is total bs to me and is an excuse to condone bad driving.

**b_9904** · January 2nd, 2016 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Colteagle

Maybe you should apply the saying "nasa likod ka, so ikaw mag adjust." to those scenarios since technically the taxis are already infront of you when they cut in your lane.

Just saying... that addage is total bs to me and is an excuse to condone bad driving.

You forget, no signal lights bro. Also, the distance, parehas dikit na saakin yung mga taxi ng pumasok sa lane ko. In short, hindi ko alam na papasok sila until bumulaga na sila.

In your scenario, the Innova signaled habang malayo layo kapa. You even beeped because you KNEW he was turning, hindi ka lang nagbigay.

**dcph172** · January 2nd, 2016 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by b_9904

In your scenario, the Innova signaled habang malayo layo kapa. You even beeped because you KNEW he was turning, hindi ka lang nagbigay.

I agree. Im with the innova on this one.

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**timo07** · January 2nd, 2016 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Colteagle

For those not familiar with SLEX, there is a exit towards the fort on the right side which is separated by barriers which the innova missed. So what the idiot tried to do was make a right turn towards the entry from the fort to slex which is one way. He did this from the left side of the expressway and cut all the way to the right and counterflowed towards the fort. The video doesn't show this. The rider didn't overtake as some here keep saying, he switched lanes. Know the difference.

If you are switching lanes the driver must not just glance once but has to constantly be checking the mirrors to make sure the path is clear which the innova did not do and actually in his desire not to miss his opportunity to get to the fort, kept trying to turn right even though the biker was already beside him clearly visible and audible.

And those defending the scooter rider that never checked his mirrors at all before switching lanes to the left and almost causing an accident, you guys need your eyes checked.

After Nichols Exit? There is really a makeshift exit there going to the service road. I'm not sure if we're pointing at the same section, if so then he did not do a counterflow. Maybe he should have used the right side exits so as not to have inconvenienced the MC rider. But the way the MC rider "changed lanes" was dangerous for both motorists. As mentioned by b_9904 below, there is a blind spot to the right. I had a similar situation before when I was driving my innova at the NLEX. Checked my rearview, clear. Checked my right side view mirror, clear then I started changing to the right. But there was a small car, not even a motorcycle I would have run to had I proceeded with the turn. But the good thing was my wife was quite alert to warn me and we averted an accident. Should I have been more vigilant to check beyond the rearview and side mirrors, definitely. I'm not condemning the MC rider in your video but he could have been more careful in those moments leading to the near side crash.

Oh well, Happy New Year[emoji6]

Originally Posted by b_9904

With all due respect, constantly craning your neck to look at your RIGHT blindspot is dangerous. Also, side mirrors have blind spots so you might have entered that spot already.

THUS, the reason for the adage "nasa likod ka, so ikaw mag adjust."