Annulment..

[Ketib]

lahat naman ng babae may mental illness, in one way or another, talagang ang labo nila magisip, pati mag-drive

Hindi kaya magtampo si Cathy nito? Hehehe!

[Ry_Tower]

Pre hindi gaya ng sipon ang psychological incapacity, absolute ang sipon, sinuman ka harap mo, pag may sipon ka, may sipon ka talaga.

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But it is a sickness. A mental sickness. Therefore it needs cure before the guilty party can remarry.

It is not some anti-matter stuff na may katapat lang na particular thing imho.

Magiging palusot lang kasi yan if sa isang tao nagmamanifest tapos sa iba wala without any intervention.

Yun bang kung pangit napangasawa eh nagka-PI. Nung nakakita ng maganda nawala bigla sakit? Ganun ba yun?

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[minicarph]

But it is a sickness. A mental sickness. Therefore it needs cure before the guilty party can remarry.

It is not some anti-matter stuff na may katapat lang na particular thing imho.

Magiging palusot lang kasi yan if sa isang tao nagmamanifest tapos sa iba wala without any intervention.

Yun bang kung pangit napangasawa eh nagka-PI. Nung nakakita ng maganda nawala bigla sakit? Ganun ba yun?

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minsan mas may topak pa nga magaganda babae sa totoo lang

[sean-archer]

But it is a sickness. A mental sickness. Therefore it needs cure before the guilty party can remarry.

It is not some anti-matter stuff na may katapat lang na particular thing imho.

Magiging palusot lang kasi yan if sa isang tao nagmamanifest tapos sa iba wala without any intervention.

Yun bang kung pangit napangasawa eh nagka-PI. Nung nakakita ng maganda nawala bigla sakit? Ganun ba yun?

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May trigger bro. Kelan at sino makaka trigger nun. For example you could be a good saint pag ka harap mo ang isang tao, pero devil when in front of another... Psychology nga pre, behavior, feelings, thoughts... Relative ito...

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[BratPAQ]

But it is a sickness. A mental sickness. Therefore it needs cure before the guilty party can remarry.

It is not some anti-matter stuff na may katapat lang na particular thing imho.

Magiging palusot lang kasi yan if sa isang tao nagmamanifest tapos sa iba wala without any intervention.

Yun bang kung pangit napangasawa eh nagka-PI. Nung nakakita ng maganda nawala bigla sakit? Ganun ba yun?

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Its not a mental sickness. Quoted from a website. "There is no boxed definition for psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Whenever a client asks, simple answer would be that it refers to a spouse's inability or unwillingness to comply with the essential marital obligations."

For example asawa mo Pinaghalong Diego at Zorayda at di ka talaga tinatayuan sa kanya. Pero kay Inday na kamukha ni Kim Domingo tumatayo naman. Pede humiling si Zorayda ng annulment then after that pede mo na pakasalan si Inday kasi tumatayo naman sa kanya.

[dr. d]

very lively and popular thread, here!
45 posts in 2 days.

[miggypet]

i heard on average.. annulment cost roughly 200k. tama ba?

[minicarph]

Its not a mental sickness. Quoted from a website. "There is no boxed definition for psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Whenever a client asks, simple answer would be that it refers to a spouse's inability or unwillingness to comply with the essential marital obligations."

For example asawa mo Pinaghalong Diego at Zorayda at di ka talaga tinatayuan sa kanya. Pero kay Inday na kamukha ni Kim Domingo tumatayo naman. Pede humiling si Zorayda ng annulment then after that pede mo na pakasalan si Inday kasi tumatayo naman sa kanya.

Grabe naman sa example lalaki na diego, tapos pangit pa na lalaki zorayda, di ka talaga tatyuan nun, ok lang kung mukang lalaki like for example si chuckle dreyfuss, mukang babe din naman

[Ry_Tower]

Its not a mental sickness. Quoted from a website. "There is no boxed definition for psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Whenever a client asks, simple answer would be that it refers to a spouse's inability or unwillingness to comply with the essential marital obligations."

For example asawa mo Pinaghalong Diego at Zorayda at di ka talaga tinatayuan sa kanya. Pero kay Inday na kamukha ni Kim Domingo tumatayo naman. Pede humiling si Zorayda ng annulment then after that pede mo na pakasalan si Inday kasi tumatayo naman sa kanya.

It is a mental state. Dalawa lang yan, physical or mental (included dyan psychological). Yung example mo, yan ang maling dahilan. Hindi mo naiiintindihan ang ibig sabihin ng psychological incapacity. If I were you, research ka ng cases regarding psychological incapacity nang malaman mo totoong ibig sabihin niya.

Nagdadahilan lang ang example mo. Member ng palusot.com.

May trigger bro. Kelan at sino makaka trigger nun. For example you could be a good saint pag ka harap mo ang isang tao, pero devil when in front of another... Psychology nga pre, behavior, feelings, thoughts... Relative ito...

Example naman yan ng bipolar, again mental problem yan. Ano ba yan? Mahirap ba isipin ibig sabihin na mental problem?

