the REAL Truth about GOJI JUICE..tsk tsk...

[ghosthunter]

For the same therapeutic effects of the juice, drinking daily of green tea has the same effects and costs much much less as well.

Of course no one would be publishing and pushing that particular fact (on internet forums) since there is no profit in it for Goji juice promoters.

But since Goji juice works for you, good for you.

[ghosthunter]

It is really best to get information from the other side of the proverbial fence.

This is to balance out what seems to be a "miracle" product able to cure anything and everything that ails you.

http://goji.breathe.org/

Of course, if Goji juice works for you, then good for you.

[pinoyaco]

Kumusta na si Jun Kintanar ng Forever Living :D

No idea. Di ko siya kilala e.

So... your relatives are getting rich off of Goji, and we're supposed to believe their testimonials? That's a bit of a big leap of faith you're asking us to take.

The only person I've mentioned so far who got rich off Goji is my sister's ex. I didn't mention any rich relative there. And no, I'm not asking anyone of you to take that hugeass leap of faith. Why would I ask anything of you, let alone faith, yeah?

Instead of talking to Cora Co... I think we'd be more interested in seeing her medical history and actually talking to her doctor. What's his name, his license number and where does he work? A fair number of doctors actually log onto tsikot and can verify your mother's medical history with a few phone calls.

My mom's only doctor is the one who helped her give birth to us. ^_^ I remember him as Dr. Calalang. He has his own hospital. I'm quite certain your doctor friends can find out his information as few doctors have their own hospitals.

it's a freaking fruit juice i drink calamansi juice everyday the pain is gone! i buy real calamansi from the grocery a small plastic bag of calamansi cost less than P20

Then good for you.

For the same therapeutic effects of the juice, drinking daily of green tea has the same effects and costs much much less as well. Of course no one would be publishing and pushing that particular fact (on internet forums) since there is no profit in it for Goji juice promoters. But since Goji juice works for you, good for you.

Well, there would be profit for green tea marketers, yeah? So they're free to publish and push said alleged fact. No one is stopping them, just as no one is stopping the Goji juice promoters. As you have mentioned it again, thank you.

It is really best to get information from the other side of the proverbial fence. This is to balance out what seems to be a "miracle" product able to cure anything and everything that ails you. http://goji.breathe.org/ Of course, if Goji juice works for you, then good for you.

Erm... wouldn't the other side of the proverbial fence be different from the side that started it all? Just stating. XD Again, as I have reiterated - it's rather unfair to dismiss something without trying it yourself or proving it to yourself otherwise. Why listen when you can think for yourself, yeah? If one is willing to listen to one side, one must be willing to listen to the other as well. It's only fair, and it's what I was looking for when I replied here.

[safeorigin]

testimonials are too subjective. it's more credible to rely on clinical trials or independent testing. perhaps a scientific journal would be even better.

[niky]

What's the full name of the doctor that handled your "Tita's" case? And what's your Tita's name? I mixed her up with your mother, I didn't realize you were talking about two different people.

That's actually the proof we would like to look into.

It's one thing to sell health supplements.

It's quite another to make spectacular claims that cannot be supported by scientific study or verified as true.

I've seen relatives falling for claims of one "miracle" juice or another... only to quit buying after a few months, realizing it does nothing for them. And it's no joke to these people, who have to spend thousands a month on medicine just to stay alive.

[pinoyaco]

testimonials are too subjective. it's more credible to rely on clinical trials or independent testing. perhaps a scientific journal would be even better.

I agree. However, which do we believe - the objectivity of science, or the words and experiences of those close to us who have tried a product or service? That's why commercials work - we hear testimonials from famous people and the "common" people attesting to the product or service. Appeal to emotion, stemming from testimonial, works better than appeal to logic.

A scientific journal would be better for an objective thinker. And while many profess to be objective, not everyone actually is. I myself have doubts on certain products and services, and I read reports and articles about them, but in the end, I draw a conclusion based on what I have experienced myself. I can only really say "Ah, it works" or "Nah, lying liar is lying" once I've tried myself.

What's the full name of the doctor that handled your "Tita's" case? And what's your Tita's name? I mixed her up with your mother, I didn't realize you were talking about two different people.

That's actually the proof we would like to look into.

Ah, I understand. Mix-ups can be easy to make.

