Oil Did Not Circulate - Damaged Engine!?!

[_Cathy_]

Cat, kelangan mo na yata mag aral ng automotive mech para ikawna mismo PMS.

Just wait for the diag results and reco by casa, then kung hindi nila i-cover ang cost out of goodwill since religious ka naman sakanila ng PMS and abnormal wear ang ngnyari, then pa second opinion ka sa labas.

But what to expect from casa if ever valvetrain problem nga? casa would just consider it as wear part since past 3yrs na. Altho low mileage, your car engine still spins everytime you start it or when get caught on traffic/short distances. Kaya sa machineries sinusukat ang life expectancy sa run-time and for cars it is 100k kms or 3yrs whichever comes first. Mukhang na-setup ka ng mga kawatan sa casa or apprentice trumabaho? goodluck.

My Dad taught me how to do it for my old car but I am afraid to mess with new cars. But I do plan to take a short course when I have the time. It's really hard to be clueless when it comes to engines etc.

Not sure on the price of the valve cover gasket but a quick call to your CASA or to Toyorama in Banawe will do.

Short city drives give more wear and tear as your engine starts and stops more, and you don't get to hit the optimal operating temperature. This is also where you can have more carbon and deposit build-up as the engine rarely stretches it's legs on the high rpm range for a long time. It's just like our bodies when we don't get proper exercise.

Having a low visco synthetic oil is good for you (i.e. the 5W-40 CASA oil) as this offers better protection during cold starts. I'd suggest before you go decide to go Liqui Moly or Royal Purple, go first to the shop and have the cylinder head opened and visual inspection done for sludge. For me that's a likely problem. It might not be major sludge problems but it may be present and the engine just needs a good flush or clean up, and a nice and long highway drive before you switch to designer oils.

If you want a good oil filter, drop CB a line. Maybe he can help get you some Baldwin BT223 filters. There are some sellers on sulit/olx as well.

I asked casa to check for sludge but my service advisor insisted that my car can't have sludge because it's new pa daw and regular PMS. They said owner parts are not allowed anymore. I wanted to buy LM and Baldwin for my gen 11 sana. It's just the same oil and filter for the 10th and 11th gen, isn't it?

nangyari sa akin yan mga 1month akong natakot at nag ipon ng pang pa opera ng engine ko..

tok tok tok talaga sa unang start..after mga 1 hour medyo humina ng kaunti..madami akong natanungan bibiyakin daw makina.

2nd 3rd 4th..pang lima may nag sabi baguhin ko daw ung langis ko from syntetic ..sinubukan ko castrol.
sabay inadjust niya ung valve tappet..pag start ko may knocking sound parin pero medyo mahina.
sabi niya hatawin ko daw ng hatawin .para daw lumapat at kung may mga bara na ay matanggal.

after 1 week .nagulat ako pag start ko sa umaga wala ng toktoktok.sound at naging normal na andar niya..


eto ung tread ko dati

http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...8/#post2125815

Thanks for the link! So from regular oil you shifted to synthetic? I've been using synthetic ever since I got the car kasi. I wonder why casa did not mention adjusting the valve tappet.

It looks like I need to "hataw" the car as you and Vinj recommended Gaano kabilis ba ang hataw? Mapapagastos pa ko ng toll nito. haha.

[crazy_boy]

Cat, any update from casa?

[CVT]

^ ^ ^ Ipahiram o ipa-drive mo na lang sa amin,- kami na ang hahataw....

So, what's the latest on this, please?



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[_Cathy_]

Service advisor told me that there's "moisture" in one of the spark plugs. They replaced all 4 spark plugs and the noise went away daw. I told them I will just get the car tomorrow and check it again on cold start.

How the heck did moisture happen to one of the plugs? Then it means something is wrong with the engine talaga? Service advisor insists that sludge cannot happen to my car daw.

[CVT]

Galing aircon ang mga plugs bago ikinabit...

Dapat nasunog na iyan....


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[crazy_boy]

possible that they sprayed it with compressed air. usually kasi walang air/water separator mga compressor or hindi na-drain yung tubig.

[CVT]

possible that they sprayed it with compressed air. usually kasi walang air/water separator mga compressor or hindi na-drain yung tubig.

Yup,- CDA is not always dried air...

Minsan,- may langis pa iyang kasama...


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[_Cathy_]

Galing aircon ang mga plugs bago ikinabit...

Dapat nasunog na iyan....


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possible that they sprayed it with compressed air. usually kasi walang air/water separator mga compressor or hindi na-drain yung tubig.

So does that mean na damage yung engine ko? I asked for a report na nakaindicate yung spark plug with moisture just in case something bad happens to the engine in the future.

Ganiyan symptoms ba na may typewriter sound pag may moisture sa spark plug?

[crazy_boy]

mahilig kasi mag buga nga compressed air mga mechanic natin. sa pag drain ng oil, sa spark plug area, etc. kaya ayaw ko magpa buga ng compressed air sa PMS. magkakaroon pa ng moisture sa oil.

[12vdc]

Service advisor told me that there's "moisture" in one of the spark plugs. They replaced all 4 spark plugs and the noise went away daw. I told them I will just get the car tomorrow and check it again on cold start.

