"Cagers and Riders Friendly Coexistence" Thread

[Bogeyman]

OT:

Hercules, that was Holy Wednesday, March 23, around noon. I forgot which part of Quezon it was, pero yun yung may maraming puno, with the watermelon vendors left and right. Tapos gradually nagiging one lane yung kalsada because the bridge there was damaged. The day after we got to Legaspi, another group of motorcycle riders arrived at the hotel we were staying in (Sampaguita) nung umaga. Then as we were going home on Easter Sunday, may nakasabay uli kaming grupo ng riders, on the same Quezon stretch at around 10:30am. This is aside from the first group of motorcyclists we saw sa Laguna at around 9am, mostly mga scooters ang dala nila. We even saw the muffler on one scooter fall off while on the road. Didn't notice identifying marks on any of the groups.

[eojlin]

Btw, ang daming bikers sa Metrowalk kagabi a (40 to 50 bikes). Nagtago nga ako baka may mga furious tsikot forumer sa mga nandun. hehehe kidding.

[wasted_23]

grabe, haba agad ng thread.

bros and sis, let's just be responsible riders/drivers. it's a big world out there and it is our responsibility to make it safer for everyone. cheers!!!!

[alwayz_yummy]

ok ang topic n ito for riders and drivers...to exchange opinions and views...walang personalan..for the benefit of us all..

about sa "we live in a free country", i think we filipinoes should drop this F***n' line!eto ang root cause kaya di umasenso ang pilipinas, this is called: FREEDOM OVERUSED AND ABUSED...such child-act....

nga pla,most provincial trike drivers uses hand signal instead of the lights(even if they're in 100% functional....

true din,(jokes ko nadinig)
kapag boy/girl sa bike, at driver lang may helment....di mahal ng guy ung girl..if vice versa,abay..mahal ng guy ung girl.

i'm afraid sa riders with his whole family in a single motorcycle!(they should invest nalang sa 660cc vehicles, for their family's safety)

[alwayz_yummy]

pero alam nyu,nagbibigay daan ako sa bikers...lalo na kung dirt-bikes...mahirap na baka "gun-for-hire" mga yan at maging bonus target ako....

[ILuvDetailing]

Ang bilis humaba ng thread na to... 10 pages na pala Anyway, lets keep the streets safe for both motorcycles and cars.

[pissword]

for me wala naman problema ang mga big bikers eh... ang problema yung tricycle, pedicab at yung mga bagong mga maliliit na motor ngayon na nakamods pa at pagkaingay ingay na kung humarurot mabibingi kana, matatakot ka pa at baka tumama sayo...

[Wolver888]

Both sides have valid points... Walang personalan, we're just sharing our views. Talo ang pikon dito....

I agree to that.

As for me, I see it as a healthy discussion between two passions.

[O!lman]

Btw, ang daming bikers sa Metrowalk kagabi a (40 to 50 bikes). Nagtago nga ako baka may mga furious tsikot forumer sa mga nandun. hehehe kidding.

Nice one sir.... Lahat po ng Bikers group ay matitino dahil ayaw nilang ma-tarnished ang refutation ng grupo...As we said earlier, meron ding member na mongoloid ang pagiisip at pasaway!

Kahit riders ako, Naiinis din po ako sa mga fellow MC riders na mayayabang sa kalye lalo na't occupy na nilang lahat ang space sa kalye.Kasi di ganun ang disipline namin sa club! Kapag dala ko ang kotse ko, talagang binubusinahan ko.....peste kasi eh!

Salamat din at na open ang topic na ito....At least nagkaroon ng konting dialogue ang mga motorists...Pasensyahan na lang po tayo at magbigayan sa kalye! PEACE to ALL!

[morrissey_05]

about sa "we live in a free country", i think we filipinoes should drop this F***n' line!eto ang root cause kaya di umasenso ang pilipinas, this is called: FREEDOM OVERUSED AND ABUSED...such child-act....


alwayz yummy,

you mean to tell me you don't believe we live in a free country? hmmm what would you rather have? a country with less or no freedoms at all. that means we won't have any forums like this to discuss the important, at least to us, issues of today like bikes and cars on the road. personally, i like my freedoms, doesnt mean i abuse them.

kasi i think freedom demands responsibilty. and i think this is where the Filipinos fall short. and this applies to the ongoing argument, its all a matter of responsibility, not to mention respect.

if you ask me, ang problema ng bayan simple: GREED. corruption. sobrang ganid ng mga naka-upo sa pwesto at paglustay ng pera ng bayan. its not so much abusing the freedoms that we have. OT na to...

pero palagay ko tama rin yung sa yo. pagbigyan mo na. doesnt hurt. that's what i do and it keeps me sane while driving hehe

how about another food for thought guys: there is a prevailing notion in other countries like the US that drivers have to treat bikers like it was another car. what do you think of this? personally, i try that notion out in my head when im driving. and to tell you the truth, it does work. but i also think that to ask to be treated like a car means riders can show you can behave in accordance ie. follow traffic rules, riding responsibly, etc. and that is where the problem lies.

see you all on the roads!!

[ts1n1ta]

hahaba na naman... hehehe

edit: respect on the road. yep that's the keyword.

