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    #21
    Sa tingin ko, yung mga CRDi na parehas ang displacement hindi naman siguro nagkakalayo sa potential peak output.

    nagkakaiba siguro na linalagay na forced induction device (yung iba vgt, yung iba normal turbo lang)

    yung iba rin wala atang intercooler, or maliit lang ang intercooler (yung innova na d-4d hindi ko talaga mahanap yung intercooler nya)

    o kaya naman iba ang setting sa ecu ng makers - yung iba geared for power, yung ibang manufacturer, conscious sa emissions kaya medyo mababa lang.

    just my opinion, I might be really wrong.

  2. #22
    ang crdi parang Pentium-4 processor lang din yan

    depende sa displacement, at intake... sa P4, may non-HT at HT, at pagagaiba ng system-bus

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    #23
    I have always been amazed on CRDi comparisons ever since they introduced this revolutionary engine here in our country. After hearing all the sales pitch, hyped promotions/claims, power here economy there, I think that the most important feature of a CRDi engine is RELIABILITY

    You may have the most powerful, economical wonder-of-an-engine CRDi but what really matters in the long run is will it stand the test of time.

    Just my 2 cents .

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    #24
    eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?

    Meron na ba sa inyo experience na maitim na usok sa korean crdi?

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    #25
    Sa ngayon, Hyundai/Kia yata ang nakakalamang when it comes to CRDI engines and i'm quite sure na nag-iisip ng mabuti mga car companies kung papano nila malalagpasan ito

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by suv View Post
    eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?

    Meron na ba sa inyo experience na maitim na usok sa korean crdi?
    Euro 4 is the emission standard in effect since January 2005 in Europe... it means that it has less carbon monoxide, less nitrous oxide, less hydro oxide, and less particulate matter than previous emission standards (Euro 1-Euro 3). in lay man's terms, when a vehicle is Euro 4 compliant, it has cleaner emissions than Euro 2 and Euro 3 compliant vehicles. as of now wala pa ako nakikita na umusok na CRDi. kung may uusok man lang, dahil na yun sa kulan sa oil na nilalagy sa engine...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrocks View Post
    Sa ngayon, Hyundai/Kia yata ang nakakalamang when it comes to CRDI engines and i'm quite sure na nag-iisip ng mabuti mga car companies kung papano nila malalagpasan ito
    i beg to differ, but i think the Europeans are leading the CRDi fight in our country, with the likes of BMW, Volvo, Audi/Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Land Rover. for example, the 2.0 inline-4 diesel engine of BMW produces 163 ps and 340 Nm, same as the power of Toyota's 3.0 D-4D...

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by hominid View Post
    Basta for now ang pinaka maganda un sa Hyundai/Kia. Pinaka bulok sa Toyota.
    Hehehe, lets get it on!!! yota fanbois agree ba kayo?

    Quote Originally Posted by suv View Post
    eh yung mga Euro 4 compliance ano naman yun?
    It means your engine will have less emissions when you use EURO 4 Spec'd diesel fuel (clean diesel). But the fuel there in Phils is dirty so it's kinda useless.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Euronorms_Diesel.png

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Euronorms_Petrol.png
    Last edited by Camgen6; November 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 AM.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Euro 4 is the emission standard in effect since January 2005 in Europe... it means that it has less carbon monoxide, less nitrous oxide, less hydro oxide, and less particulate matter than previous emission standards (Euro 1-Euro 3). in lay man's terms, when a vehicle is Euro 4 compliant, it has cleaner emissions than Euro 2 and Euro 3 compliant vehicles. as of now wala pa ako nakikita na umusok na CRDi. kung may uusok man lang, dahil na yun sa kulan sa oil na nilalagy sa engine...



    i beg to differ, but i think the Europeans are leading the CRDi fight in our country, with the likes of BMW, Volvo, Audi/Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Land Rover. for example, the 2.0 inline-4 diesel engine of BMW produces 163 ps and 340 Nm, same as the power of Toyota's 3.0 D-4D...
    Binabantayan ko palagi ang Sorento na nakikita ko sa daan kung may usuk o wala. And I agree, wala pa akong nakita na Sorento na umuusuk. D4D na pickup? o meron na, kita ko dahil sinubukan kong habulin nong nakuha ko ang bago kong SF.

    Ikabig na rin cguro natin ang HYUNDAI/KIA sa European dahil they adopted the European system of the CRDI technology. Siguro ang ibig sabihin ng previous poster ay ang current market share kung sino nga ba ang mabilis mabenta ngayon sa mga CRDI models sa atin. HYUNDAI/KIA seems like the current choice sa mga nakakaalam, seems going to be the defacto in the future (kung tutulog tulog ang mga competitors sa pansitan) and seems to be getting there.

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    #29
    I've seen a d4d innova belch black soot for a short moment

    depende rin ata sa diesel quality yung composition ng emissions.

    as of now our diesel can't compare to the one being used in EU and the US. ultra low sulfur kasi gamit dun e.

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    #30
    i testdrove my friend's Innova E (2.5 d4d, m/t )last week, the power just felt like their 2004 Revo S (2.0 EFI Gas), but very far from the power output from the 2.2 CRDI Santa Fe a/t, alang whiplash e.

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