Ford Everest 2015

[minicarph]

Wala naman difference ang load if people and luggages lang nakasakay sa fuel consumption.

The problem of bad FC is underchassis and engine problems, a loose stsbilizer link, wornout bushings / rubbers, nag-leak na ahock absorber, imbalanced tires o may tama isa or dalawang tire, not properly maintsined engine,


In this case, it's all new. So 10km/liter na pinakamataas nyan na ma-achieve, I think it will normalize to 8km/liter as it ages. Anyway it's a 3.2 naman pala. Pero ang gas guzzler nyan for a mid-suv diesel body.


A pajero Bk average 8-10km/liter sa marcos highway zigzag on the trip meter. It's 3.2 too pero it's big body and also 4x4.

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Manual mode / Sports mode dont contribute to FC savings, it's just put there when you get bored and do something on a boring long drive, I use this when I get sleepy.

[Calistro]

With all the criticisms you're throwing around the forum, OB, I'm curious what SUV would you buy if you needed one now.

[minicarph]

The best way kase to inform people here is to admit what SUVs are. suv underchassis technology never had a revolutionary change throughout the years. When it comes to suspension system, there are 2 popular ones: strut (mchpeherson) and independent wishbone. And then there's the much improved self-leveling system (also a enhanced wishbone) used by German Suvs and Hyundias/ Kias

So i cannot comprehend how each iteration / or new model of say an Everest / Montero would have mountains of improvements sa FC over its precedecessors.

In larshell's, i didnt know it's a 3.2. A pajero 3.2 averages 8-10km/ liter. So maybe it's safe to assume that all 3.2 regardless of manufscturer will fall to that 8-10km figure.

2.2's on the other hand will fall to +2 to +3. That's why most Forts and Montys today are averaging 11 to 12km/ liter highway long drive.

A batch of 2.0 to 2.2s are crossovers meaning carlike softer suspension systems, meaning lighter metals than ladder frames. And these are the santa fes and the tucsons, sorento. And they average 13-15km liter.

Kaya Kahit ano pa gawin review dyan 2 years from, 5 years from, kung walang revolutionary change sa suspension technology, FC will always be

13-15km / liter for 2.0 to 2.2 cross overs
11-12 km/liter for 2.2 to 2.5 ladder frames
8-10km S liter for 3.2 ladder frames

Regardless of car manufscturers. Manufacturers just use those patented Suspensions systems since year 90s or later. The same way as New Chinese cars are affording royalties on them


Actually, the lesson has been existing since decade ago, how come a Jimny with a small body and small engine only averages 6 to 8km, eh kasi nga same concept suspension and heavy metal as our existing pickup based Suvs.



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Regarding the question what SUV i will buy

If gssoline, Id buy HRV or Juke
If diesel, id buy New Tucson CRDi

Why? Diesel has no benefits talaga if you ask me. Yes you save on bumper traffic, pero diesel engines are too moody to own. Dami ka-artehan. Diesel engines require 3sm batteries which are 8k / unit which last only 2 years. And us being du,ping grounds of dirty diesel, kawawa lang talaga engine mo. And you pollute the environment too. And of coursem driving ladder frame in bumper traffic, it's like bringing a desktop to a hotel event, where everyone else has a laptop

It's an illusion. The usefulness of diesel is you will haul a big family all the time. As in everyday. That's why PUvs use it.

[glenn manikis]

Ang lakas kaya nyan, bicol run yan eh. Sants fe ko manila-manoag-manila 500++ km half full tank or 35L Or 15km/liter.


My Ford Explorer V6 averages 10km/liter same run. Eh gas guzzler yun eh sa city. Ang lakas ng Everest. Ni hindi nakatulong ang mala-tren nyan itsura lol

Based sa comment mo... Parang ngayon kalang nag Ka kotse.. At Ang basis mo half tank kaya 35km/li na agad.... Sister dapat full tank method tayo at pag ganyan basis mo, suntok sa buwan yan...

10km per liter for a 3.2 in line 5-- is already good...
And Sabi din naman nya humahataw Sya.. Or lalaking lalaki mag drive..

Para Ka naman little girl mag compute ng Fuel consumption...

Maybe you also drive a girl din...

Ms. OB...

[minicarph]

Based sa comment mo... Parang ngayon kalang nag Ka kotse.. At Ang basis mo half tank kaya 35km/li na agad.... Sister dapat full tank method tayo at pag ganyan basis mo, suntok sa buwan yan...

10km per liter for a 3.2 in line 5-- is already good...
And Sabi din naman nya humahataw Sya.. Or lalaking lalaki mag drive..

Para Ka naman little girl mag compute ng Fuel consumption...

