"Cagers and Riders Friendly Coexistence" Thread

[O!lman]

Dito ako naiinis sa umaga pag papasok sa office or kahit na uuwi na ako...siguro ako lang makakapansin kasi taga south ako...sa sucat road po ito,grabe feeling astig pa kamo...pag bubusinahan mo, mumurahin ka pa!!!! bakit ginawa ba ang mga main road para sa kanila?pasencya na po kung rude ako..nakakainis lang talaga...

pls don't generalize all bikers like that..Hindi lang po Bikers ang mga loko-loko sa kalye... marami din pong Ogags na naka-kotse! Motorcycles or cars...parepareho tayong nagbabayad ng registration at road tax...kaya magbigayan na lang tayo sa kalye! Peace

I'm a bigbike enthusiast also like others here in Tsikot and recently joined a MC club. Marami talagang astig na members(judge,Police and military officers, parish priests, eng'rs, businessman, market vendors, OFW) pero di nila pinagmamayabang at wlang discrimination... mahirap o mayaman pwede mag-join sa group namin basta susunod sa by-laws ng grupo..

Sa mahal kasi ng petroleum products ngayon kaya naglipana ang mga MC sa kalye plus the cheap china bikes flooding our market.



Drive Safely na lang tayo at magbigayan sa kalye...

[morrissey_05]

i'm sorry but i have to agree with centum. not all bikers are like that. the bikers community is trying to promote riding safely and responsibly. unfortunately, marami rin mga gagong bikers. its an uphill battle. again, hindi lahat at dapat wag lahatin.

pareho lang dba? marami ring gagong drivers. i meet a lot on the road, whether on my bike or behind the wheel. i'm sure all of you have, dont tell me hindi. in both cases, it cuts across all economic lines. and i think the same could also be said about driver education, its also an uphill battle.

since i started riding a bike, my attitude now is when i am driving my car and there are bikes around me, i just let them go ahead. no harm done anyway.

sana magbago na ang attitude na ganito, it doesnt work to foster hate towards a particular sector of the riding/driving public. all the more if we include generalizations, whether unfounded or not, about this sector. it will only foster more animosity on the roads when lamig ng ulo ang dapat umiral.

lets share the roads bec we all paid for it. lets all ride/drive responsibly.


ps: believe it or not, i feel i became a better driver after doing time on the saddle.

[v22]

yes.. please dont generalize all motorcycle riders as assholes, 4 wheelers also have their own share of them....

i drive a car and also ride a motorcycle... and i'm guilty f staying in the middle of the lane... the reason why we do this is because its more risky to stay rightmost because of the possibility of being sideswiped! i just maintain the legal speed (which is really not a problem for motorcycles) and let the other motorists overtake if they could....

[Wolver888]

Yep, hindi rin sana lahatin dahil marami rin mga riders na may safety awareness at may tamang asal sa kalye.

Dito na nga lang sa amin, sa motorcycle club namin, marami din kaming sumusunod sa defensive riding at road courtesy .... pero meron din barubal sa kalye na member sa club namin ... nagkalat din ang mga individual riders na feeling nasa race track sila.

Kung gamit ko cage ko, nakaka enkwentro din ako ng mga cage drivers na akala mo nasa racing circuit sila. Minsan sa siksikan na trapik pasalamat sya nde nakakabit bullbar ko, ang sarap pag nakamali sya ng singit.

Mountain biker at Road biker din ako, marami din sa grupo namin ang marunong sa road courtesy, may mga ilan ilan din na feeling importante sila sa daan.



Sana lang po, courtesy din sana tayo sa pagpost ng mga comments, dito tayo magkakaroon ng mabuting pagbigay ng ideas kesa samaan ng loob at batuhan ng bintang. Dito rin pwede tayo magtulungan kung sakaling kakailanganin, wag po sanang napaka-patriotic sa isang kinahihiligan natin na makakalimutan na nating "BUMUSINA" sa kapwa nating gumagamit ng kalye, pag "BUBUSINA" tayo, maiiwasan po nating makatama sa mga walang kasalanan. Peace.;)

[eojlin]

Sa mga bikers, see my post in this thread (post #4)...
IMHO, without discrimination or hate stuff (and promoting peace, hehe), mas risky pa rin ang bikes sa main roads. Nakakatakot pa rin dumikit sa kanila sa kalsada. Sa tutuo lang, most bikes, nangyayari talaga na invisible sila sa kalsada.

*peace* at opinion lang!

