Urgent! (can't find non-E10-gasoline)

[boy_tino]

bago pa nakarnap ang EE90 corolla ko na naka 2E carburated engine ay palagi na itong nakakargahan ng E-10 for more than 2 years hindi naman nagbago ang andar ng makina ko.

sabi ng mga ibang fuel expert puedeng magka crack or lumubo ang mga rubber hose at plastic na fuel lines mo pero sa akin hindi naman nangyari lagi ko kasing tinitignan kung totoo nga.

tapos pag dating naman daw sa carb ay magkakaroon ito ng limescale or white rust in other word corrosion pero minsan nung nag decide ako i-overhaul or linisin ang carb ko wala naman akong nakitang ganun.



eto lang hindi maganda sa E-10 kapag hindi mo ginamit ang kotse mo ng almost 1 week or higit pa dyan medyo hard starting sya, minsan hindi ko ginamit ang kotse ko ng 5 araw pagkatapos nyan ginamit ko sya ulit, nung una hinala ko baka sa tagal ng hindi ko sya nagamit ay baka nagka corrosion na ang carb ko at mga fuel lines ko baka nga lumiit ang butas kung saan dumadaan ang fuel dahil hindi ito nag si-circulate kasi nga medyo matagal din ipinahinga ko ang kotse ko.

syempre ni-check ko yung rubber at plastic fuel lines ok naman ang butas hindi naman sya lumiit ganun pa rin ang laki ng butas tapos sa carb naman tinignan ko ang jets pati ang buong carb wala naman corrosion at hindi rin lumiit ang jets.

so kinakailangan lang kapag naka E-10 ang makina mong de karburador at wag ito mapapahinga ng matagal.

yung mga EFI naman kung bakit pag nilagyan ng E-10 ito ay pumapangit ang andar paano karamihan ng ECU ay medyo sensitive sensor nito sa fuel dahil nga naka-program lang ito sa premium at unleaded lang kaya sa oras mag-lagay ka ng E-10 na detect ito na kakaiba ang timpla ay papangit nga ang andar nito kaya sa america at ibang bansa ang ginagawa naman ng mga naka-EFI engine na hindi pa compatible sa ethanol ay kinakabitan ito Fuel-Flex System kit sa kanilang electronic injectors para maging compatible ito mula sa premium, unleaded, E-10, E-20, E-65, E-85 at almond gasoline.

[reym]

You might be lucky because my 1999 Corolla GLi developed a pin hole leak on the fuel return line, causing it to spray gasoline inside the engine bay. I was just lucky that it didn't catch fire and that I can disable the gasoline system and use LPG until I had the faulty tubing replaced.

No offense man, but E-10 or not , kailangan nating regular inpections ng fuel lines dahil gasoline tends to weaken rubber parts.

Kaya nga pag nakainom ng gasoline mula sa fuel line ang diesel, injection pump ang unang nasisira.

[OldSchoolHack]

No offense man, but E-10 or not , kailangan nating regular inpections ng fuel lines dahil gasoline tends to weaken rubber parts.

Kaya nga pag nakainom ng gasoline mula sa fuel line ang diesel, injection pump ang unang nasisira.

Diesel engines on the other hand swing the opposite direction. Diesel can use biodiesel far better than gasoline engines can use E10. Some web sites on biodiesel even allude that newer CRDI engines would fair badly when you use biodiesel.

mas mahusay daw gamitin biodiesel sa lumang diesel engine (with bosch type pump or something). newer diesel engines ones would be more incompatible.

[speed unlimited]

bago pa nakarnap ang EE90 corolla ko na naka 2E carburated engine ay palagi na itong nakakargahan ng E-10 for more than 2 years hindi naman nagbago ang andar ng makina ko.

sabi ng mga ibang fuel expert puedeng magka crack or lumubo ang mga rubber hose at plastic na fuel lines mo pero sa akin hindi naman nangyari lagi ko kasing tinitignan kung totoo nga.

tapos pag dating naman daw sa carb ay magkakaroon ito ng limescale or white rust in other word corrosion pero minsan nung nag decide ako i-overhaul or linisin ang carb ko wala naman akong nakitang ganun.



eto lang hindi maganda sa E-10 kapag hindi mo ginamit ang kotse mo ng almost 1 week or higit pa dyan medyo hard starting sya, minsan hindi ko ginamit ang kotse ko ng 5 araw pagkatapos nyan ginamit ko sya ulit, nung una hinala ko baka sa tagal ng hindi ko sya nagamit ay baka nagka corrosion na ang carb ko at mga fuel lines ko baka nga lumiit ang butas kung saan dumadaan ang fuel dahil hindi ito nag si-circulate kasi nga medyo matagal din ipinahinga ko ang kotse ko.

