Lahat ba ng CRDI "pareha"?

[scharnhorst]

Sa tingin ko, yung mga CRDi na parehas ang displacement hindi naman siguro nagkakalayo sa potential peak output.

nagkakaiba siguro na linalagay na forced induction device (yung iba vgt, yung iba normal turbo lang)

yung iba rin wala atang intercooler, or maliit lang ang intercooler (yung innova na d-4d hindi ko talaga mahanap yung intercooler nya)

o kaya naman iba ang setting sa ecu ng makers - yung iba geared for power, yung ibang manufacturer, conscious sa emissions kaya medyo mababa lang.

just my opinion, I might be really wrong.

[alwayz_yummy]

ang crdi parang Pentium-4 processor lang din yan

depende sa displacement, at intake... sa P4, may non-HT at HT, at pagagaiba ng system-bus

[Memphis Raines]

I have always been amazed on CRDi comparisons ever since they introduced this revolutionary engine here in our country. After hearing all the sales pitch, hyped promotions/claims, power here economy there, I think that the most important feature of a CRDi engine is RELIABILITY

You may have the most powerful, economical wonder-of-an-engine CRDi but what really matters in the long run is will it stand the test of time.

Just my 2 cents .

[suv]

eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?

Meron na ba sa inyo experience na maitim na usok sa korean crdi?

[jeffrocks]

Sa ngayon, Hyundai/Kia yata ang nakakalamang when it comes to CRDI engines and i'm quite sure na nag-iisip ng mabuti mga car companies kung papano nila malalagpasan ito

[numbah5]

eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?

Meron na ba sa inyo experience na maitim na usok sa korean crdi?

Euro 4 is the emission standard in effect since January 2005 in Europe... it means that it has less carbon monoxide, less nitrous oxide, less hydro oxide, and less particulate matter than previous emission standards (Euro 1-Euro 3). in lay man's terms, when a vehicle is Euro 4 compliant, it has cleaner emissions than Euro 2 and Euro 3 compliant vehicles. as of now wala pa ako nakikita na umusok na CRDi. kung may uusok man lang, dahil na yun sa kulan sa oil na nilalagy sa engine...

Sa ngayon, Hyundai/Kia yata ang nakakalamang when it comes to CRDI engines and i'm quite sure na nag-iisip ng mabuti mga car companies kung papano nila malalagpasan ito

i beg to differ, but i think the Europeans are leading the CRDi fight in our country, with the likes of BMW, Volvo, Audi/Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Land Rover. for example, the 2.0 inline-4 diesel engine of BMW produces 163 ps and 340 Nm, same as the power of Toyota's 3.0 D-4D...

[Camgen6]

Basta for now ang pinaka maganda un sa Hyundai/Kia. Pinaka bulok sa Toyota.

Hehehe, lets get it on!!! yota fanbois agree ba kayo?

eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?

It means your engine will have less emissions when you use EURO 4 Spec'd diesel fuel (clean diesel). But the fuel there in Phils is dirty so it's kinda useless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Euronorms_Diesel.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Euronorms_Petrol.png

[ferdine]

Euro 4 is the emission standard in effect since January 2005 in Europe... it means that it has less carbon monoxide, less nitrous oxide, less hydro oxide, and less particulate matter than previous emission standards (Euro 1-Euro 3). in lay man's terms, when a vehicle is Euro 4 compliant, it has cleaner emissions than Euro 2 and Euro 3 compliant vehicles. as of now wala pa ako nakikita na umusok na CRDi. kung may uusok man lang, dahil na yun sa kulan sa oil na nilalagy sa engine...



i beg to differ, but i think the Europeans are leading the CRDi fight in our country, with the likes of BMW, Volvo, Audi/Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Land Rover. for example, the 2.0 inline-4 diesel engine of BMW produces 163 ps and 340 Nm, same as the power of Toyota's 3.0 D-4D...

Binabantayan ko palagi ang Sorento na nakikita ko sa daan kung may usuk o wala. And I agree, wala pa akong nakita na Sorento na umuusuk. D4D na pickup? o meron na, kita ko dahil sinubukan kong habulin nong nakuha ko ang bago kong SF.

