Which one is the BEST????

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 10:49 PM

Im a noob here so forgive me if i step on anyone here - no intention to do that. I just noticed, some people on this forum always associate BEST with SPEED. Do these people RACE everyday they drive on the streets? Do they constantly check 0-60 mile time or quarter mile straights?

I dont buy a car just by that alone. What about braking performance? Cornering? COMFORT? Styling? Fuel economy? Safety rating? Handling not only on dry roads but in various weather (snow, rain, dry, rough, smooth etc)? Airbags (mine has driver's passenger's and on the sides located on both seats)? ABS? Quality of materials used not only in the engine but also every thing from the interior materials (i dont like cheap shiny plastic inside) down to the screws to the sound of the door closing (i love it when i hear a solid "thud" or "thickkk" sound..not "blaggg" or "BLAGGGG")........

I also noticed that some people here are so biased about their recommendation/choices because they drive the same brand.....For some people like me, i loveeeeeeeeeeee to hear negative stuffs......i actually like reading negatives than praises that way i know what to expect from that car when i buy it (thats one reason i keep subscribing to Car&driver and not Motor trend).....that also true when i research about about electronics that i wanna buy (digital cams, projectors, etc).....i dont wanna hear praises...i mean, when i buy something, i expect good stuffs....what about the bad stuffs that WE DONT WANT?

Also, price DOES NOT mean performance and quality......did you guys know that Jaguar has one of the worst quality comparable to low-end brands?

Also, horsepower isn't everything. Remember Pirelli's ad - "power is nothing without control"......

Peace!

**GlennSter** · February 10th, 2005 10:54 PM

what threads?

what i like in this forum is that people arent so much into performance...they are mostly for efficiency.

people here are biased?are you sure you are in the right forum?people suggest their rides because that's what they drive everyday.they KNOW what they drive everyday.

no one recommends a bmw if one hasnt driven one yet.so dont expect comments about a bmw from a non-bmw owner.

guess what....pm me and ill give you the link of an automotive website that will surely fall under your comment.

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 11:07 PM

*Glennster:

I dont want you to be offended by what i said.....we may just have different views and how we look at these theads....i dont wanna name names and point to anyone since they haven't really dont anything wrong...LOL....

people suggest their rides because that's what they drive everyday.they KNOW what they drive everyday.

I know what you're sayin - but it just sound so biased especially when you read reviews on threads that compare 2 or more cars...then they all come down to accelaration times, horsepower and design.

I mean, a car can be faster but doesn't mean its better... and you just dont know how scary to drive that particular car...Just my thought.

**GlennSter** · February 10th, 2005 11:21 PM

oh no no...i am not offended dude....i am just surprised =))

i myself hate biased people....thats why i hang out more often here..it's because i find tsikoteers more objective than anyone else.

i agree with you that a car can be faster, but doesnt mean it's better. "better" in itself will be SUBJECTIVE (maybe thats the so-called "bias")....

labo sagot ko ah.

**the_wildthing** · February 10th, 2005 11:28 PM

Sorry ha... pero yung comment sounds like it's for another board... I tried reading some of the threads in the first page of the Car Comparisons section. Very few comment on speed alone.

And yeah, most people here will comment based on what they drive, because that's what they know, unlike some other boards where they base comments on second hand information. If I wanted that I'd pick up a magazine.

**ILuvDetailing** · February 10th, 2005 11:29 PM

Dude they recommend their rides because it served them well for years, it may be biased but would you recommend something you haven't driven or owned? If you searched this forum you may also find some threads regarding nightmare stories about certain car brands. AFAIK most of the people here want a car that is efficient, a car that serves their purpose, not necessarily the fastest hence the large number of Diesel Club members, am not a member though.

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 11:30 PM

Im sure most people here are sensible thats why i said "some"....great site btw.

**GlennSter** · February 10th, 2005 11:30 PM

ill give you the other sites if you want...cant post it here...got some friends there eh...herhehrehr

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 11:44 PM

Dude they recommend their rides because it served them well for years, it may be biased but would you recommend something you haven't driven or owned? If you searched this forum you may also find some threads regarding nightmare stories about certain car brands.