syempre ni-check ko yung rubber at plastic fuel lines ok naman ang butas hindi naman sya lumiit ganun pa rin ang laki ng butas tapos sa carb naman tinignan ko ang jets pati ang buong carb wala naman corrosion at hindi rin lumiit ang jets.

so kinakailangan lang kapag naka E-10 ang makina mong de karburador at wag ito mapapahinga ng matagal.

yung mga EFI naman kung bakit pag nilagyan ng E-10 ito ay pumapangit ang andar paano karamihan ng ECU ay medyo sensitive sensor nito sa fuel dahil nga naka-program lang ito sa premium at unleaded lang kaya sa oras mag-lagay ka ng E-10 na detect ito na kakaiba ang timpla ay papangit nga ang andar nito kaya sa america at ibang bansa ang ginagawa naman ng mga naka-EFI engine na hindi pa compatible sa ethanol ay kinakabitan ito Fuel-Flex System kit sa kanilang electronic injectors para maging compatible ito mula sa premium, unleaded, E-10, E-20, E-65, E-85 at almond gasoline.

Pareho lang tayo iyong sa akin Toyota 5K nang nagsimula na maglabas ang Sea oil ng E10 na unleaded iyon na inilagay ko wala naman problema at pinalitan ko lang ang fuel lines ko na mas magandang hose na transparent napuna ko lang rito tumitigas iyong hose pero hindi naman nabubutas hindi kagaya noong mura na itim na fuel hose namamaga sa katagalan. Iyong carbed ko pag may nakita na akong gums sa loob ng carburator spray ko lang carb cleaner para luminis . Ito lang ang maintanance ko sa 5k engine ko sa hatak pareho naman at alaga lang sa change oil 15 years na wala pang baba makina .

[anthon05]

Diesel engines on the other hand swing the opposite direction. Diesel can use biodiesel far better than gasoline engines can use E10. Some web sites on biodiesel even allude that newer CRDI engines would fair badly when you use biodiesel.

mas mahusay daw gamitin biodiesel sa lumang diesel engine (with bosch type pump or something). newer diesel engines ones would be more incompatible.

sa biodiesel kasi natanong ko sa flying v. 1% lang halo its still negligible if ever may effects sa diesel engine. what if 10% na like ethanol sa gasoline.

many studies say its ok kahit pa daw 20%. d pa talaga natin fully malalaman.

maybe in the future all diesel will have biodiesel mixed. meron ba station na

mas higher percent ang mix ng biodiesel?

[reym]

Diesel engines on the other hand swing the opposite direction. Diesel can use biodiesel far better than gasoline engines can use E10. Some web sites on biodiesel even allude that newer CRDI engines would fair badly when you use biodiesel.

mas mahusay daw gamitin biodiesel sa lumang diesel engine (with bosch type pump or something). newer diesel engines ones would be more incompatible.

+1 Mga Direct Rail Injection pumps are incompatible with biodiesel.

Kapag rotary injection pumps, sigurado masisira sa biodiesel kasi ung diesel mismo ang ginagamit nitong lubricant. Pero pag in-line ang injection pump, may oil na nag lulubricate kaya compatible sya kahit straight vegestable oil ang gamitin.

Yung RF Mazda ng kaibigan ko, SVO gamit nya for 2 years na, wala naman problema.

[voltscastillo]

i've had to overhaul the carb in my dad in law's 99 corolla xe, not once, but twice.

corroded canister valve, too. ang mahal nito, badtrip.

experienced a host of fuel consumption issues after switching to extra unleaded with e10 couple years ago. problems seem to go away whenever i load up on XCS before they put e10 in it.

now that there's e10 in everything, i'm loading up on the highest octane fuel (cheapest) i can find. that's seaoil's extreme 97 RON. i'm sorta hoping the high octane will mitigate any bad effects of the ethanol.

can't we just start a petition that will remove ethanol from all but the cheapest gasolines? like, pag 93 RON dapat may ethanol, and 95 RON and up dapat wala? kasi ang mahal din ng gas eh, with or without ethanol. we might as well start paying for a straight, unadulterated product.

[reym]

What does a canister valve do?

[voltscastillo]

^ i don't know exactly. i'm guessing it traps fuel vapors for the carb to use upon startup.

most taxis remove it, makes no difference to engine. when i removed the broken one, had to crank the engine 3 times before it fires up in the morn.

since the car's not mine, i went out and replaced the canister valve na rin... mahirap na masisi lalo na't sa in laws ko yun hahaha

[boy_tino]

i've had to overhaul the carb in my dad in law's 99 corolla xe, not once, but twice.

corroded canister valve, too. ang mahal nito, badtrip.

experienced a host of fuel consumption issues after switching to extra unleaded with e10 couple years ago. problems seem to go away whenever i load up on XCS before they put e10 in it.

now that there's e10 in everything, i'm loading up on the highest octane fuel (cheapest) i can find. that's seaoil's extreme 97 RON. i'm sorta hoping the high octane will mitigate any bad effects of the ethanol.

can't we just start a petition that will remove ethanol from all but the cheapest gasolines? like, pag 93 RON dapat may ethanol, and 95 RON and up dapat wala? kasi ang mahal din ng gas eh, with or without ethanol. we might as well start paying for a straight, unadulterated product.