Maybe you also drive a girl din...

Ms. OB...

Pano ka ba mag-compute? pag sinabing average? Average. It doesnt mean 10km / liter every second of the day of your driving, I plus or minus mo pa yun

My full tank is 75 liters. never ko na reach mag-pa full tank ever since nabili ko car ko ng ganun, coz that means tumirik ako somewhere

Normally, I full tank at yellow light or average of 65 to 69 liters. Coz yellow light turns on when there's remaining 10liters or less in the tank.

So dun ko nakuha yun 35liters half of 69. Coz the gauge pin is at half.

Then 500 ++ km manila-manoag-manila

500++ / 35 liters - more or less 15km / liter.

I dont even need a trip computer installed in new cars today. Wala naman use yun talaga.

The best way to verify the average, is to sample to it again and again, with the output of same figure, plus or minus 15km/liter.

[jut703]

Wrong methodology.

Proper way to measure FC:

1. Fill your tank up
2. Travel
3. Fill up again
4. Divide total km traveled by total liters filled.

Relying on the gauge is highly inaccurate - the gauge doesn't update every single liter that you consume, and often cars don't have exactly the same fuel amount at half-tank. Both my Mazda 3 and Altis have 55L tanks. By half-tank, the Mazda has consumed about 28L, the Altis, 25L. 3L is significant when computing for FC.

300 km / 28L = 10.7 km/L
300 km / 25L = 12 km/L

By using the full tank method, you get the exact fuel used, as opposed to guessing based on what you think your gauge tells you.



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[Mentis]

Wait, i need to refill my popcorn 😆

[glenn manikis]

Pano ka ba mag-compute? pag sinabing average? Average. It doesnt mean 10km / liter every second of the day of your driving, I plus or minus mo pa yun

My full tank is 75 liters. never ko na reach mag-pa full tank ever since nabili ko car ko ng ganun, coz that means tumirik ako somewhere

Normally, I full tank at yellow light or average of 65 to 69 liters. Coz yellow light turns on when there's remaining 10liters or less in the tank.

So dun ko nakuha yun 35liters half of 69. Coz the gauge pin is at half.

Then 500 ++ km manila-manoag-manila

500++ / 35 liters - more or less 15km / liter.

I dont even need a trip computer installed in new cars today. Wala naman use yun talaga.

The best way to verify the average, is to sample to it again and again, with the output of same figure, plus or minus 15km/liter.

Wow!!! Galing accurate Ang galing...!!!

Yung Sakin naka 1/4 Ang nabawas..!! Balikan ko ng lucena quezon.... More or less 350kms. Tapos yung fuel tank capacity ko is 75liters-- 18.75 li Ang 1/4 tank, devide ko sa 350kms.. 18.6kms per liter din pala yung ranger ko...!!

Ngayon ko Lang nalaman ganyan pala Ang tamang computation... Parang suntok sa buwan Lang.. He he.

[minicarph]

Wow!!! Galing accurate Ang galing...!!!

Yung Sakin naka 1/4 Ang nabawas..!! Balikan ko ng lucena quezon.... More or less 350kms. Tapos yung fuel tank capacity ko is 75liters-- 18.75 li Ang 1/4 tank, devide ko sa 350kms.. 18.6kms per liter din pala yung ranger ko...!!

Ngayon ko Lang nalaman ganyan pala Ang tamang computation... Parang suntok sa buwan Lang.. He he.

Patawa naman yun 350km na 1/4. Eh di 1400km ang full tank mo. Actually may 10 liters yan so mali pa nga compute mo 21km/liter ka dapat lol dapat dinivide mo sa 65, coz most probably average 65 liters ang refill, not the whole 75 liters. Unkess sagadin mo tapos tulak sa gasolinahan

[Walter]

OB ran out of meds again.

[minicarph]

Wrong methodology.

Proper way to measure FC:

1. Fill your tank up
2. Travel
3. Fill up again
4. Divide total km traveled by total liters filled.

Relying on the gauge is highly inaccurate - the gauge doesn't update every single liter that you consume, and often cars don't have exactly the same fuel amount at half-tank. Both my Mazda 3 and Altis have 55L tanks. By half-tank, the Mazda has consumed about 28L, the Altis, 25L. 3L is significant when computing for FC.

300 km / 28L = 10.7 km/L
300 km / 25L = 12 km/L

By using the full tank method, you get the exact fuel used, as opposed to guessing based on what you think your gauge tells you.