I gotcha man. I owned several cars in the past (i change 2 years or less on average)...i also drove back there in manila during my h.s. and college years and i can tell you a lot of bad things about each car i had. Only thing i observed not only here at tsikot but people in general is, there's two kinds of car owner. One who loves his car be it good or bad (these people only say good things about their cars)....and the other, who could say bad things about his car if its bad (i belong to this group)...I guess its pinoy culture (correct me if im wrong) not to say bad things about current rides....or maybe to some.....their car is an extension of their ego (again, i might be wrong)..

AFAIK most of the people here want a car that is efficient, a car that serves their purpose, not necessarily the fastest hence the large number of Diesel Club members, am not a member though.

Thanks man. Never owned a diesel before (was planning to get a Jetta TDI for my wife but its hard to find a gas station here that sells diesel) thats why i dont and never bothered reading at diesel-forum.

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 11:47 PM

*glennster:

ill give you the other sites if you want...cant post it here

Sure...that be great...btw, any philippine audi and vw forum sites ? thanks pare.

**GlennSter** · February 10th, 2005 11:52 PM

check you pm =)

**ILuvDetailing** · February 10th, 2005 11:57 PM

I owned several cars in the past (i change 2 years or less on average)...

Woah... How many Kms/Miles do you average in a year?

AFAIK the VW Club of the Phil has a forum not sure about Audi, I just forgot the URL. Maybe Glennster knows it...

**airshaq20** · February 10th, 2005 11:59 PM

Thanks Glenn. Got it. Imma check it out in a bit...its 10am and need to grab somethin to eat. Hehehe.

**marv0083** · February 11th, 2005 12:00 AM

airshaq20 regarding the acceleration

for me its important because it is for overtaking

di ka mabibitin thats why we ask

**airshaq20** · February 11th, 2005 12:02 AM

Woah... How many Kms/Miles do you average in a year?

AFAIK the VW Club of the Phil has a forum not sure about Audi, I just forgot the URL. Maybe Glennster knows it...

Right now, i drive approximately 17,000 miles a year (my wife drives her car more) - average here is 15T miles. Back when i lived in vancouver 13-15,000 KM (average there is 25T km according to a dealer i spoke to)...back in Manila, about 10T km.

BTW, which audi models and which vw models do they locally sell there?

**airshaq20** · February 11th, 2005 12:06 AM

airshaq20 regarding the acceleration

for me its important because it is for overtaking

di ka mabibitin thats why we ask

Yeah, i just realized that the phil govt heavily tax automobiles and they encourage people to buy less than 2 liter engine. Its not really a problem here since its cheaper here.

**ILuvDetailing** · February 11th, 2005 12:10 AM

Right now, i drive approximately 17,000 miles a year (my wife drives her car more)

Thats a lot of miles... Well I average around 10K - 12K Kms/Year.

BTW, which audi models and which vw models do they locally sell there?

For the VW:
Beetle
Beetle Cabriolet (havn't seen one on the road)
Caravelle
Touareg

For the Audi:
A4
A6
A8
TT

This info is Based on the "C" Mag.

**ILuvDetailing** · February 11th, 2005 12:13 AM

Its not really a problem here since its cheaper here.

I heard that you can lease the car and return it after x number of years. How does that work? Sana may ganon dito but thats wishfull thinking

**airshaq20** · February 11th, 2005 12:32 AM

For the VW:
Beetle
Beetle Cabriolet (havn't seen one on the road)
Caravelle
Touareg

For the Audi:
A4
A6
A8
TT

how much do they sell the TT and the Touareg there? I think the base touareg cost about $33T here - am thinking of getting one when i get rid of my Caravan. Cheapest time to buy cars here is between Oct to December. September is when they release new models. So on Sept 2004, they will release 2005 models and they get rid of those new 2004 with big discounts. Sometimes with zero interest for up to 60 months (depending on the model).

**ILuvDetailing** · February 11th, 2005 12:36 AM

Oh... thanks for the explanation. Ok sana yan dito pero wala namang tax refunds dito hehehe.

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