Moisture on spark plugs? Thats BS. Casa people are full of this BS..
By the time fuel burns in the chamber, those moisture should have been gone.

Baka moisture sa boot/caps. Every 10k kms sparkplug replacement diba? For sure they will charge you of SP consumable part yun.

[_Cathy_]

Moisture on spark plugs? Thats BS. Casa people are full of this BS..
By the time fuel burns in the chamber, those moisture should have been gone.

Baka moisture sa boot/caps. Every 10k kms sparkplug replacement diba? For sure they will charge you of SP consumable part yun.

They should not charge me because it's not my fault that the sparks they installed had moisture. I should be mad for the negligence that happened. I asked for the reason why there was moisture and got no answer.

Anyway, I will ask for a report on their findings. They checked the valve cover gasket na din daw.

I am not sure if those new spark plugs will address that tak tak problem, baka after a few days ganyan na naman

[chookchakchenes]

Threadstarter cathy,

Next time pag bibili ka kotse maging open-minded ka sa honda. Ang toyota ngayon eh kumukuha na lang sa impression na "matibay nung 1990s"

Ito ang reality ng toyota ngayon mapa international and local = major recall

Example lang dito sa tsikot forum

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Sticky Thread Sticky: Toyota Recall - Accelerator Pedal may get stuck [merged]

Sticky Thread Sticky: List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)

[Syuryuken]

Threadstarter cathy,

Next time pag bibili ka kotse maging open-minded ka sa honda. Ang toyota ngayon eh kumukuha na lang sa impression na "matibay nung 1990s"

honda fanboi bwahahaha

[12vdc]

Binuksan na ang valve cover. Tsinek ang tappets and valve clearance. Makikita na doon kung may sludge buildup sa rocker..

Kung gusto mo makasiguro, drop the pan. Kita mo kaagad kung may sludge buildup.

[chris_d]

Labo lang ng reason nila na moisture, sa init ng makina dapat wala agad moisture. Nde cguro nila alam ano actual problem.

[chookchakchenes]

honda fanboi bwahahaha

Hindi mo naman ako masisisi

[_Cathy_]

Binuksan na ang valve cover. Tsinek ang tappets and valve clearance. Makikita na doon kung may sludge buildup sa rocker..

Kung gusto mo makasiguro, drop the pan. Kita mo kaagad kung may sludge buildup.

Yes I told them to check the tappets. So if there is sludge build up e I got a lemon engine? BTW when I got my Altis, 1 year after pinalitan and steering. The next year ata yung blower motor naman ng AC. Kaya kinakabahan talaga ako na may defect ang engine

Labo lang ng reason nila na moisture, sa init ng makina dapat wala agad moisture. Nde cguro nila alam ano actual problem.

Ano kaya ginawa nila bakit nagka problem yung engine right after PMS? I am so mad at myself for going to the casa when my car is already out of warranty.

What should I ask casa to indicate in their report?
1. There is no sludge build up
2. Installed spark plugs during PMS has moisture

Did I miss anything out?

[innova2013]

They should not charge me because it's not my fault that the sparks they installed had moisture. I should be mad for the negligence that happened. I asked for the reason why there was moisture and got no answer.

Anyway, I will ask for a report on their findings. They checked the valve cover gasket na din daw.

I am not sure if those new spark plugs will address that tak tak problem, baka after a few days ganyan na naman

feeling ko po, kaya lumabas sound nung malapit na kayo sa bahay kasi lumuwag na yung mga spark plugs. noong nagpa PMS kayo, nag check sila ng SP and maybe the mechanic did not properly tighten it. it came loose during the trip home.

loose spark plugs may tik tik sound din, same sound of a taser gun pero mahinang version.

tama po yan, after diagnosis, you have the right to ask for a service report on what had happen on your engine.

pero kahit loose ang pagkaka kabit ng spark plugs, wala dapat moisture kasi may combustion pa din na mangyayari, kaya matutuyo din if may water lang naman yung moisture.

naka indicate po ba kung anong klaseng moisture/residue yung nakita nila sa SP? oil? water?

[_Cathy_]

Hindi mo naman ako masisisi

I was really supposed to get the FD but my Mom was hell bent on Toyota. Bilib kasi sa AE101 namin. I can't argue since she's paying

Kumuha pa ko ngayon ng Gen 11

feeling ko po, kaya lumabas sound nung malapit na kayo sa bahay kasi lumuwag na yung mga spark plugs. noong nagpa PMS kayo, nag check sila ng SP and maybe the mechanic did not properly tighten it. it came loose during the trip home.

loose spark plugs may tik tik sound din, same sound of a taser gun pero mahinang version.

tama po yan, after diagnosis, you have the right to ask for a service report on what had happen on your engine.

pero kahit loose ang pagkaka kabit ng spark plugs, wala dapat moisture kasi may combustion pa din na mangyayari, kaya matutuyo din if may water lang naman yung moisture.

naka indicate po ba kung anong klaseng moisture/residue yung nakita nila sa SP? oil? water?

Hindi ko natanong kung ano yung moisture e. But tomorrow I will ask for a detailed service report talaga. I also asked for the old spark plugs.

[crazy_boy]

FD? meron din factory defects. research mo