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Akala ko divide by liters filled eh bakit dinivide mo sa maximum capacity ng fuel tank mo . Asan sa equatiion dun liters filled. Eh di ka makakarefill ng maximum capacity unless yun na nga wverytime tinuulak mo car mo sa gas station

[jut703]

Akala ko divide by liters filled eh bakit dinivide mo sa maximum capacity ng fuel tank mo . Asan sa equatiion dun liters filled. Eh di ka makakarefill ng maximum capacity unless yun na nga wverytime tinuulak mo car mo sa gas station

Saan banda ko ginamit yung maximum capacity ng tank ko? Ang lowtech mo kasi. May app naman para diyan.



Sample ha, yung most recent trip ko. I travelled 124 km tapos nagpafull tank ulit ako. Ang total na kinarga is 13.78L.

So 124 km / 13.78L = 9.00 km/L

Gets?




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[glenn manikis]

Addict ata ito Si OB....

[jentrak]

mods kindly look into this thread tingin ko kasi parang OT na usapan dito

[minicarph]

Ang labo naman, bat naging FC city na

Ang na-obtain ni Larshelll, highway driving. Papunta 9.something km/liter. Pauwi 10km/liter.

So the average 10km/liter round trip, sabi nya. Fine. Makes sense

Ako sabi ko manila-manoag-manila. Average of 15 km / liter round trip. Inulit ko ulet eto 3 times. Yun una, pa-bless ng car. Yun pangalawa, nagdasal para makapasa ang kapatid ko sa test. Yun pangatlo, nagdasal ulit kami para makapasa kapatid ko sa test kasi bagsak nun una. Same average 15km/liter. All 3 trips done in intervals of 3 to 8 months

So ang key ingredient here is round trip, yun dinaanan mo papunta, daanan mo pabalik. Same road same distance. So you get the average.

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Si glenn. One ride lang 340km pero 1/4. Ang tanong bakit nasa Manila sya ngaun? Nag-eroplano ba sya. Bakit walang data pabalik.

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Ikaw naman juts, 124km travel, san ka nagpunta?

[minicarph]

mods kindly look into this thread tingin ko kasi parang OT na usapan dito

Si juts, moderstor yan

[glenn manikis]

Ang labo naman, bat naging FC city na

Ang na-obtain ni Larshelll, highway driving. Papunta 9.something km/liter. Pauwi 10km/liter.

So the average 10km/liter round trip, sabi nya. Fine. Makes sense

Ako sabi ko manila-manoag-manila. Average of 15 km / liter round trip. Inulit ko ulet eto 3 times. Yun una, pa-bless ng car. Yun pangalawa, nagdasal para makapasa ang kapatid ko sa test. Yun pangatlo, nagdasal ulit kami para makapasa kapatid ko sa test kasi bagsak nun una. Same average 15km/liter. All 3 trips done in intervals of 3 to 8 months

So ang key ingredient here is round trip, yun dinaanan mo papunta, daanan mo pabalik. Same road same distance. So you get the average.

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Si glenn. One ride lang 340km pero 1/4. Ang tanong bakit nasa Manila sya ngaun? Nag-eroplano ba sya. Bakit walang data pabalik.

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Ikaw naman juts, 124km travel, san ka nagpunta?

Ok na OB... You're the winner here--- always naman..

Why-- kasi laging kang may tama... He he..!!

Ang ranger and everest hindi magkakalayo ng FC yan...

[minicarph]

Ok na OB... You're the winner here--- always naman..

Why-- kasi laging kang may tama... He he..!!

Ang ranger and everest hindi magkakalayo ng FC yan...

No ang winner ang ranger mo coz 18km/liter

Santa fe ko, 15km/liter

Corolla ni juts. 13km/liter

Brand new Everest ni larshell, only 10km/liter.

[larshell]

I agree with minicarph, suspension, tires and others contributes on your FC but i must say loaded vehicles can also result to bad FC. I agree also it may stay on 7-8km /lt FC after awhile basing it with my experience. mura na diesel oks na rin. [emoji1]

Crossover vs Ladder frames call me old school but i will choose ladder frames vs no frames suv. Is it called monocoque? m not sure.
I like it kasi matibay Compare to those independent suspension.
Yes matagtag pero not like this so may mali talaga rear end ng everest ko tagtag talaga gentlemen. Dyan masama ang loob ko. 1.999M pero matagtag. Other than that oks narin.

Kung gusto nyo talaga ng accurate FC kelangan load empty tank talaga and drive until engine stops then divided by na hahaha

Popcorn nga sarap na kwentuhan dito.


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[minicarph]

Tingin ko kaya matagtag yan kse 20 rims, there's less rubber on tire itself. Ang ewan ko lang ha pero sa tingin ko bigger rims contribute to higher FC. Kasi pag ang sedan, pinalitan mo ng sobra laki rims tapos tipong ganipis, na ang rubber. Tumatag-tag saka malakas sa gas din