Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**amoyligo** · July 4th, 2015 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by radz15

Any adventure or crosswind owners here using zic up 10w40?

Yan ba yung black container green label? Yan ang gamit ng relatives ko fleet taxi business adventure. urvan. Mabilis daw kasi lumapot delo gold kaya lumipat ibang brand.

**amoyligo** · July 4th, 2015 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Which specific oil is this? Where is it available?

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RV 10w30 and Shell 10w30

Mas quiet engine using rv 10w30 for our innova. Sometimes i double check baka nakaoff engine yun pala tahimik talaga. Tried delo gold ultra pero ingay engine.

Sa shell ok din pero kaso mausok. Will check the container parang CF ata API

**sphinxz** · July 4th, 2015 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by midnytwarrior

1. G-DLD-1, API CF-4, CF = API Rating(CF-4;CF) = additive requirements (in layman's terms) para sa protection or minimum additives required para sa engine
2. xxWxx = meaning to say, yun viscosity ng oil or lapot o labnaw ng langis

Usually magkahiwalay sila since iba ang specifications or "petaining to"

Ano ba ang naka lagay sa owner's manual?

yun API rating is yun "minimum" na engine oil additives na required para mabigyan ng protection ang engine. C=Combustion/Commercial (para sa diesel engines); Followed by another alphabetical character(the farther from letter "A" means better additives) which is letter "F". Most recent is letters "H(1998),"I"(2001); "I+"(2004) or "J"(2006)

xxWxx = weather grade. sample is 15W-40. W=winter grade. Meaning pag may "xxWxx" meaning may "Winter" Grade at "Summer" grade combined. "15W" means the oil will not solidify -15 deg Celcius (winter) and "40" (summer) means that the oil can maintain it's "viscosity" at 40+ deg Celcius ambient temperature.

So, for example, pag sinabi sa manual na "15W-40, API CF-4" meaning yan ang pinaka minimum na reuired na oil para sa sasakyanb mo.

Going lower than "CF-4" means less additives para sa engine; going "thicker" than "15W-40" such as 20W-50 or SAE 40 means mas malapot ang langis then mahihirapan ang engine mo, which will lead to breakdowns.

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1. G-DLD-1, API CF-4, CF = API Rating(CF-4;CF) = additive requirements (in layman's terms) para sa protection or minimum additives required para sa engine
2. xxWxx = meaning to say, yun viscosity ng oil or lapot o labnaw ng langis

Usually magkahiwalay sila since iba ang specifications or "petaining to"

Ano ba ang naka lagay sa owner's manual?

yun API rating is yun "minimum" na engine oil additives na required para mabigyan ng protection ang engine. C=Combustion/Commercial (para sa diesel engines); Followed by another alphabetical character(the farther from letter "A" means better additives) which is letter "F". Most recent is letters "H(1998),"I"(2001); "I+"(2004) or "J"(2006)

xxWxx = weather grade. sample is 15W-40. W=winter grade. Meaning pag may "xxWxx" meaning may "Winter" Grade at "Summer" grade combined. "15W" means the oil will not solidify -15 deg Celcius (winter) and "40" (summer) means that the oil can maintain it's "viscosity" at 40+ deg Celcius ambient temperature.

So, for example, pag sinabi sa manual na "15W-40, API CF-4" meaning yan ang pinaka minimum na reuired na oil para sa sasakyanb mo.

Going lower than "CF-4" means less additives para sa engine; going "thicker" than "15W-40" such as 20W-50 or SAE 40 means mas malapot ang langis then mahihirapan ang engine mo, which will lead to breakdowns.

Thanks sir sa napakadetailed at simpleng explanation. Wala pong nakalagay na xxWxx na reco rating sa manual. So basically since CF-4 ang nakalagay sa manual, I should use CF and up. As to the viscosity, immaterial yung 1st xx kasi wala naman tayong winter, right? Then for the 2nd xx, better siguro 40 kasi global warming na. Pumapalo na ng ~40deg kapag summer dito sa atin, right?
Is there something na 5W40? Salamat

**amoyligo** · July 4th, 2015 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by sphinxz

Thanks sir sa napakadetailed at simpleng explanation. Wala pong nakalagay na xxWxx na reco rating sa manual. So basically since CF-4 ang nakalagay sa manual, I should use CF and up. As to the viscosity, immaterial yung 1st xx kasi wala naman tayong winter, right? Then for the 2nd xx, better siguro 40 kasi global warming na. Pumapalo na ng ~40deg kapag summer dito sa atin, right?
Is there something na 5W40? Salamat

Maganda maexperience mo lahat. Try mo lahat ng available viscosity para malaman mo saan ok.