[falken]

Sa tagal ko nang nagdadrive, wala pa naman akong nakitang naka big bike na gago magdrive, pinakamadalas yung mga delivery boys ng mga fastfood outlets, puro kaskasero may time limit kasi, dapat tanggalin na yung promo nila na may time limit.

[Bogeyman]

Maka-ilang beses na akong muntik makadale ng motorsiklo, mga bigla na lang kasing sisingit minsan pag liliko ako, or basta na lang magka-cut sa tabi ko, o bigla na lang susulpot sa harap ko habang patawid ako. Somebody on two wheels even had the gall to *tap* the side of my car, as a signal that he was about to pass. What, can't you use your horn instead? Do you even have a horn in the first place? Can you afford to pay me in the event that you damage my car's paint job? Pukininang, iniingatan ko yung pintura ng kotse ko, tapos tatapikin lang ng kung sinong hunghang na naka-motor....

Driving habits aside, motorcycles are inherently more dangerous because of their size. They are more difficult to spot because they can easily slip into your blind spot, making them a greater threat both to me and to themselves, unlike four-wheeled vehicles na malayo pa lang, kita mo na. A lot, and I mean a lot of motorcylists I encounter on the road don't even have the common sense to use a helmet! Kaya tuloy pag napuruhan, ay sus, pasensyahan na lang, hane? Kay San Pedro ka na lang magpaliwanag.

[Elroi]

minsan may sinusundan ako 2 tricycle nagkakarera sa highway... 40 yata ang takbo nila pero feeling nya 100kph na.. nung mag-oovertake na ako bigla itinaas nung driver yung kaliwang paa then sabay left turn...

pakshet... buti naka preno ako... yun paang pala ang pang-signal nila..hehe

[SEALANDER]

Sa mga bikers, see my post in this thread (post #4)...
IMHO, without discrimination or hate stuff (and promoting peace, hehe), mas risky pa rin ang bikes sa main roads. Nakakatakot pa rin dumikit sa kanila sa kalsada. Sa tutuo lang, most bikes, nangyayari talaga na invisible sila sa kalsada.

*peace* at opinion lang!

Motorcycles are registered vehicles. To be registered owners are required to pay fees and road users tax. I think its their right to share the roads with cars. MC's stay on the middle of the road because that is the safest part on the road for them. Kung didikit ka sa kanila talagang risky yun. It is you who's putting on the risk. You blow your horn because you want them to move aside so you can pass them. Maybe you envy them because while your stuck in traffic they just whiz pass by you. [B]kakainggit di ba?? [/B] Anyway that's why there's an MC organization fighting for the end to the illegal ban of MC's on expressways. These roads are according to international studies the most safest road for MC's..only in the philippines are MC's ban on expressways. Ohter countries even promote their use on expressways. Laid back talaga ang pilipinas..kawawa naman..tayo!!!!

[falken]

AFAIK, motorcycles 400cc. and above are allowed on the tollways.

[ILuvDetailing]

Motorcycles are registered vehicles. To be registered owners are required to pay fees and road users tax. I think its their right to share the roads with cars. MC's stay on the middle of the road because that is the safest part on the road for them. Kung didikit ka sa kanila talagang risky yun. It is you who's putting on the risk. You blow your horn because you want them to move aside so you can pass them. Maybe you envy them because while your stuck in traffic they just whiz pass by you. kakainggit di ba?? Anyway that's why there's an MC organization fighting for the end to the illegal ban of MC's on expressways. These roads are according to international studies the most safest road for MC's..only in the philippines are MC's ban on expressways. Ohter countries even promote their use on expressways. Laid back talaga ang pilipinas..kawawa naman..tayo!!!!

Like what falken said motorcycles under 400cc is not allowed on tollways, would you risk your life and limb riding a scooter on the expressway? Bigbike ba dala mo sa expressway? If not forget about it brother, your just digging your own grave. Ano ba topspeed niyan aber? Don't put the blame on us if you drive recklessly.

And pare di kami naiingit? Bakit kami maiingit? Naiinis kami sa mga MC drivers na walang road courtesy!!! Di naman kami nag gegeneralize, what pisses me off is that even though your not at fault you shoulder the blame because you ride a bigger vehicle. Gets?

[ILuvDetailing]

And sa mga MC riding tsikoteers. Please don't accuse us of generalizing, we're just voicing out our concerns. Bawal ba mag start ng thread about abusive MC drivers? Keyword Abusive MC drivers. Thats why we have this forum, to SHARE our experiences...