[eojlin]

about sa "we live in a free country", i think we filipinoes should drop this F***n' line!eto ang root cause kaya di umasenso ang pilipinas, this is called: FREEDOM OVERUSED AND ABUSED...such child-act....

alwayz yummy,

you mean to tell me you don't believe we live in a free country? hmmm what would you rather have? a country with less or no freedoms at all. that means we won't have any forums like this to discuss the important, at least to us, issues of today like bikes and cars on the road. personally, i like my freedoms, doesnt mean i abuse them.

Edit --> (replaced "she" with "he") hihihi
I think what he really meant was, he's against the abuse of freedom and not freedom itself.

how about another food for thought guys: there is a prevailing notion in other countries like the US that drivers have to treat bikers like it was another car. what do you think of this? personally, i try that notion out in my head when im driving. and to tell you the truth, it does work. but i also think that to ask to be treated like a car means riders can show you can behave in accordance ie. follow traffic rules, riding responsibly, etc. and that is where the problem lies.

Yes, I experienced driving there. But the "notion" is more like bikers should drive like a car on it's lane rather than treating bikers like it was another car.
Meaning, they should not swerve like bikes and keep the car-size space in lanes.
Maybe, we could practice that here. If more bikes don't swerve as much as they do now, and if they keep proper lane spacing (car-size spacing), this may help bikes be less invisible on our roads. What do you guys think?
Bikers drive their bike like they're driving "cages," it's a little farfetched, considering the size or our roads, and the multitude of vehicles on the road.

Nice one sir.... Lahat po ng Bikers group ay matitino dahil ayaw nilang ma-tarnished ang refutation ng grupo...As we said earlier, meron ding member na mongoloid ang pagiisip at pasaway!

buti na lang! akala ko katapusan ko na! hehehe just kidding.

[Elroi]

wow... ang bilis humaba nito ah... cool lang peepz..

napansin ko lang ... Seven ([SIZE=2]7[/SIZE]) kaagad ang new members na dito sa thread na to ang first post...

just drive safely and responsibly...

[Panzer]

Siguro masasabi na naten na may bagong rule sa kalsada ng Metro Manila...

"Mag-ingat pag pa arangkada lalo na pag galing sa full stop (pag traffic). Kasi baka may sumulpot sa Motorsiklo sa harapan o tagiliran."

Nde na kasi naten matatanggal yung mga motorsiklo sa mga kalye naten. Intindihin na lang natin na mas malaki ang RISK of accidents nila kaysa sa atin. Kaya siguro mas maganda siguro kung tayo na lang ang mag adjust para sa safety ng lahat.

Sanayan lang siguro yan... Magagawa naten yan...

Pero ungas pa rin yung "ahas" na motorsiklo sa traffic. Baka may DEATHWISH yung mga ganun, o may deadline... hehehe...

[ILuvDetailing]

I think what she really meant was, she's against the abuse of freedom and not freedom itself.

Alwayz Yummy is a he.

We should give ample space between you and the vehicle in front of you whether its a motorcycle or not and ofcourse drive sensibly, always look left and right before changing lanes or crossing an intersection.

If our fellow Motorcyle drivers want us to treat them like cars then they should drive their motorcycles like cars and give us car drivers the same consideration as they expect from us. The problem is sometimes reckless motorcycle drivers don't do that put them themselves at risk.

[FrankDrebin]

hahaba na naman... hehehe

...ang alin?

[Wolver888]

...ang alin?

I second that. Hehehehe.

[smashgear]

To all,
Why not organize a bikers-cagers event to discuss things or share thoughts, opinions, ideas.. organize a joint forum, then settle for some agreement or understanding. It will be much better than doing it here in the web forum. Eventually, regular meets maybe realized. I see it a healthy avenue to achieve harmonious relationship between bikers and cagers. Communication can be coursed through motorcycle clubs presidents or at large, thru Motorcycle Philippines Federation.

Mga TODA, mukhang malabo, pero try nyo rin :D

[morrissey_05]

eojlin,
Yes, I experienced driving there. But the "notion" is more like bikers should drive like a car on it's lane rather than treating bikers like it was another car.
Meaning, they should not swerve like bikes and keep the car-size space in lanes.
Maybe, we could practice that here. If more bikes don't swerve as much as they do now, and if they keep proper lane spacing (car-size spacing), this may help bikes be less invisible on our roads. What do you guys think?

cant agree with you more. this is what i really meant po. but maybe riders here ride the way car drivers drive? hehehe joke lang po. in riding, there is an optimum position behind the car to make it more visible and staying out of the blind spot. i think it again sadly boils down to education.

ILD,
We should give ample space between you and the vehicle in front of you whether its a motorcycle or not and ofcourse drive sensibly, always look left and right before changing lanes or crossing an intersection.

If our fellow Motorcyle drivers want us to treat them like cars then they should drive their motorcycles like cars and give us car drivers the same consideration as they expect from us. The problem is sometimes reckless motorcycle drivers don't do that put them themselves at risk.


that i think is a sensible statement. sadly, the majority of riders behave like snakes on the road. not very good. i have always thought that for car drivers to "respect" riders, riders should ride sensibly as if on a car. but thats just me.

cheers to all.

[accs]

It's a funny thing though...

when I am driving my car and a rider cuts my path , I get pissed off.....
and then again, when I am riding my bike and a "cage" suddenly almost sideswipes me..... hmmmm..


It just goes to show na some riders AND drivers are irresponsible at "pasaway" but then again madami din naman tayo ditong RIDERS and DRIVERS na responsible that's why we are discussing this topic di ba? PEACE!!!