You are asking for proof, yeah? I suggest you call our house and ask for my mother. I've given more than enough personal information in a public forum, so if you wish to continue your investigation (and really, I don't mind), just call the landline.

It's one thing to sell health supplements.

It's quite another to make spectacular claims that cannot be supported by scientific study or verified as true.

I've seen relatives falling for claims of one "miracle" juice or another... only to quit buying after a few months, realizing it does nothing for them. And it's no joke to these people, who have to spend thousands a month on medicine just to stay alive.

Again, I am not selling anything. -_-" Is it so hard to understand that I just wish to air a side that's never aired in this post for fairness? Read back - all of you just agreed with each other after the first post. Where's the discussion when you just posted one after the other to say "thanks for showing us the truth, you're right" in different words? So yes, this thread had died - but that has yet to stop me from airing a side when I think that it's quite untouched.

Also, nowhere did I claim anything scientific-wise - I just posted what happened to me, my Papa, my Tita, and my sister's ex. I even mentioned that I don't buy those claims because I prefer seeing for myself. As for verification, again, call my mother. Have a one-on-one with her - she's chatty.

Spending for our own health is never a joke. There's a reason the pharmaceutical companies earn a lot, yeah?

[s_quilicot]

Goji juice? from FreeLife international? haaay laki pagod namin jan dati.

May nakita ako nyan sa servitek fairview for 2;+ each. member parin til now yung may-ari.

[uls]

again, it's a freaking fruit juice

the guy goes out of his way to defend a fruit juice

why the hell would anyone go out of his way to defend a fruit juice?!

[Tailhook]

goji juice, mangosteen, jim's coffee, diabetrol, iridology, noni juice, redjuice, liveraide (insert any other overpriced 'no therapeutic claims' quack remedy in the market today), etc..... are some examples of proof that:

- a sucker is born every minute
- the placebo effect
- man's greed will always prevail over his compassion for his fellow man
- celebrity endorsers are morons
- some doctors have no scruples or principles by endorsing these products
- etc, etc, etc.

[boybi]

If this goji juice is as good as it claims, why not go to hospitals, especially government run hospitals, and give the juice to the terminal patients and let them take it for a few months for free. Kung gumaling lahat ng mga patients dun e di naka libre na kayo sa mga marketing laway nyo.

[LadyRider]

As for a diabetic like me, I have been hearing a lot of drink this and that, eat this and that...

But the real culprit to our poor health starts from our lifestyle, diet, and poor eating habits lalu na sa mga kinakain natin ngayon!

Eating the right kind of food especially fresh fruits and vegetables are the best for detoxification according to a lot of doctors!

There is a formula pa nga for a shake na talagang very effective.... Mix 4 different types of fresh fruits and 4 different types vegetables in a shake, drink it with an empty stomach for detox. Mapait ng kaunti but very healthy for you!

[niky]

You are asking for proof, yeah? I suggest you call our house and ask for my mother. I've given more than enough personal information in a public forum, so if you wish to continue your investigation (and really, I don't mind), just call the landline.

Nope. I don't actually want to call to receive the testimonial and sales pitch. All I want is the names, thank you.

[vinrem]

Goji juice, ice tea in a bottle, those medicine commercial makikita mo tv, same lang lahat yan, they claim this and that, but the best way pa rin ay baguhin natin ang poor lifestyle natin and the best way pa rin ay natural...i mean if you want to have a good health, instead drinking ice tea or powdered tea, gumamit ka talaga ng tea na leaves what chinese or japs do, you want juice, buy ka totoong orange then i juicer mo.

Goji the berry (not the juice) are being used by the chinese for quite some time now, we can buy this in dried form in any supermarket in the philippines, eto ay parang siling labuyo pag tiningnan, they use it in their soup (we use it often especially in duck soup with herbs), and also they sometimes put it in together with their tea. It has some health benefits coz if wala, then chinese people wouldnt use it, and we know chinese are a sucker for natural herbs.

[kulotz]

hmm what if padala sa lab yung goji? baka naman me ibang supplements na halo?

kasi yung mga iba tulad ng liveraide, oo wala silang claim na gagaling ka pero me parang pang asist siya na pampagaling meron sa iba aandar sa iba hindi.