[odell]

mga loko loko talaga.. tapos sasabihin sayo porket naka kotse ka lang :D hahahaha

[O!lman]

Dito ako naiinis sa umaga pag papasok sa office or kahit na uuwi na ako...siguro ako lang makakapansin kasi taga south ako...sa sucat road po ito,grabe feeling astig pa kamo...pag bubusinahan mo, mumurahin ka pa!!!! bakit ginawa ba ang mga main road para sa kanila?pasencya na po kung rude ako..nakakainis lang talaga...

Where is the keyword here?
"Keyword Abusive MC driver"
Medyo generalized yung thread kaya medyo nakapag-react ako....

Mr. Odell, Hindi po loko loko ang mga bikers....may mga mangilan-ngilan lang naman. Napakasakit mo namang magsalita!

[wasted_23]

Like what falken said motorcycles under 400cc is not allowed on tollways, would you risk your life and limb riding a scooter on the expressway? Bigbike ba dala mo sa expressway? If not forget about it brother, your just digging your own grave. Ano ba topspeed niyan aber? Don't put the blame on us if you drive recklessly.

And pare di kami naiingit? Bakit kami maiingit? Naiinis kami sa mga MC drivers na walang road courtesy!!! Di naman kami nag gegeneralize, what pisses me off is that even though your not at fault you shoulder the blame because you ride a bigger vehicle. Gets?

my skuter's topspeed is 120kph with backride, and i ride it inside the expressway. is there a problem with that? we do this because we are fighting for our rights to use the expressways. maybe you guys should try it (riding a bike)for yourselves para ndi puro kyaw-kyaw lang. at katulad ng lagi naming sinasabe, stop generalizing. mas maraming cage accidents than motorcycles, and that's a fact!

[mazdamazda]

gago yung mga motorcyle na nag lalane splitting... (driving between lanes)

ok lang sana kung stop & go traffic... or mabagal ang traffic... pero pag bumilis na ang traffic eh delikado yan...

ilan beses na ako muntikan maka bangga ng ganyan. naka tingin na ako sa side mirror ko... tapos biglang may lilitaw na lang...

sa highway rin... bibihira pa lang ako naka kita ng bikers na matino magpatakbo at hindi nag lalane split.

[mazdamazda]

my skuter's topspeed is 120kph with backride, and i ride it inside the expressway. is there a problem with that?

a nice gust of cross wind, a small debris and your scooter's visibility (to other drivers) is your problem.

[nicolodeon]

I agree with several of the posts: much like autombobile drivers, sa mga namo-motorcycle, maraming gago, pero marami din naman matino. IMHO, mas marami ang mga "gago" at irresponsable. Last night, I had an encounter with the "gagos":

I was approaching my nanay's house between 9-10pm last night. I signaled I was going left because I would be entering her driveway. Just as I had turn left, a saw from my peripheral vision single headlights approaching at fast speed. And I know they were big bikes due to the sound of the engine. So, I figured they saw me and they would slow down. These bikers did not and I almost hit one as just I was entering the driveway because he weaved in front of my car. The second bike hit my hood (I have a small dent to show for it) while the third stopped and approached me.

I rolled down my window and gave him a few choice words. Here's the third biker's reply: "Bakit, sino ka ba? Ano pakiaalam ko kung papasok ka sa bahay nyo. Nakita mo ng padating kami eh, hindi ka pa huminto." Again, I gave him a few choice words. His last reply before he left: "Tarantado ka! Pulis kami. Kapag nakita namin yang kotse mo sa EDSA, magsisisi ka." Was he a real cop? I had no way of knowing kasi he did not remove his helmet or his jacket. But he had the big belly of a cop.

My apologies to our fellow tsikoteers who are mortorcycle enthusiasts, pero I had more unpleasant encounters with bikers than pleasant ones.

[Majesty]

I cruise my Majesty scooter at the expressways (NLEX and SLEX), I sometimes cruise at about 140kph or more, wala naman problema sa mga cages na nakakasabay ko, only along those traffic Jams na ang daming tarantado na cagers pilit pang sumingit, hindi na nga kasya. And about the blind spot, kung brumbado ka na cage driver (like not using signal lights or with those stupid blue light indicators), talagang makakaaksidente ka ng either motor o kapwa cage mo. I seldom use my SUV, its crazy and a waste of time sitting in the middle of a slow moving traffic that's why I ride my scooter.

[see16]

Konting lamig, mga puso natin. IMO sa lahat ng klase ng sasakyan may mga barumbado talaga, that's the reality, pero kung tayo na mismo ang iiwas sa aksidente wala naman sigurong mamawala sa atin di ba. konting haba lang ng pasensiya mga peeps. peace