What happend to proton yun malaysian car

[oliver1013]

Diba dati may kasabayan yung KIA at Hyundai na new player yung Proton. May car sila na wira mukang lancer na may ilaw ng Galant sa likod? Umasenso na ang hyundai at Kia pero sila parang nawala? ANg alam ko dati ka tie up nila ang mitsu kaya kahawig nung wira yung lancer.

[OTEP]

They are still alive in their Malaysian home market but with lots of help from the government.

[Automahn]

Diba dati may kasabayan yung KIA at Hyundai na new player yung Proton. May car sila na wira mukang lancer na may ilaw ng Galant sa likod? Umasenso na ang hyundai at Kia pero sila parang nawala? ANg alam ko dati ka tie up nila ang mitsu kaya kahawig nung wira yung lancer.

Lancer talaga siya, rebadged nga lang. Unfortunately, di siya nagclick. Muntik na kaming kumuha niyan kaso lumabas yung EK Civic kaya si Civic ang nakatuluyan ko.:inlove:

[niky]

Hard for them to stay competitive here, as I don't think they're really pushing their LHD cars that much now.

Protons are still sold in various RHD markets, like the UK, and uh...............












....darn, I can't think of where else they're selling them...

IMHO, Proton really took a nosedive when they switched from Japanese components to local (Malaysian) components. So instead of having a pretty good Lancer rebadge, like most Koreans were doing with Mazdas, Opels (well, that didn't work well, either) and the like, they ended up with cars with components of dubious quality.

The last totally new car I've heard of from then was the Gen.2, but from all reports, it's not very competitive... but it looks good.

[AG4]

Diba dati may kasabayan yung KIA at Hyundai na new player yung Proton. May car sila na wira mukang lancer na may ilaw ng Galant sa likod? Umasenso na ang hyundai at Kia pero sila parang nawala?

Why?
Number one, you need to do one hell of a marketing campaign to sell a Malaysian car in the RP... and that was not the strongest point of their local distributor...
Proton Pilipinas Corporation later became [SIZE=3]Auto Prominence Corp.[/SIZE] in 1998.

Nothing seems to go right when they are involved.
companies don't want to renew contracts, they have poor marketing, poor service etc.
They lost Proton
They lost Alfa Romeo
They lost Audi to PGA Cars as the official distributor/dealer.

VW is a big "?" now
Nexus... haven't seen a single one yet, will they last?


*Proton Pilipinas Corp became Auto Prominence Corp when they dropped the Proton brand due to poor sales(and zero marketing.)
Audi didn't want to be associated with the malaysian car maker.
"Audi distributed by Proton Pilipinas...."

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Here are the 2 latest models from Proton:
the Gen2 launched in 2004... (poor man's Mazda 3)


...and the Savvy (2005)

[isketi]

Feature for feature mas lamang nun yung Wira kaysa dun sa Lancer itlog model tapos mas mura pa. Mukhang promising yung Proton nun, todo suporta pa yung admin ni FVR. Dahil dun, nakakuha pa sila ng deal para makapagpatayo ng assembly plant sa Alaminos, Pangasinan na homeprovince ni FVR. Yun nga lang, di talaga bumenta sa mga Pinoy yung tsikot na yun.

[kmo]

well the last time na i went to malaysia, maraming proton dun ! yan nga yung gen 2 it looks good in my opinion medyo mahal nga lang ! converted lalabas mga 680k ata e malapit na sa mazda3 price

and yeah kaya rin nawala dito ang proton alfa romeo at soon to be VW dahil sa management ng auto prominence which really sucks in advertising their cars ! kaya naman bumenta e wala lang ata silang pakialam talaga !

well yung casa at service center ng proton/alfa romeo is still open in edsa

[basti08]

e, yun nga yun eh... Lancer sya basically... so, siguro inisip na lang ng mga buyers na Lancer na lang ang bilhin.

[carlocaraddict]

They even built a plant here and after a short time, wala din, they closed it. The plant is located near our home town in Pangasinan.

The Proton Wira Aeroback looks great to me when it was sold here. In their homeland, they even sold the Perdana saloon, which is based on the Mitsubishi Eterna.

Mitsubishi Eterna




Proton Perdana


i heard a funny chizmax recently about this. When they were still selling the Wira here, the SA's from Proton are telling their customers that they can service their Wira's in any Mitsu dealers. Pagdating sa mga Mitsu dealers, hindi sila inaccept dun for servicing. Thats chizmax lang naman hehhee.

[badkuk]

isn't there another local indonesian car brand competing with proton? i read a feature on this nto so long ago, comparing the two companies.

[carlocaraddict]

isn't there another local indonesian car brand competing with proton? i read a feature on this nto so long ago, comparing the two companies.

are you talking about the "TIMOR"? they assemble Kia based car. The last time I heard about this Indonesian car manufacturer was they were assembling Kia Sephia based Timor cars. Then my friend who studied in Jakarta told me that there was a time some protesters burned these cars for some reason.

[badkuk]

hmmm, parang hindi timor ung name e...or maybe they changed it after that mess with east timor

[basti08]

yung planta na yun sa Alaminos as i remember sa isa pang Forum...ay malaking scam...

di lang ata Proton naloko dun pati ata Audi at Volks.

[fakesaint]

e, yun nga yun eh... Lancer sya basically... so, siguro inisip na lang ng mga buyers na Lancer na lang ang bilhin.

hehe, good point

maybe they were thinking na baka makalusot lang naman, like yung daewoo na ngayon with the chevrolet optra(daming benta).

but do the analogy
cielo:optra
wira:lancer

LANCER nko huhh...

[basti08]

actually

Nubira=Optra

what differs between Optra and the Wira is that the former isnt sold when Daewoo was still around. with the Wira, it even competed for sales against the Lancer. ;)

[coiter]

isn't there another local indonesian car brand competing with proton? i read a feature on this nto so long ago, comparing the two companies.

baka ito yung ssangyong which assembled the musso and mb100.

regarding the wira, ang alam ko ginamit pangrally yung liftback version as part of their marketing campaign. nadisplay pa nga yun sa showroom nila sa may edsa-pioneer. ang mali din kasi nila e yung price. di sya ganun kacompetitive considering its brand. pero personally it looked better than the lancer at that time. especially the liftback version.

[carlocaraddict]

I often see Proton Wiras with Mitsubishi Lancer Itlog front fascia assembly. Also, there are a couple of Wira taxis plying around the Metro. Do they still have that service center in Guadalupe?

[carlocaraddict]

baka ito yung ssangyong which assembled the musso and mb100.

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Ssangyong is a Korean Automobile manufacturer

[carlocaraddict]

They lost Proton
They lost Alfa Romeo
They lost Audi to PGA Cars as the official distributor/dealer.

They even lost Tata motors of India. They sold here those Indian assembled SUV's that looked like a Mercedes Benz G-wagen (sort of). Yan yung may malaking "T" sa grill heheheh.

[alwayz_yummy]

alam ko may brand na TATA pero pick-ups un kanila..

aamin ako, nung tumingin ako ng wira, like a hatch..like to have one as project car, siguro wala namng 50 thou mga preowed nyan.. then project car, 4g63t! and lancer itlog/evo3 look...

alam ko my nilabas silang turbo variant..1.8L turbo! di ko lang alam kung hatch or sa sedan...

nga pala, may corner lamps pa pala ito!