90 corolla XL ko more than 2 years na akong nag lalagay ng shell E10 dun ni nung ako mismo ang nagbaklas ng carb nun ni katiting na corrode wala akong nakita nung nag desisyon akong linisin yun dahil sa puros dirt na ito nitong nakaraang 2nd week ng october hindi sa corrosion dahil wala naman talaga akong makita ni Jets pati yung rubber fuel lines na naka kabit sa carb ni-crack, yung butas hindi lumiit or lumobo ang rubber line or hose nito walang ganun, bago pa nakarnap ang corolla kong yun.

maski sa takbo walang pagbabago sa dati nating inilalagay na non-E10 na UNLEADED.

[biglang_liko]

Here'e the effect of using petron super unleaded E10 on my 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0turbo.... the mechanic at Hyundai Commonwealth said the "pak-pak-pak" sound was "fuel knock". That seems logical since that never happend when i was still using Blaze. I'm gonna fill up with blaze as soon as the tank's empty to see if the sound goes away.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdhZ6vMjMtY"]YouTube- Genesis turbo clicking sound[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZQjSV8T7Zs"]YouTube- Genesis Turbo knocking[/ame]

[donald22]

yung mga small players na hindi kilala ata wala pang halong ethanol

[maypindot02]

mga small players wala pa e-10. dati xcs ako nag pa pa karga, ngayon sa mga small players nlng!

[reym]

Please consult your manual, In toyota vehicles since 1979 models, there is a micro adjustment in the distributor for octane rating.

Here'e the effect of using petron super unleaded E10 on my 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0turbo.... the mechanic at Hyundai Commonwealth said the "pak-pak-pak" sound was "fuel knock". That seems logical since that never happend when i was still using Blaze. I'm gonna fill up with blaze as soon as the tank's empty to see if the sound goes away.

YouTube- Genesis turbo clicking sound

YouTube- Genesis Turbo knocking

[reym]

Hehehe, I think you have water in your tank. Have your suking mechanic drain your tank and replace filters. Then you may observe if the same thing happens again.

^ i don't know exactly. i'm guessing it traps fuel vapors for the carb to use upon startup.

most taxis remove it, makes no difference to engine. when i removed the broken one, had to crank the engine 3 times before it fires up in the morn.

since the car's not mine, i went out and replaced the canister valve na rin... mahirap na masisi lalo na't sa in laws ko yun hahaha

[istariray]

Share ko lang. Pinaayos ko carburetor ng Corolla 983 XE ko, pinalitan yung rubber plunger. SAbi ng mekaniko sa A&M dahil daw sa E10 fuel yun. (Napakargahan ko accidentally ng E10 kasi yung gas station na pinakargahan ko, walang sign na yung premium gas nila eh may halo nang ethanol.)

Ngayon sinasadya ko pa ang Jetti sa Macapagal para lang non-E10 ang maipakarga ko.

Babayaran kaya ni Migz Zubiri yung ginastos ko sa repair?

[renzo_d10]

^ You've been filling up ethanol for how many days ?

[renzo_d10]

Here'e the effect of using petron super unleaded E10 on my 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0turbo.... the mechanic at Hyundai Commonwealth said the "pak-pak-pak" sound was "fuel knock". That seems logical since that never happend when i was still using Blaze. I'm gonna fill up with blaze as soon as the tank's empty to see if the sound goes away.

YouTube- Genesis turbo clicking sound

YouTube- Genesis Turbo knocking

Maybe because the blaze has a higher octane rating ( +98 ) than the super unleaded ( +93 ) ?

[H1Tman]

Try Unioil. Pure unleaded........

[biglang_liko]

Maybe because the blaze has a higher octane rating ( +98 ) than the super unleaded ( +93 ) ?

My apologies guys, as it turns out the casa mechanic misdiagnosed the ticking as "fuel knock" when it was in fact later correctly diagnosed as "hydraulic valve-lifter lash" caused by using the wrong viscosity of oil (they used 15w-50 instead of 5w-40) and over-filling the oil. The casa corrected their mistake, and now the engine sounds good as new. But either way, i'm still having second thoughts about using e10 again, and will probably stick to pure gasoline coz I also noticed a drop in fuel efficiency using e10... I averaged 5.8km per liter on e10 vs 6.5km per liter on blaze on a 2.0 turbo.