Installing a Hurricane Engine Air Filter, worth it po ba?

[attyallanlatras]

Tried searching here if merong reviews on Hurricane engine air filters pero wala akong nakita. So I am asking if installing one is worth it. My ride is a Fortuner 2016 diesel...

[GTi]

^How much is the Hurricane? Perhaps you may want K&N instead. Well received by racers and tuning shops alike.

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[babkalakal]

Tried searching here if merong reviews on Hurricane engine air filters pero wala akong nakita. So I am asking if installing one is worth it. My ride is a Fortuner 2016 diesel...

Ito yun stainless steel mesh filter diba. Better K&N I think. meron dito sa Navara forum 12vdc shared ata the picture yun impeller ng turbo nag wear out slowly destroying the turbo over time. I guess the steel mesh did not filter the finer particles enough.

[StockEngine]

100$ is barya for you.. get it with an ecu reflash with dyno..

dont forget fluids intervals

[Wh1stl3r]

My personal take: if your ride is stock and you plan to keep it for a long time, just use the oem filter.

If you want to save on air filters by using reusable Hurricane or K&N at least be informed that they do not filter as well as oem and will cause accelerated wear over time.

If you plan to get more power via reflash/chip and the tune requires more air than the stock airbox can provide, then start thinking about getting a freer flowing intake.

Even then there are other options that can provide more air while filtering at the same micron level as oem. Clue: all the filter media used are paper.

[monty_GTV]

i'll go for K&N as well. my 2012 old suv had it since and now its over 185k+ kms and still using the same K&N air filter.

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[baludoy]

i'll go for K&N as well. my 2012 old suv had it since and now its over 185k+ kms and still using the same K&N air filter.

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Same here.

I've had no problems with it. Even my fd2 is fitted w/ one.



do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

[kkreuk18]

K&n din gamit ko. Hesitant ako dati kasi sabi nila di daw gano nakakafilter ng husto, na mas ok daw un oem. Pero bumili pa din ako kasi ang mahal nung oem. After 20k km na gamit un k&n, tinignan ko un loob ng ng air filter box, malinis, pinunasan ko pa ng tissue para makita kung malinis talaga. After 43k km un maf sensor naman ang tinignan ko, malinis din.
Magkaiba ang hurricane at k&n filters. Dun ka na sa tested

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[Wh1stl3r]

Just reposting BITOG Jim Allen's take on oiled filter media:

An oiled cotton gauze filter (OCG), and K&N is only one manufacturer of them, is at the low end of the efficiency scale amongst the available filters, both OEM and aftermarket (excluding offshore, noname junk) . It doesn't fall below the "industry standard" of about 97 percent on coarse test dust (in fact most OCG will show about 98+). It's likely a K&N (which is probably the best of the OCG filters out there) would meet the minimum standard for efficiency required by most vehicle and engine manufacturers, outside of commercial agricultural and heavy duty applications. Remember... minimum standard.

So yes, you can safely say OCG filters are "adequate" in the efficiency department but they are nowhere near the top of the food chain there. In general, they are chosen for their high flow rates and longevity. This is why they are synonymous with performance engines. Performance engines are usually operated in fairly clean environments, because they are fun vehicles rather than daily drivers or workers, or they are used where the rigors of racing will overcome the engine long before the increased wear from less-than-stellar filtration efficiency. And if a vehicle operates in what is largely a clean-air venue, air filter efficiency is less an issue.

IMO, OCG filters are a legacy product from the days when OE air filter efficiency was generally low, flow rates were abysmal (it was the housing design as much as the elements) and when you used the old filters in dusty environments, they plugged up quickly. A K&N was a Godsend in that situation. You got an air filter that let your engine actually BREATHE, it held a lot of dirt, plus the efficiency was about the same as the filter you replaced and often better. What was not to like! You were an idiot not to glom on!

Air filter technology has marched well past those days. The OEM are largely designing filter systems that have adequate if not superior airflow to more than meet the engine's needs (there are exceptions, of course). Average efficiency is 96-97% plus on FINE test dust (99+ on coarse) and capacity has doubled or tripled versus the olden days. In that environment, it's harder for a OCG filter to compete based on the facts but legend and lore are carrying them beyond their era a bit.

With any engine, cleaner air is best from the wear standpoint as the dirt that comes in from the intake is the worst for the engine and it can begin a chain reaction of wear... wear begets wear. And you want a filter that gets out a lot of the fines because the fines are the bits that get between the rings and cylinder the easiest, causes damage there and then gets into the oil and because these fines (1-20 um) are usually too small to be caught by the oil filter in large numbers, so they continue to circulate and cause wear.

In the past decade or so, air filter rating has been standardized to the ISO 5011 protocol but remember one important fact... the test allows the use of EITHER coarse or fine test dust. In evaluating filters, you need to know which. A filter that shows 98 percent on coarse will show 92-94 percent on fine. If you see a rating and it doesn't specify which, assume coarse because those are the best braggin' numbers. And yes, you can find filters that will produce 99+ percent on FINE and those are the best choices for engine longevity. Remember that a finer filter may have a shorter service life, but the modern synthetic media filters can combine high capacity with high efficiency. Short service life is more an issue with high efficiency cellulose media filters but even then, this can be accounted for by an increase in media (more pleats) or a larger filter (if the package size will permit... i.e. more underhood room for a larger filter).