Ginawa ko dati yan. Mas gusto 10w30 innova.

**sphinxz** · July 4th, 2015 08:45 AM

Then I'll start with 10w30. Parang consensus naman lahat dito for that type.

sa brand naman, are there some brands I have to watch out for? Thanks

**midnytwarrior** · July 4th, 2015 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by sphinxz

Thanks sir sa napakadetailed at simpleng explanation. Wala pong nakalagay na xxWxx na reco rating sa manual. So basically since CF-4 ang nakalagay sa manual, I should use CF and up. As to the viscosity, immaterial yung 1st xx kasi wala naman tayong winter, right? Then for the 2nd xx, better siguro 40 kasi global warming na. Pumapalo na ng ~40deg kapag summer dito sa atin, right?
Is there something na 5W40? Salamat

You welcome sir.
Normally naka indicate din yun SAE viscosity rating na required na engine oil sa manual.

Ang mga engine manufacturers ang nag dictate ng mga oil viscosity at additive requirement para sa engine. So pag hinde nagamitan ng required na viscosity at additive yun engine eh magkakaproblema in the long term.

What I mean here is, kaya may viscosity requirement is para sapat ang thickness ng oil para maka circulate sa loob ng makina and mag provide ng tamang lubrication.

Yes meron 5W-40 na grade. Not sure about for diesel engines, pero recently may nakita ako na TRD Motul na 5W-40 diesel engine oil.

But better check mo yun manual para makita yun mga allowed na oil viscosity na pwedeng gamitin sa engine.

BTW, ano year model ng sasakyan mo, ilan na mileage at ano yun oil na gamit mo dati?

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Originally Posted by sphinxz

Thanks sir sa napakadetailed at simpleng explanation. Wala pong nakalagay na xxWxx na reco rating sa manual. So basically since CF-4 ang nakalagay sa manual, I should use CF and up. As to the viscosity, immaterial yung 1st xx kasi wala naman tayong winter, right? Then for the 2nd xx, better siguro 40 kasi global warming na. Pumapalo na ng ~40deg kapag summer dito sa atin, right?
Is there something na 5W40? Salamat

You welcome sir.
Normally naka indicate din yun SAE viscosity rating na required na engine oil sa manual.

Ang mga engine manufacturers ang nag dictate ng mga oil viscosity at additive requirement para sa engine. So pag hinde nagamitan ng required na viscosity at additive yun engine eh magkakaproblema in the long term.

What I mean here is, kaya may viscosity requirement is para sapat ang thickness ng oil para maka circulate sa loob ng makina and mag provide ng tamang lubrication.

Yes meron 5W-40 na grade. Not sure about for diesel engines, pero recently may nakita ako na TRD Motul na 5W-40 diesel engine oil.

But better check mo yun manual para makita yun mga allowed na oil viscosity na pwedeng gamitin sa engine.

BTW, ano year model ng sasakyan mo, ilan na mileage at ano yun oil na gamit mo dati?

**midnytwarrior** · July 4th, 2015 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by sphinxz

Then I'll start with 10w30. Parang consensus naman lahat dito for that type.

sa brand naman, are there some brands I have to watch out for? Thanks

Basically, all oils are the same, but they are not created equal.

Try natin ganito when you search for engine oil:
1. Oil requirement for your engine
2. Price/budget
3. Start with brands like Shell Rimula/Caltex Delo
4. Availability
5. Reputable store - marami kasi sumasalisi na fake oils pati subpar brands na exaggerated ang specs sa mga local auto supplies.

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Originally Posted by sphinxz

Then I'll start with 10w30. Parang consensus naman lahat dito for that type.

sa brand naman, are there some brands I have to watch out for? Thanks

Basically, all oils are the same, but they are not created equal.

Try natin ganito when you search for engine oil:
1. Oil requirement for your engine
2. Price/budget
3. Start with brands like Shell Rimula/Caltex Delo
4. Availability
5. Reputable store - marami kasi sumasalisi na fake oils pati subpar brands na exaggerated ang specs sa mga local auto supplies.

**radz15** · July 4th, 2015 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by amoyligo

Yan ba yung black container green label? Yan ang gamit ng relatives ko fleet taxi business adventure. urvan. Mabilis daw kasi lumapot delo gold kaya lumipat ibang brand.

Parehas kasing black container and green label yung zic up 10w40 saka yung zic rv 10w30. Alin po kaya dun sa dalawa gamit ng relatives nyo?