Oil Did Not Circulate - Damaged Engine!?!

[Langabe]

Minsan talaga napupundi ang spark plug kahit original pa yan. Or baka nilinis yun old spark plug pag balik nila naka dikit na yun adjustment dahil bumagsak pagbalik nila. Impossible kasi masira yun engine mo low mileage tapos lagi naman ang change oil.

[_Cathy_]

Minsan talaga napupundi ang spark plug kahit original pa yan. Or baka nilinis yun old spark plug pag balik nila naka dikit na yun adjustment dahil bumagsak pagbalik nila. Impossible kasi masira yun engine mo low mileage tapos lagi naman ang change oil.

Thanks sir. It makes me feel better thinking that the engine is not damaged.

[xwangbu]

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I got confused too. My spark plugs were not replaced pala.



My service adviser said that he already reported the technician to the manager. He apologized for the hassle naman. Sana nilibre na lang yung spark plug I asked for the spark plug with wear. I will take a picture later.



Our driver said he was not allowed to go to the service area I believe him kasi sa casa na pinupuntahan ko dati, naalala ko visible yung service area but you can't stay there.

TYT North Edsa mapapanood mo kung ano ginagawa during servicing.
pwede mo lapitan. pwede ka rin sumingit kung me gusto ka silipin
sa ilalim.

[leodawesome]

My car had its first PMS kahapon sa Mitsubishi. I had to do some errands kaya binalikan ko n lng yung auto after a few hrs. Bigla ko lng naisip if there's a way to check sa car system or dun sa mga meter sa dash board kung ginawa nga yung sked maintenace check particularly yung pag change oil. nagmamadali ako kya pirma lng ako ng pirma and ngayon ko lng din na notice n blanko yung cheklist n copy ko. yung green n copy ng casa yun yung pinirmahan ko. 1K p lng nman yung auto so hindi ako masyado worried kung na check ba sya maigi. pero for future reference i need to know ano mga dapat gawin kpag pinasok sa casa yung auto for PMS. Thanks n advance sa inputs nyo.


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Sir best way para malaman na pinalitan is demand for the replaced parts. Or gaya ng ginagawa ng iba, lagyan mo ng palatandaan yung luma.

[12vdc]

My kia cd5's spark plug is almost 3 years old. Ill just clean it during change oil. Its running fine naman. Afaik, SP is good for 100k kms. Sabi nga ng mekaniko namin, it will last a lifetime, basta genuine lang daw.


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Im not sure why 10k is the recommended replacement interval but my old corolla linis lang at re-gap. I replace them when they are really fouled. Maybe with the newer ignition system(distributorless system and electronic ignition), they recommend frequent replacement to avoid overworking the ignition pack. The electronics on these newer systems are precise it gets only the needed voltage to make the spark but increases when plugs are fouled or not properly gapped. For my van it gives me peace of mind replacing every 10k kms since its always doing long distance, its cheap anyway P400 per pack VS new coil pack P4k each. And yeah lots of fake NGK, Bosch, Champion, even ND are being faked by chinamen.

[jick.cejoco]

And yeah lots of fake NGK, Bosch, Champion, even ND are being faked by chinamen


Hehehe there are even fake chinese people too.


You have been taken for a ride on a guess and hope wagon. Sorry to hear that. As for me, I give the old parts to the owner except parts that leak and parts taken back as core. A friend places the parts installed and removed by his technicians if it did not fix the customer's concern on a shelf as a piece on the wall of shame.


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[12vdc]

Unfortunately i dont have similar vehicle to test the part(im just self learnt know all mechanic) so i just replace it per recommendation. I think with the newer cars, im paying to replace parts earlier for peace of mind. The old system are lot easier to maintain eh and i don't wanna experience again cleaning the plugs on 400km journey in the middle of the night.

I hope one day when these chinese had full of faking they ended up faking their own products.
That would be dredge of the dredge.

[jick.cejoco]

there are parts that require time change schedule. example: tires expire in four or five years depending on climate, brake fluid, wiper blades needs changing every two years, even if some of these parts are hardly used, they deteriorate over time. just like airplanes, some parts belong to the TCTO (time change technical order). even if the aircraft never flew, some parts that expire must be replaced before it takes off the ground.

[_Cathy_]

My car is in really bad shape!!! I've been using it since Monday and the idling is inconsistent. Before I took the car to casa for PMS, my car was running perfectly (1000 rpm no ac, 800 no ac) The engine was so quiet I would sometimes think the car is not running!

Now on cold start the rpm is almost at 1.8k! Then while running naglalaro from 800 to 600. It used to be a perfect 800. The car then vibrates because of this idling. I thought I would give it a few days for the engine to adjust but it is not getting any better! Tonight I decided to open the hood and noticed that there is still a sound coming from the top of the engine.

WHAT THE HELL could happen to a car that just turned 4 yrs old with 35k on the odometer with regular PMS using the stupid expensive fully synthetic oil from casa! CASA said the loud noise came from the defective spark plug. It did get rid of the loud noise but there is still an effing tak tak or tik tik noise that I cannot even distinguish.