So, I guess the question you have to ask yourself... and I won't call you a punk like DIrty Harry might... what is it you want to achieve? If it's a stock vehicle used as transportation, what's the advantage to likely taking a hit in the efficiency department? If it's a high performance car and you are considering an improvement for performance sake, the OCG choice is nearer the mark but consider that many of the dry aftermarket elements, like the one you mentioned, usually have efficiency superior to OCG but with virtually equal flow rates per square inch of media and if they don't, they just engineer MORE media in the filter to make it so. I could quote chapter and verse on some of the media I've looked at, but since I've done all that before, I'll suggest you just look back at my past posts.

Final thoughts here. I was given a chart by an engineer at Parker filtration that illustrates very well the effects of low vs high efficiency air filtration.

Code:
For Every 10 Pounds of Dust Drawn Into the Air Filter Inlet:

EFFICIENCY OF FILTER DUST INTO ENGINE

99.95% 0.005 lbs.
99% 0.10 lbs.
95% 0.50 lbs.
90% 1.0 lbs.

Not saying K&N is bad, just thought the more informed people are about it, the better.

[ParticleX]

Debunking the K&N Myth – Why OEM is Better

TL;DR

• low filter efficiency
• low dirt capacity
• hign % of dirt passed
• good air flow

[StockEngine]

Debunking the K&N Myth – Why OEM is Better

TL;DR

• low filter efficiency
• low dirt capacity
• hign % of dirt passed
• good air flow

search results for piston and cylinder damage by dirt thru air filter are nice lol

[yebo]

Maybe what ts means by "worth it" is not refering to performance but cost, since changing oem filters at the casa is quite harmful to his wallet? He has a 2016 fortuner so i assume it was casa maintained the past 3 years. A reusable filter, after all, costs less than 2 of the price of the oem. If so, then he needs to balance his savings on replacing oem filters vs the additional wear and tear the ocb filter will result to to his engine. Would ordinary (non-ocb) replacement filters be a better solution to ts' intents? They are priced a third of the cost of oem filters. Do these replacement filters equal the filtratiion efficiency of oem?

[ParticleX]

k&ns for our vehicles cost north of 5000 each. the recharging kit at around 1000 din. some would use 2T or other oils though.

oem filters costs at around 1100-1300. i dust them with an air compressor every 5000KM, and replace every 15000KM

roi is only achieved at the fifth air filter change which is 75000KM

[monty_GTV]

for low mileage use and when periodic maintenance is done once or twice a year, then an oem disposable air filter is just right. in my case, i do PMS minimum 3 times a year so i opted for a washable type air filter. iirc, oem air filter is P1.2k in casa, so thats P3.6k a year budget. my vehicle is more than 6 yrs old/185k+ kms now so i must have spent about P21.6k equiv for air filter alone if i'd stick to oem. the washable air filter was 4.2k back then and still in good shape and do its job until now. sulit na and the savings i had if you convert it to liters of fuel, ilang daang litro din yun. and so far, wala naman isyu sa engine cause by dirt or other particles na nakapasok sa engine internals probably thru air intake.

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[12vdc]

If TS is after longevity of engine and saving cost then aftermarket cheap good quality filters are everywhere.

The sakura air filter cost P200 or less, for regular use i'd replace them twice or thrice a year.

Same with oils and other filters, get the cheapest but good quality, even if you frequently replace them(2-3x more) its still cheaper than casa parts. Replace them frequently and your car will last loong.

[StockEngine]

man that engine will last 300,000- 500,000km

using these highflow airfilters filters will reduce that number to some extent.

how long do you really want to keep that fortuner?

[Lin Dan]

If TS is after longevity of engine and saving cost then aftermarket cheap good quality filters are everywhere.

The sakura air filter cost P200 or less, for regular use i'd replace them twice or thrice a year.

Same with oils and other filters, get the cheapest but good quality, even if you frequently replace them(2-3x more) its still cheaper than casa parts. Replace them frequently and your car will last loong.

This is what I do too. I change the air filter (replacement only) with every oil change interval or 5,000 kms.

[JapanABC]

My personal take: if your ride is stock and you plan to keep it for a long time, just use the oem filter.

If you want to save on air filters by using reusable Hurricane or K&N at least be informed that they do not filter as well as oem and will cause accelerated wear over time.

If you plan to get more power via reflash/chip and the tune requires more air than the stock airbox can provide, then start thinking about getting a freer flowing intake.

Even then there are other options that can provide more air while filtering at the same micron level as oem. Clue: all the filter media used are paper.

I agree with your findings because there are evidences now showing how this so called reusable filters can not filter out as good as those O.E. type filters.

Be careful guys on what you install on your cars especially air filters that claim to be washable performance filters, it will shorten the lifespan of your engine and make it more inefficient faster than normal as time goes by using re-usable "performance" filters.

K&N and BMG filters tested in the United States of America:

1. Which Car Air Filter is Best? Let's find out! Fram, K&N, Wix, Purolator, & AC Delco showdown - YouTube

2. Do performance air filters like BMC, K&N, Sprint let more sand and dust than OEM and is it worth it? - YouTube

K&N filters checked by Master Garage PH, apparently sand and other much smaller particles are going through K&N's air filter even with oil applied from K&N recharger.

Gen 3 Montero Air filter? todas!! - Master Garage - Cavite