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    #21
    Here's one car that can do 4,758.6335 kilometers per liter

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...mpQandA10.html

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    #22
    My brother in law from Shell said they had a plant tour sa toyota a couple of weeks/months back and there was a Prius on hand... Di nila mastart hehe, it took several "experts" to check on it before they got it starting again.

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    #23
    BMW 530d gets around 12-14km/L daw sa motioncars test. i guess if you drove on the autobahn from Germany to Austria it would exceed 20km/L kasi straight na straight yun with no traffic.

  4. #24
    Euro Diesel Engines are the best, IMHO.

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    #25
    i've been thinking lang. actually, depende kasi yan. sure ang mga sub-liter engine would be ok kkung extra urban ang driving. however, that means na kung sub-liter ka, less horsepower per liter. unlike those gargantuan engines (3L to infinty), malakas lang naman yang mga yan sa gas dahil sa traffic dahil laki ng displacement. pero sa horsepower e lamang ka talaga.

    moreover, ke sub-liter or gargantuan engine ang dala mo, pag na-traffic, 0km/L ka pa rin.

    if i were to choose, i'll get the larger displacement para hindi sya hirap lalo na kapag may mga karga. :D

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    #26
    how bout hydrid cars? kelan lalabas dito sa pinas?

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    #27
    Nandito nga ang Prius... pero it may take a few years of testing before it can successfully be released on a commercial basis.

    theveed, any word on the status of the prius and feasibility?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #28
    wala, pero irerelease daw... if they can find enough people who knows how it works hehe. Imagine kung nashort mo to during a jump start, byebye half of the engine, o kaya nalublob sa baha... zzzzaaap! hehe.

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    #29
    LOL! Puede ka yatang mag-jumper ng bus galing sa batt noon... :D

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #30
    Originally posted by niky
    Well, mas practical siya in terms of fuel economy versus almost anything else... Average ko is around 14-17 km/l in mixed mode (depending on traffic.)

    Andaya ng Insight... most of its economy is from its light weight and small size... the Prius has similar numbers BUT can carry more people and do more things, has better acceleration and acts just like a normal road car. The Insight is a publicity gimmick, the Prius and the Honda Civic Hybrid are the real things.
    Yup i agree the insight is a waste, thats why it never sold very well copared to Prius and the Hybrid Civic.

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    #31
    May nabasa akong article about Phillippine Oil Companies upgrading diesel fuel quality to be environmental-friendly like those diesel used in the US and European countries. These oil companies are pressured by certain groups to implement the upgrade to help keep the air clean. But in return, diesel would cost the same with Gasoline or maybe even more. I wonder if it is the reason why diesel fuel have increased a couple of times without any increase in gasoline. If isn't the reason, then probably this will be implemented in the next 3-5 years.

    I'll look for that article again. I'll post the article if I could find it.

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    #32
    Originally posted by ian_rex
    moreover, ke sub-liter or gargantuan engine ang dala mo, pag na-traffic, 0km/L ka pa rin.
    but sir ian_rex, remember that at idle a gargantuan engine will relatively still eat up more fuel because of the bigger displacement than a sub-liter which wont waste that much during idling simply because of its small capacity... di po ba?
    Last edited by RafRaf; October 14th, 2004 at 11:41 AM.

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    #33
    Originally posted by cyberdoc95
    May nabasa akong article about Phillippine Oil Companies upgrading diesel fuel quality to be environmental-friendly like those diesel used in the US and European countries. These oil companies are pressured by certain groups to implement the upgrade to help keep the air clean. But in return, diesel would cost the same with Gasoline or maybe even more. I wonder if it is the reason why diesel fuel have increased a couple of times without any increase in gasoline. If isn't the reason, then probably this will be implemented in the next 3-5 years.

    I'll look for that article again. I'll post the article if I could find it.
    this has already been implemented. diesel here only contains 0.05% sulfur to comply with the Clean Air Act.

    heck, the diesel fuel quality here in the Philippines is even better as that of the US (but not as good as that of Europe's).

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    #34
    Originally posted by mazdamazda
    this has already been implemented. diesel here only contains 0.05% sulfur to comply with the Clean Air Act.

    heck, the diesel fuel quality here in the Philippines is even better as that of the US (but not as good as that of Europe's).
    Mazdamazda,

    There's nothing to be sarcastic about. I just read it from an article. I apologize for not knowing that Philippine diesel is better (per MAZDAMAZDA) than the US coz only a fraction of vehicles use diesel in here except for big rigs, RV's and boats. Even now with significant price increase over there, I still get gasoline-powered engines on my line of vehicles in my hometown in Davao because its just my preference.(Don't want to add anymore pollution from the heavy smoke-belching buses and jeepneys).

    But I wonder why that article was written that way. It even mentioned about latest european diesel engine technology to be far from being used to vehicles in the Philippines because of the diesel fuel quality.

    I'm actually browsing to look for that article. I've read it about a month or two ago on an online Philippine newspaper.
    Last edited by cyberdoc95; October 14th, 2004 at 11:38 AM.

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    #35
    what if there was a diesel variant for the likes of the compact cars (jazz, picanto, colt, aveo, etc)?

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    #36
    They have diesel variants for almost everything in Europe... though Honda is not known for building diesel engines, even the Civic has a 1.7d variant over there.

    1.3 liter and smaller displacement diesels are becoming more common. And it's a good idea... same HP as 1.3 gas, with more torque... makes driving more enjoyable.

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