Kahit hindi sickness but it is a problem/issue which must be addressed first before marrying again. Again magiging palusot lang kasi ganyang reasoning to get a declaration of nullity of marriage as correctly pointed out by Atty. JM. Kunga ganyan reasoning niyo kasi, madali lang makakuha ng declaration of nullity of marriage which is detrimental to society. Pabor lang yan sa mga babaero or malalandi. Dali pumili pala ng kapalit. Kapag hindi na type sabihin lang psych incap na ako, hindi na tinatayuan sa partner.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Just to be clear, the TS is asking about annulment of the marriage under the church.

His GF is already annulled under the civil law. They can get married before judge or a mayor or another authorized person of another religion.

But he wants to get married sa RC church which is not possible if his GF's marriage is not annulled by the Catholic church.

So thread is about marriage annulment under the Catholic Church.

[Ry_Tower]

Just to be clear, the TS is asking about annulment of the marriage under the church.

His GF is already annulled under the civil law. They can get married before judge or a mayor or another authorized person of another religion.

But he wants to get married sa RC church which is not possible if his GF's marriage is not annulled by the Catholic church.

So thread is about marriage annulment under the Catholic Church.

Pasok dapat reason niya dito.

http://www.stmarys-waco.org/document...c%20Church.pdf

[5000rpm]

i heard on average.. annulment cost roughly 200k. tama ba?

Plus around 30K if you will push through with church annulment

[5000rpm]

and church will require you to talk to the other party, the parents of the other party if they are still alive, gather witnesses to be interviewed.. too much hassle..

[Juan Martinez]

and church will require you to talk to the other party, the parents of the other party if they are still alive, gather witnesses to be interviewed.. too much hassle..

you're aptly warned. it is not easy to get out of it.
so are you still willing to take the plunge?

[cast_no_shadow]

i heard on average.. annulment cost roughly 200k. tama ba?

My close friend on-going kanya, ballpark nakaka 300K na siya at hindi pa daw tapos ang gastos dun.

Why nga kaya it is very costly?

Friend naman ni misis, kasal sa RC church. Got separated then annulled.

Got married again sa RC church.

We have no idea if sa church annulled din or nameke ng docs.

Pero both of them super yaman.

I don’t think may centralised database ang RC church for all married couples.

IIRC aside sa baptismal and confirmation cert, CENOMAR and marriage license lang naman requirement for church weddings?


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[falken]

My close friend on-going kanya, ballpark nakaka 300K na siya at hindi pa daw tapos ang gastos dun.

Why nga kaya it is very costly?

Friend naman ni misis, kasal sa RC church. Got separated then annulled.

Got married again sa RC church.

We have no idea if sa church annulled din or nameke ng docs.

Pero both of them super yaman.

I don’t think may centralised database ang RC church for all married couples.

IIRC aside sa baptismal and confirmation cert, CENOMAR and marriage license lang naman requirement for church weddings?


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Latest I heard is around 400k.

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[BratPAQ]

It is a mental state. Dalawa lang yan, physical or mental (included dyan psychological). Yung example mo, yan ang maling dahilan. Hindi mo naiiintindihan ang ibig sabihin ng psychological incapacity. If I were you, research ka ng cases regarding psychological incapacity nang malaman mo totoong ibig sabihin niya.

Nagdadahilan lang ang example mo. Member ng palusot.com.



Example naman yan ng bipolar, again mental problem yan. Ano ba yan? Mahirap ba isipin ibig sabihin na mental problem?

Kahit hindi sickness but it is a problem/issue which must be addressed first before marrying again. Again magiging palusot lang kasi ganyang reasoning to get a declaration of nullity of marriage as correctly pointed out by Atty. JM. Kunga ganyan reasoning niyo kasi, madali lang makakuha ng declaration of nullity of marriage which is detrimental to society. Pabor lang yan sa mga babaero or malalandi. Dali pumili pala ng kapalit. Kapag hindi na type sabihin lang psych incap na ako, hindi na tinatayuan sa partner.

Maybe you missed the quote from a lawyer.

"There is no boxed definition for psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Whenever a client asks, simple answer would be that it refers to a spouse's inability or unwillingness to comply with the essential marital obligations."

[BratPAQ]

Grabe naman sa example lalaki na diego, tapos pangit pa na lalaki zorayda, di ka talaga tatyuan nun, ok lang kung mukang lalaki like for example si chuckle dreyfuss, mukang babe din naman

that was just an extreme example. In reality couples just use physiological incapacity as palusot since theres no divorce in PH.

[sean-archer]

Maybe you missed the quote from a lawyer.

"There is no boxed definition for psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Whenever a client asks, simple answer would be that it refers to a spouse's inability or unwillingness to comply with the essential marital obligations."

Correct IMO. Well except for the unwillingness part, psycho incapacity is INABILITY to comply with the marital obligations, NOT refusal or unwillingness.

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[5000rpm]

you're aptly warned. it is not easy to get out of it.
so are you still willing to take the plunge?

partly yes.. still looking for other options.. we already have the certificate of finality anyways. If we cant get a marriage certificate of some sort from the church due to that my gf isn't annuled in the church, then I have no choice, we will just get married civilly then look for a priest after who is willing to give as a garden wedding if church wedding is impossible..