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    Sobrang daming turbo diesel na ginagamit na PUV or super laspag daily use. Karaniwan di naman fully synthetic at hindi rin nakaturbo timer. But there's still so much of them on the road - just goes to show that if an engine is built with the right tolerance, non-enthusiasts who aren't anal about maintenance can still keep them for long periods.

    If an engine needs TLC, you probably shouldn't be putting it in a mass market car.

    People should really accept that cars are appliances and very few people tinker these days. In the same way I would buy a ref that will give the most hassle free ownership, most people will buy a car that will need the least amount of attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Sobrang daming turbo diesel na ginagamit na PUV or super laspag daily use. Karaniwan di naman fully synthetic at hindi rin nakaturbo timer. But there's still so much of them on the road - just goes to show that if an engine is built with the right tolerance, non-enthusiasts who aren't anal about maintenance can still keep them for long periods.

    If an engine needs TLC, you probably shouldn't be putting it in a mass market car.

    People should really accept that cars are appliances and very few people tinker these days. In the same way I would buy a ref that will give the most hassle free ownership, most people will buy a car that will need the least amount of attention.

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    GDI turbo engines are different compared to diesel turbo. LSPI doesn’t seem to be an issue with them.

    Di naman sobra sobrang TLC talaga nor are there any tinkering required. You just have to be a little prudent. Sasakyan mo yan eh, laki ng binayaran mo... dapat iingatan mo din. Just follow the required fluids, do it on time and it’ll be fine. SOP lang kumbaga. 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Di naman sobra sobrang TLC talaga nor are there any tinkering required. You just have to be a little prudent. Sasakyan mo yan eh, laki ng binayaran mo... dapat iingatan mo din. Just follow the required fluids, do it on time and it’ll be fine. SOP lang kumbaga. [emoji23]
    I'm assuming ginagawa mo yan pero nasabugan ka piston diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I'm assuming ginagawa mo yan pero nasabugan ka piston diba?

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    Yeah but it was hours of “enthusiatsic” driving on a pretty hot day on the highway with little rest. I doubt owners of this Ford Territory would drive the same.

    If I were driving another small turbo car, maybe a Subaru or a VW, it would’ve ended the same. LSPI are inherent with these modern turbos. The occurrence of it is purely random though.

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    i'm an ordinary driver,
    and if i need to have my car serviced or repaired at the casa because the friendly gas station or banawe can't or won't do it,
    hassle na sakin yan, and i'd think twice about buying that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Yeah but it was hours of “enthusiatsic” driving on a pretty hot day on the highway with little rest. I doubt owners of this Ford Territory would drive the same.

    If I were driving another small turbo car, maybe a Subaru or a VW, it would’ve ended the same. LSPI are inherent with these modern turbos. The occurrence of it is purely random though.
    Isang beses mo lang hindi nacool down yung turbo bumigay na kagad piston?

    Kung ganyan kaselan makina mo edi it's proof as to why so many people prefer simpler NA engines than turbo low displacement ones.

    Like how you say new tech and toys are useless on cars and a good engine is all that's important - more people care less about horsepower and turbocharging and care more about longevity, ease of maintenance, and fuel consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    If an engine needs TLC, you probably shouldn't be putting it in a mass market car.
    Something to think about...

    Sa daming features ng Territory - madaming mas mauunang masira before problemahin ng owner yung Turbo (and CVT)

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    2018 article:

    Are Small-Displacement Turbo Engines Reliable in the Long Term? | Design News

    Fisher said Toyota hasn’t adopted small-displacement turbocharged engines on its high-volume products for good reason. “Whenever you add complexity, you add potential areas of failure,” he told us. “And a turbocharged engine is more complex. It has more stuff going on than you’d have with a normally-aspirated engine.”
    Fisher contended that technologies age in different ways. “Maybe miles aren’t necessarily the issue,” he said. “When you have a 10- or 15-year-old car, you have to ask, ‘What about the seals? What about the winters, the summers? How will everything age?’”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Something to think about...

    Sa daming features ng Territory - madaming mas mauunang masira before problemahin ng owner yung Turbo
    Tulad ng alin po?

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    Just saw a different kind of Ford couple days ago, 2020 FORD GT!!!

    Ok guys, sorry, we can go back to the affordable Ford na.

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    Yung Focus 1.5L Ecoboost ng friend ko Di naman nagkaproblema sa engine nya. Same din with my old Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost.


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    Looking to get one by Sep or before the 3 year free PMS promo expires. Anyone here looking to get one also? Interested if they extend addtl cash discount, like what johnbreezy got with his Everest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Looking to get one by Sep or before the 3 year free PMS promo expires. Anyone here looking to get one also? Interested if they extend addtl cash discount, like what johnbreezy got with his Everest.
    contact chef. mukhang ok ang dealer nya

    the price is good but id rather get a high reselling T badge over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    contact chef. mukhang ok ang dealer nya

    the price is good but id rather get a high reselling T badge over this.
    Who's chef? Ngayon ko lang na encounter ang name na yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Who's chef? Ngayon ko lang na encounter ang name na yan
    si Chef John hahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodjason View Post
    Interior looks futuristic... parang pang Tron yung may ilaw sa loob... Grabe na din mag design ang mga Chinese.

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    Di na ata sya active

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Di na ata sya active
    johnbreezy bro. lurker yan hahahah

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    Just crossed my mind, what are the odds that the automatic parking system will err and hit vehicles on it's sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Just crossed my mind, what are the odds that the automatic parking system will err and hit vehicles on it's sides
    Driver control pa rin naman yata yun gas and brake


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