I AM SO MAD I am afraid I will snap at the casa if I talk to them any further!!! I have lost days at work getting sick from the aggravation this has caused me! I don't know what to do if I should return the car to them! I told them not to return the car to me until everything is fixed. I don't mind that the car stays with them for a week as long as they fix their fck up! 1 araw pa lang nangangati ng ibalik sakin! I am losing time, money and my health because of what they did to my car! Pabalik balik ako sa casa and it does not help that the location is traffic hell!

Please help me. Should I still return the car to them AGAIN and insist that they fix it or should I take it to another auto shop. I have no idea where.

Casa said there is no sludge. They said they wanted to replace the valve cover gasket but there was none available, Ano naman connection nun sa tunog ng makina diba?!?!!? Should I ask them to go ahead and adjust the valve clearance? I am afraid baka lalo nilang wasakin yung auto ko, pagbayarin pa ko!

I am thinking if I should start researching on how to file a complaint with DTI. I would like to believe that they are trying their best to help. I don't wanna lose the goodwill I have established with them but this is a major fck up on their side. I don't know if they are really addressing the problem or they are just giving me lame excuses. How can a car that is running perfectly suddenly have engine noise after PMS. Baka may nang gago sa auto ko na technician dun!

[chris_d]

Assuming they did not play around with any other components or sensors I would go ahead with the valve clearance adjustment. If this is the same as valve tappet clearance I had an experience before that when it was adjusted incorrectly the car idling became erratic. I had to get it redone properly with the engine left to cool down to room temp first. The valve cover gasket should have no effect at all, unless there is a tear where oil or air leaks out.

[vvti2.0]

Di kaya fuel mo rin may problema? Ipa OBD scan mo muna.

[crazy_boy]

Seek for 2nd opinion first. Bring it to ARC automotive or speedyfix.

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[sirkosero]

about the idling, maybe its just the maf sensor that needs cleaning. nataon lang after the weird sound.

yung sa sound naman, baka lang naging mas sensitive ka sa sound because of the experience?

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[falken]

Get a 2nd opinion.

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[12vdc]

Madaming pwedeng dahilan yan. Baka may snwap na pyesa dyan ang casa.

Personally i do casa only when its within warranty, after that outside casa na.

Trustworthy mechs are usually outside casa shops, kaya pa second opinion mo na.

[_Cathy_]

What really blows my mind is what could have the casa done in a span of 3 hrs to fck up the engine? Normally I leave the car for PMS overnight and nothing happens. This time hindi iniwan pero nasira Assuming that casa did nothing else but change the oil, it's still mind blowing for me that my religiously maintained car's engine would show a defect so early on

I'll get a second opinion. I just thought of bringing it to casa so they won't charge me, they admitted a lapse on their technician's part naman for not checking the car completely. I just hate na pabalik balik ako.

re the sound, I don't think I got more sensitive, pero kung ganun nga, the erratic idling is still these so something is really wrong

[jodski]

^ an untrained technician can do something to screw up an engine even for less than a minute id careless...

In your case madam go for a second opinion na if nawalan ka na ng tiwala dyan. Malay mo makukuha lang yan sa tune up... Pero majority here can only speculate based sa description mo therefore mas maganda na patignan mo muna sa iba and compare the diagnosis and decide later

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[12vdc]

The difference is, your car was still under warrantey they could not just farked it up because they knew it would just be another backjob.

This time after you waived goodbye to your warranty, casa see your car as a milking cow..

At 35k kms 3yrs with rough idling, it could be just sensers or some electronics or fuelling probs. Cars nowadays are so hitech that tends to fail early because of those additional parts.

AFAIK we don't have such consumer protection rights when it comes to cars/services' unsound business practice. What you could do is log a complaint, maybe if they havent fixed it on the 3rd attempt then you could have it documented before bringing it to DTI. For now if you want to resolve it asap then bring it to a competent shop.

[jick.cejoco]

Yesterday my car had its 35k PMS at the casa. Going home, a tak tak tak sound came from the top part of the engine. The sound would increase along with revving the engine.

This morning, the sound was still there. I called my service advisor and had him listen to the engine. He said they will come to my house to check on the engine. When I turned on the engine again the sound was gone.

Last PMS (30k) was AUG 13 using fully synthetic oil. The car ran 5k to 6k at the most. I opted NOT to have flushing and treatment for the 35k PMS. Possible scenarios according to my friends:

1. Tappet sound only

2. There was a sludge and oil did not go up the engine resulting in the sound. Natanggal sludge so the sound went away.

3. Dumulas mounting and went back to proper seating

4. Oil pump problem

Check engine oil did not light up. WTF could have happened when I just had my PMS? My car is out of warranty so I am really worried. I am hoping for the best case scenario according to Archie which is the tappet lang.

if the last thing done to the car was oil and filter change and the engine made noises, check or replace the filter. chances are whoever did the oil change might have used the wrong oil filter. begin with this first. it is the least expensive and intrusive action

[crazy_boy]

Cathy, ano na update dito?

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