Ikabig na rin cguro natin ang HYUNDAI/KIA sa European dahil they adopted the European system of the CRDI technology. Siguro ang ibig sabihin ng previous poster ay ang current market share kung sino nga ba ang mabilis mabenta ngayon sa mga CRDI models sa atin. HYUNDAI/KIA seems like the current choice sa mga nakakaalam, seems going to be the defacto in the future (kung tutulog tulog ang mga competitors sa pansitan) and seems to be getting there.

[scharnhorst]

I've seen a d4d innova belch black soot for a short moment

depende rin ata sa diesel quality yung composition ng emissions.

as of now our diesel can't compare to the one being used in EU and the US. ultra low sulfur kasi gamit dun e.

[yuichi]

i testdrove my friend's Innova E (2.5 d4d, m/t )last week, the power just felt like their 2004 Revo S (2.0 EFI Gas), but very far from the power output from the 2.2 CRDI Santa Fe a/t, alang whiplash e.

[Horsepower]

oist Yuichi, tama na yan, baka sabihin na naman we don't give them breathing space. LOLOLOL.

[yuichi]

oist Yuichi, tama na yan, baka sabihin na naman we don't give them breathing space. LOLOLOL.

ahehehe! oo nga pala

[xox]

would you guys know if the 03 trooper local with 3.0 engine is a CRDI engine?

[jarhead]

would you guys know if the 03 trooper local with 3.0 engine is a CRDI engine?

yup its a CRDI engine.. but its the 1st generation type of crdi engine.. and the trooper was the first car in the philippines using the crdi engine.... and the altera we have tyr now isthe 3rd generation type....

[promdiboy]

yung crdi ng mitsubishi 4m41 ko pag binigla bumubuga ng usok sa simula, with catalytic converter na, gaya ng uphill tapos oovertake ako, i know this is normal sa mga diesel engines, yung crdi ba ng ibang brands wala talagang usok kahit binibigla?

[TFR]

oist Yuichi, tama na yan, baka sabihin na naman we don't give them breathing space. LOLOLOL.

OT: OO nga. Kaya nga I dont I dont post any feedback anymore eh. May flamers pa!

[ferdine]

yung crdi ng mitsubishi 4m41 ko pag binigla bumubuga ng usok sa simula, with catalytic converter na, gaya ng uphill tapos oovertake ako, i know this is normal sa mga diesel engines, yung crdi ba ng ibang brands wala talagang usok kahit binibigla?

Tulad ng sinabi ko dati I prefer the Sorento to observe dahil nauna sa market compared to the SF. At wala pa akong nakitang usok kahit biglaan.
You can also try to find it yourself. See in your rearview mirror, pag Sorento nasa likuran mo, harang-harangin mo nang kunti kung gusto mag overtake, bagal-bagalan mo ng kunti, asar-asarin mo nang kunti para uminit. Tyak pag binigyan mo nang opening, bibigyan ka ng arangkada nun at ma observe mo ang exhaust pipe. Pero hwag lang Sorento subukan mo rin Fort, SF at iba pang mga new generation CRDI para kita mo ebidensya.

[Horsepower]

Promdiboy: baka po barado na yung air filter. AFAIK, yung usok, mga unburned fuel yun, so something *might* be wrong in the burning process.

sa SF wala, even at 200 km/h.

Pero yung isang SF owner umusok yung sa kanya nung nabaklas yung Turbocharger nya (di naikabit ng maayos ng casa nung tinanggal for the VIN stencil for the CR). So maybe check your turbo too. After maikabit yung sa kanya, no problems and no smoke na ulit.

[wnstnuy]

I don't think ma fully appreciate natin ang CRDI tech dito sa Pinas coz of our very low quality diesel fuel. We are using cheaper kind of diesel fuel coz it's widely used by our public transport. Unlike in other highly developed countries diesel is more expensive than petrol fuel.

[yourman]

my previous 2003 starex tdic seldom belch black smoke during normal driving conditions, even when i was using it in baguio.. only when the turbo broke down did it emit white smoke..

i think with the crdis now, you will never see these emit black smoke since it runs just like the petrol engines.. even if we use dirty diesels here, they will not emit black smoke that we usually see from old diesel engines of jeeps, fx, trucks and buses..

specially for the first 3 to 4 years of these crdis, when they are still on its peak condition, smoke will be absent from them..

also, i guess because these engines are controlled by the ecu where the mixture of air and diesel are set at the right mixture.. so hard as you might, smoke is a thing of the past for these high tech engines..