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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by atsuete View Post
    sorry guys for reviving a 5 yr. old thread. My car has a b16 engine, and i just saw a Vic c-805 filter at Ace hardware the other day, my question is will this fit on my engine. It is waay bigger than the 806 and a little bit taller than the 307. I would like to use larger than OEM size filters because im now using synthetic oils with 10thousand km. drain intervals, im too lazy to change my filter every 5k so im just thinking switching to a larger filter to compensate.
    try considering filtering efficiency instead of considering the mere size of the the filter.
    Heres a simple comparison to put you into perspective.

    Vic filters - 87% efficiency at 40 microns
    Baldwin or Fleetguard - 98 % efficient at 30 microns
    most, OEM, Bosch, KNN, or other over the counter filters - 98% efficiency at 40 microns

    so even if you use bigger filters, it doesnt necessarily mean that your oil will be less contaminated. using vic, it will only capture most particles in the 40 micron size but at a lousy 87% efficiency only unlike other filters that have better filtering efficiency. try looking for the thread here re: remote bypass filtration. that will really give you a good idea how vic filters are.

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    #22
    What is the difference in terms of quality of an original VIC and fake VIC oil filters? ung Toyota OEM filters, VIC din ba talaga un iniba lang packaging?

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    #23

    Here's the poster you're looking for
    A shop in banawe is selling original for a cheap price (FOR VIOS). Here's the quote, w/mag1 oil

    Full Synthetic:

    Mag 1-1 Gal.- php. 2116
    Oil Filter-VIC- php. 159
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    2275

    Natural:
    php. 1301
    php. 159
    -------------
    1460

    FREE LABOR when you buy your oil and filter here.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    What is the difference in terms of quality of an original VIC and fake VIC oil filters? ung Toyota OEM filters, VIC din ba talaga un iniba lang packaging?
    ang toyota usually Denso yan..

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    #25
    I'm assuming that the filtration efficiencies quoted by Bayen are based off orig Vics. So kung ganyan na ka-pangit ang orig paano na kaya ang japeyks

    Vic is a Japanese brand: http://www.eiken-kk.co.jp/english/
    Last edited by JohnM; October 4th, 2012 at 03:06 PM.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    I'm assuming that the filtration efficiencies quoted by Bayen are based off orig Vics. So kung ganyan na ka-pangit ang orig paano na kaya ang japeyks

    Vic is a Japanese brand: - VIC Filter -
    Yep. Given that we all discovered that our ol reliable VICs aren't that good (thanks mostly to dvldoc), just imagine how bad the fakes are.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    ang toyota usually Denso yan..

    Yup, may nag sabi sa akin na same lang daw ang VIC and Toyota OEM filter. Anyway, I'll stay away from VIC. VIC is also quite pricey compared to other quality oil filters.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Yup, may nag sabi sa akin na same lang daw ang VIC and Toyota OEM filter. Anyway, I'll stay away from VIC. VIC is also quite pricey compared to other quality oil filters.
    same siguro in the way na cr*ppy.

    baka ma-libel ako haha

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    #29
    Wag kayo paloloko dyan na pangit ang Vic oil filter,

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    #30
    If there are better but cheaper filter options in the market, why not? I will buy a better filter (like baldwin, fleetguard, etc) over ViC anytime...

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronki Ronquillo View Post

    Here's the poster you're looking for
    A shop in banawe is selling original for a cheap price (FOR VIOS). Here's the quote, w/mag1 oil

    Full Synthetic:

    Mag 1-1 Gal.- php. 2116
    Oil Filter-VIC- php. 159
    --------------
    2275

    Natural:
    php. 1301
    php. 159
    -------------
    1460

    FREE LABOR when you buy your oil and filter here.
    Is this primal ent?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by EE100shiro View Post
    Wag kayo paloloko dyan na pangit ang Vic oil filter,
    May vested interest?

    IMO and past experience with it, PANGIT siya compared to a cheaper Baldwin but that's just me.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by kompressor View Post
    May vested interest?
    Resident troll lang. Not as loveable as OB though

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Resident troll lang. Not as loveable as OB though
    Hehehe... :inlove:

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by LN106G View Post
    If there are better but cheaper filter options in the market, why not? I will buy a better filter (like baldwin, fleetguard, etc) over ViC anytime...
    Indeed sir those are cheaper than VIC. Nagtataka nga ako eh, bakit ang mahal ng VIC filter?

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by bayen View Post
    try considering filtering efficiency instead of considering the mere size of the the filter.
    Heres a simple comparison to put you into perspective.

    Vic filters - 87% efficiency at 40 microns
    Baldwin or Fleetguard - 98 % efficient at 30 microns
    most, OEM, Bosch, KNN, or other over the counter filters - 98% efficiency at 40 microns

    so even if you use bigger filters, it doesnt necessarily mean that your oil will be less contaminated. using vic, it will only capture most particles in the 40 micron size but at a lousy 87% efficiency only unlike other filters that have better filtering efficiency. try looking for the thread here re: remote bypass filtration. that will really give you a good idea how vic filters are.
    thanks pare, let me re-phrase my question then: Will the Baldwin filter equivalent of Vic c-805 fit my engine? the engine is a B16, the Baldwin part number is B161S.

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    #37
    B16 engine uses the m20x1.5 thread filter.

    there are many options for you:
    Fleetguard LF3528, Baldwin B166, B161-S
    Baldwin B7243,
    Valvoline V0-106
    Fleetguard LF16157

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by bayen View Post
    B16 engine uses the m20x1.5 thread filter.

    there are many options for you:
    Fleetguard LF3528, Baldwin B166, B161-S
    Baldwin B7243,
    Valvoline V0-106
    Fleetguard LF16157
    any chance you have a couple of b161-s's lying around out there,

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    #39
    there maybe cheaper yet better filter than vic.. the only problem is the availability... not many are selling those brands like fleetguard..

    if there is available fleetguard or baldwin why not..

    anyway, i replace the filter and oil every 5k kms...

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    there maybe cheaper yet better filter than vic.. the only problem is the availability... not many are selling those brands like fleetguard..

    if there is available fleetguard or baldwin why not..

    anyway, i replace the filter and oil every 5k kms...
    Indeed sir, VIC is rampant in the market unlike other brands.

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