Digital Odometer Tampering [Merged]

[thebest]

Is it possible to reverse mileage on digital odometers? I heard kaya daw sa banawe?

[OTEP]

Yes, with the right equipment.

[Autobeat]

Yes, I heard these can and have been tampered by some sellers. If the seller/owner could not provide the warranty booklet that supports the current odometer reading, then that may be an indicator of a possible tampering of the odometer. Then again, they could also have just lost the booklet.

[wildthing]

the tool is too advance and it is not too worth it sa atin...IMO hindi naman binabase ang selling price ng second hand na oto because of the odometer reading e.

besides, you can always just buy a 2nd hand low milelage odometer sa suking surplusan and replace your high milelage odometer is easier di ba.

[ronald_m]

It cost around $600.ONce in a while i can find this on ebay.com

[Red Bureau]

I just experienced some sort of cheating the odometer reading by cutting the electrical wire or connection. Once I test-drove a nissan patrol, I noticed that the odometer is not registering the mileage, so I asked the SA about this who just placed what I think was a fuse and voila! the odometer is back.

[hellboy]

Hello to all tsikoteers and 4x4 guru:

may napansin ako mga nissan patrol year 2003,2004 na binebenta ng mga car exchange with digital odometer and an unbelievable low mileage considering they are 3 to 4 years old.

alam ko yung analog meter kaya pitikin ng mga mekaniko para palabasin na mababa and mileage. How about the digital one, can they do it also????

hellboy(mike)

[larshell]

Yes they can! Marami gumgawa nyan sa Banawe.

[claRkEnt]

one of the first thing they do sa mga traders na ganyan.

[chronophile]

That's why the entire package should be examined when looking at pre-owned vehicles - body, under chassis, engine bay, etc., and not just the odometer reading. All these elements should be consistent with no single element sticking out like a sore thumb. More importantly, casa service records are your best bet in making sense of the odometer reading of the vehicle. As always, caveat emptor!

[boybi]

Some car traders have a device that can alter the odometer reading of cars equipped with digital odometers to increase the resale value of their cars. And some shops or individuals also have a similar device that offers to alter the odometer reading for a fee (I've heard it costs somewhere from 4K up to 10K).

[niky]

Never look at the odometer.

Always listen to the engine. The engine cannot lie.

[LexTer]

Some car traders have a device that can alter the odometer reading of cars equipped with digital odometers to increase the resale value of their cars. And some shops or individuals also have a similar device that offers to alter the odometer reading for a fee (I've heard it costs somewhere from 4K up to 10K).

sir ang alam ko nasa 1,500 ang paurong ng digital na odo. may gumagawa kasi nyan sa carfair sa sta. lucia grandmall. minsang umikot-ikot ako dun nahuli ko mismo. grrrrrrrr. tinanong ko na lang. kunwari interesado ako. pero uzi lang. hehehehe. sa casa na te-trace pa rin nila orig na odo yata.

[OTEP]

How low was the mileage and what is the general condition of the vehicle.

Nissan Patrols are usually part of multi-vehicle families and may have not been used as a daily driver.

[onedayoldchick]

pwedi din ba gawin basehan brake and gas pedal kung medyo pudpod na goma?

[hellboy]

How low was the mileage and what is the general condition of the vehicle.

Nissan Patrols are usually part of multi-vehicle families and may have not been used as a daily driver.

Sir Otep:

The unit had an odo reading of just 40+tkm,engine bay is clean(detailed), inside upholstery had been clean, but the gas and brake pedal had been change to aftermarket one.(I think the orig one rubber was worn out na!!)a set of new tires.

My doubt on this unit is why after only 40+tkm, you have to change the pedals and tires??and the seller can't show me the casa record!!

hellboy

[userfriendly]

pwedi din ba gawin basehan brake and gas pedal kung medyo pudpod na goma?

No those parts are easily changed. Like Niky said trust the engine it does not lie. And always have a competent mechanic check the car.

[Gumusut_Amige]

Sir Otep:

The unit had an odo reading of just 40+tkm,engine bay is clean(detailed), inside upholstery had been clean, but the gas and brake pedal had been change to aftermarket one.(I think the orig one rubber was worn out na!!)a set of new tires.

My doubt on this unit is why after only 40+tkm, you have to change the pedals and tires??and the seller can't show me the casa record!!

hellboy

at only 40km+ without the casa record hhhmmmm... something fishy out there. sa odo reading for normal drive shall equate to at least 2-yr old+ car, sabi nga ng mga car gurus... don't rely on the odo reading but on the engine itself!

[BlueBimmer]

alamin mo muna kung yung previous owner ng mga patrol na yan may maraming sasakyan, kasi kung ganyan ibig sabihin bihira lang nga talaga gamitin yan.

pero kung 1 or 2 lang sasakyan nila incl. the patrol e labo nga ng mileage na yan

[OTEP]

I have an '02 with 58k on the clock during the time of acquisition earlier this year. So finding an '03 or '04 with 40k is not impossible. My brother drives his car less than 10,000kms a year also. We sold it after 4 years with barely 20k.

If it has aftermarket metal pedals, chances are the original pedals are just under them. You don't have to remove the originals when installing aftermarket pedals. Some people install them for the 'look' (e.g. my brother put metal pedals the day he got the vehicle from the dealer). When I sold my Pajero, I removed the metal pedals to expose the unused rubber pedals. Lesson: don't trust the pedals. hehehe.

That model of Nissan Patrol wore H/T tires as OEM. Reading around here at the forums, you'd see that it's pretty normal for some people to swap in better tires even just days after buying the vehicle. My rig was also refitted with OEM-size all-terrain tires by the previous owner. So it's pretty hard to trust the tires also.

You can always ask 'em where the unit was serviced if you need to get a detailed record. But in my case, the previous owner stopped visiting the casa at 50,000kms. and even I don't bring it to the casa anymore (I write down my own service record).

It's hard to assess the unit without actually seeing it. If you have doubts about that particular unit, just shop around to see how an average Patrol of that year model looks like. When I shopped around, it was pretty amazing that a lot of them were indeed in pristine condition. I did encounter an '04 in really bad shape. Body, engine, and interior were all in need of repair...