So baka malay natin itong goji na ito ay me supplements pang assist

just to clarify po hindi ako sumaside kahit kanino hehe:P

[kulotz]

Goji juice, ice tea in a bottle, those medicine commercial makikita mo tv, same lang lahat yan, they claim this and that, but the best way pa rin ay baguhin natin ang poor lifestyle natin and the best way pa rin ay natural...i mean if you want to have a good health, instead drinking ice tea or powdered tea, gumamit ka talaga ng tea na leaves what chinese or japs do, you want juice, buy ka totoong orange then i juicer mo.

Goji the berry (not the juice) are being used by the chinese for quite some time now, we can buy this in dried form in any supermarket in the philippines, eto ay parang siling labuyo pag tiningnan, they use it in their soup (we use it often especially in duck soup with herbs), and also they sometimes put it in together with their tea. It has some health benefits coz if wala, then chinese people wouldnt use it, and we know chinese are a sucker for natural herbs.

agree ako sa taong ito

ang problema lang kasi me talagang di katrip trip na lasang tea:P

i preffer nalang na uminom ng tubig lagi water terapy ahhh haha kasi yun talga ang sa akin natural nung anjan mga taong gubat hindi naman uso ang tea eh? hehe opinion lang po

pero i believe maganda rin talaga effects ng totoong tea:P

[ghosthunter]

Erm... wouldn't the other side of the proverbial fence be different from the side that started it all? Just stating. XD

http://goji.breathe.org/

FreeLife doesn't want you to see this site...

New report BLASTS FreeLife's so-called "research"

http://goji.breathe.org/

It would be the second opinion to balance what is seemingly an overly positive view on a product. As more and more people have personally experienced, if something is too good to be true, it usually is too good to be true.

Again, as I have reiterated - it's rather unfair to dismiss something without trying it yourself or proving it to yourself otherwise.

Who am I to dismiss the educated opinions of trained medical experts with years of experience?

Aren't all medical experts also caution people to self-diagnose themselves which includes doctors and other medical experts. Personal biases might cloud proper analysis.

Yet here we are trying to say the opposite.

Why listen when you can think for yourself, yeah? If one is willing to listen to one side, one must be willing to listen to the other as well. It's only fair, and it's what I was looking for when I replied here.

And so why are you saying I shouldn't listen to the proverbial "other side" then?

http://goji.breathe.org/freelife-him...ice-secret.htm

Of course, if Goji juice works for you, then good for you.

[fourtheboys96]

kung mura lang itong goji eh lalaklak ako nito araw araw kahit na ndi sure sa benefits.

ang problema kasi sa mga ganitong produkto ay yung presyo (sobrang mahal) at kung paano siya ibinebenta (more of a pyramid scheme disguised as multi-level marketing).

multi-level marketing is legal per se. pero pag ni-require mo yung prospective agents/dealers to cash out or buy a product bago sila makasali, illegal na yun.

[ghosthunter]

If this goji juice is as good as it claims, why not go to hospitals, especially government run hospitals, and give the juice to the terminal patients and let them take it for a few months for free. Kung gumaling lahat ng mga patients dun e di naka libre na kayo sa mga marketing laway nyo.

Well, if the patients get well or even just improve, goji juice makers would have lifetime customers.

[uls]

kung mura lang itong goji eh lalaklak ako nito araw araw kahit na ndi sure sa benefits.

ang problema kasi sa mga ganitong produkto ay yung presyo (sobrang mahal) at kung paano siya ibinebenta (more of a pyramid scheme disguised as multi-level marketing).

multi-level marketing is legal per se. pero pag ni-require mo yung prospective agents/dealers to cash out or buy a product bago sila makasali, illegal na yun.

sabi niya may naging milyonaryo daw sa pagbebenta ng goji

kaya mahal ang goji hehe

laki ng halaga napupunta sa agent

sigurado wala pa kalahati puhunan nyan

[ghosthunter]

sigurado wala pa kalahati puhunan nyan

Actually based on what I have learned from other similar marketing styles...

Profit over overhead costs of producing and marketing the juice would be in excess of 200%.

So if that is true, the people who got rich quickly from the juice are making unjust profits from either the misery of others or improper info preached by the juice's promoters.

Here is something from breath.org:
http://goji.breathe.org/freelife-him...ce-profits.htm

Maybe there's more money being generated than health.