Remote bypass oil filtration

**testament11** · October 1st, 2013 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by locoroco777

boss ask ko lang....sa gigatrade ba may BD7028 na?

Oo meron doon BD7028. Nakabili nga ako ng 2 doon sa Gigatrade

**12vdc** · October 1st, 2013 08:24 PM

^ Valve will open earlier for b179 while b1431 needs 6psid more before opening.

BPV is a failsafe feature that prevents oil deprivation during cold starts, restricted/clogged elemet, and sudden high-flow rate.

**chookchakchenes** · October 2nd, 2013 09:19 AM

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Safe ba gamitin sa honda? Ang listed sa b1431 mitsubishi diamante and eclipse. Both v6 engine.

Or basta magfit yung thread pwede?

**Ry_Tower** · October 2nd, 2013 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

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Safe ba gamitin sa honda? Ang listed sa b1431 mitsubishi diamante and eclipse. Both v6 engine.

Or basta magfit yung thread pwede?

May post na dito, basta ata not more than 8 yung difference okay siya. Search mo lang dito sir.

**chookchakchenes** · October 2nd, 2013 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

May post na dito, basta ata not more than 8 yung difference okay siya. Search mo lang dito sir.

Kung hindi dapat lalagpas yung difference by 8 eh safe nga. Kasi currently b1402 talaga recommended para sa honda na 14psid din. Yung B179 ito yung gamit late 90s na 8psid.

Natuwa ako sa b1431 mas mahaba kasi.

Hanapin ko yang usapan nyo about psid bypass valve.

**johnjoseph** · October 2nd, 2013 09:39 PM

As per dvldoc, wala tayong cold start dito sa Pilipinas, even in Baguio City, only in countries where there's winter...oil will pass through the Baldwin filter media, kahit ano pa ang BPV pressure, be it 8psid or 30psid, hindi basta-basta ma-clog ang media used by these filters, very highly efficient with high debris carrying capacity even on extended OCI.

**chookchakchenes** · October 4th, 2013 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

^ Valve will open earlier for b179 while b1431 needs 6psid more before opening.

BPV is a failsafe feature that prevents oil deprivation during cold starts, restricted/clogged elemet, and sudden high-flow rate.

Ibig sabihin mas ok yung b179?

**chookchakchenes** · October 4th, 2013 07:04 PM

Nag-email ako sa baldwin. Technical na baka may nakakaintindi dito.

To answer your question, all of our oil filters are “full flow” unless it states that it is a by-pass filter. The B1431 is not a good substitute for the B179 because the micron filtration in the B179 is 18 nominal, 40 absolute with an 8 psi by-pass. The B1431 micron filtration is 23 nominal & 45 absolute with a 14 psi by-pass. I checked both of your vehicles by application and both listed B1402 as the recommended filter; so the B1431 should be okay. However, whenever you use a different filter other than the one we recommend, if there are any problems with it, we do not guarantee it.

**12vdc** · October 4th, 2013 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

Ibig sabihin mas ok yung b179?

Depende.

Kung sobrang lambot ng bypass valve spring konting rebulusyon mo lang(oil flow pressure) bubukas na ito. Kapag nangyari ito at kung madumi ang langis mo, hindi nya mafifilter ang dumi at iikot lang sa lubrication loop na pwedeng sumira sa makina mo sa katagalan ng gamit.

Kung sobrang tigas naman ng BPV, magkakaroon ng oil deprivation kung barado ang filter element at hindi makakqarating sa oil jets and journals ang langis na ikasisira din ng makina mo.

Kung nilakihan mo o niliitan ang filter, hindi nagbabago ang pressure diferential dahil parehas lang ang inlet/outlet kaya konstant ang BPV value. Nagtatalo na lang sa laki ng filter element,holding capacity, at flowrate sa element per area. So mas malaking filter, mas maganda ang filtration dahil lumiliit ang flow-rate per area. Take note the slower the flow of fluid in the filter element, the better filtration - yan din ang principle ng bypass filtration.

In reality hindi applicable ang bypass valve satin lalo nat hindi naman yumeyelo at natutulog na parang mantika ang langis tuwing umaga, hindi ka din naman nagre resing resing na redline lagi ang rebulusyon at sobrang lakas ng oilpressure, or hindi mo naman siguro pinababayan na sobrang dumi na ng langis mo to the point na barado na ang oil filter element dahil once every 2yrs ka lang mag change oil/filter OR sobrang dumi ng hangin sa kapaligiran mo na dahilan para dumuming husto ang langis at mabara ang oil-filter-element. Gamit ka ng bypass valve dito kung napapabayaan ang sasakyan sa maintenance,kung yumeyelo sa lugar, at kung performance car na laging nasa redline ang takbo.

Kaya ang batayan sa pagpili ng filter kung hindi ka sigurado sa magiging resulta ay ang OE PSID value...At para sa aking opinyon lamang tungkol sa napili mong filter, gamitin mo kung ano ang pinakamalaki, doesnt matter na ang BPV value.

**12vdc** · October 4th, 2013 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

Nag-email ako sa baldwin. Technical na baka may nakakaintindi dito.

To answer your question, all of our oil filters are “full flow” unless it states that it is a by-pass filter. The B1431 is not a good substitute for the B179 because the micron filtration in the B179 is 18 nominal, 40 absolute with an 8 psi by-pass. The B1431 micron filtration is 23 nominal & 45 absolute with a 14 psi by-pass. I checked both of your vehicles by application and both listed B1402 as the recommended filter; so the B1431 should be okay. However, whenever you use a different filter other than the one we recommend, if there are any problems with it, we do not guarantee it.

Tama si Baldwin tech. Na omit ko yan sa last reply ko, you have to consider the micron rating. Ang problema naman sa Baldwin ay hindi nila nilalagay ang rating sa catalogue hindi tulad ng Donaldson. Kaya safer pa rin kung ano yung pinakamalaki na magkakasya sa engine bay na yun ang gamitin. And take note, OE filters are crap, so kung 45 absolute si Baldwin, baka 50 ang OE. Sa pagkakaalam ko FRAM ang gumagawa ng OE Honda filter na hindi maganda ang performance.