Help in Engine Overhaul (2007 Toyota Avanza G 1.5)

**yellahfellah** · September 4th, 2015 07:00 PM

Our car is a 2007 Toyota Avanza G 1.5 AT Engine. I have been busy in the province since early this year and I forgot to have the oil changed. Last week, my son was driving the car when the dashboard indicator light for the oil lit up. However, he did not know what it meant so drive on pa rin siya until kumatok na nga ang engine dahil natuyo na ang engine oil. Upon consulting with a shop and other knowledgeable friends, the conclusion was that an engine overhaul was needed. So I had the car towed (flatbed) to a friend's shop and when the engine was brought down and disassembled, they cleaned it and told me to bring it to a machine shop. According to them, the machine shop will determine which parts would be needed to be replaced and what parts could be salvaged. They would also be doing other things required for the overhaul.

I brought the engine to a machine shop near our house and the estimate they gave me amounted to almost P46K!!! This was only for the works that they would be doing and excluded the cost of the parts to be bought.

Ganito ba talaga ang gastos ng engine overhaul??? Can you recommend me a cheaper, but reliable machine shop? PLS. PM ME... Ang location ko is near west Ave. in Quezon City. Tomorrow, I will be going to another machine shop located at Roosevelt Ave. near the corner of Quezon Ave. to compare the work needed to be done and their costs.

FYI, the shop I initially consulted with (also near our place) told me their labor would be a flat rate of P17k, and that the machine shop cost would be around P10k and cost of parts would depend on the condition of the engine pag binaba na at dinismantle. Rough estimate nila was a total cost of around P50k.

PLEASE HELP GUYS, I NEED YOUR ADVICE!!!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

**dr. d** · September 4th, 2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yellahfellah

Our car is a 2007 Toyota Avanza G 1.5 AT Engine. I have been busy in the province since early this year and I forgot to have the oil changed. Last week, my son was driving the car when the dashboard indicator light for the oil lit up. However, he did not know what it meant so drive on pa rin siya until kumatok na nga ang engine dahil natuyo na ang engine oil. Upon consulting with a shop and other knowledgeable friends, the conclusion was that an engine overhaul was needed. So I had the car towed (flatbed) to a friend's shop and when the engine was brought down and disassembled, they cleaned it and told me to bring it to a machine shop. According to them, the machine shop will determine which parts would be needed to be replaced and what parts could be salvaged. They would also be doing other things required for the overhaul.

I brought the engine to a machine shop near our house and the estimate they gave me amounted to almost P46K!!! This was only for the works that they would be doing and excluded the cost of the parts to be bought.

Ganito ba talaga ang gastos ng engine overhaul??? Can you recommend me a cheaper, but reliable machine shop? PLS. PM ME... Ang location ko is near west Ave. in Quezon City. Tomorrow, I will be going to another machine shop located at Roosevelt Ave. near the corner of Quezon Ave. to compare the work needed to be done and their costs.

FYI, the shop I initially consulted with (also near our place) told me their labor would be a flat rate of P17k, and that the machine shop cost would be around P10k and cost of parts would depend on the condition of the engine pag binaba na at dinismantle. Rough estimate nila was a total cost of around P50k.

PLEASE HELP GUYS, I NEED YOUR ADVICE!!!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

perhaps if you listed down the jobs they will be doing, someone can offer cheaper alternatives.
for example.. it might be cheaper to buy a new crankshaft than to have yours machined..
or, it might be cheaper to buy a surplus engine, than have yours fixed!
good luck,sir.

**miko101130** · September 4th, 2015 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by yellahfellah

Our car is a 2007 Toyota Avanza G 1.5 AT Engine. I have been busy in the province since early this year and I forgot to have the oil changed. Last week, my son was driving the car when the dashboard indicator light for the oil lit up. However, he did not know what it meant so drive on pa rin siya until kumatok na nga ang engine dahil natuyo na ang engine oil. Upon consulting with a shop and other knowledgeable friends, the conclusion was that an engine overhaul was needed. So I had the car towed (flatbed) to a friend's shop and when the engine was brought down and disassembled, they cleaned it and told me to bring it to a machine shop. According to them, the machine shop will determine which parts would be needed to be replaced and what parts could be salvaged. They would also be doing other things required for the overhaul.

I brought the engine to a machine shop near our house and the estimate they gave me amounted to almost P46K!!! This was only for the works that they would be doing and excluded the cost of the parts to be bought.

Ganito ba talaga ang gastos ng engine overhaul??? Can you recommend me a cheaper, but reliable machine shop? PLS. PM ME... Ang location ko is near west Ave. in Quezon City. Tomorrow, I will be going to another machine shop located at Roosevelt Ave. near the corner of Quezon Ave. to compare the work needed to be done and their costs.

FYI, the shop I initially consulted with (also near our place) told me their labor would be a flat rate of P17k, and that the machine shop cost would be around P10k and cost of parts would depend on the condition of the engine pag binaba na at dinismantle. Rough estimate nila was a total cost of around P50k.

PLEASE HELP GUYS, I NEED YOUR ADVICE!!!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

hindi pa naman naibaba ang engine at nabubuksan loob. you won't know the true extent of the damage unless you tear it down.

kung damaged na ang internal parts mo, wala nang need pa i-pa machine shop yung repalceable parts. papalitan mu yan.

the machine shop will usually revolve around the valves, and crankshaft area.

ang bulk of work will be the overhaul in the car shop. sila mag tatangal at magbabalik ng lahat.

mag canvas ka muna nang MAIN BEARING/THRUST WASHER/ OVERHAULING GASKET SET/CYLINDER HEAD BOLT ETC.....

first canvas ka muna mga probable parts to be repalced, then hanap ka shop na matino at reliable trabaho ( isang gawaan at bukasan lang) , then
pabaklas mo engine mo, tignan ano extent damage, then saka mo masisigurado ang singil ng machine shop by that time. and mas definite na ang price na aabutin mo sa total work.

**yellahfellah** · September 4th, 2015 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by miko101130

hindi pa naman naibaba ang engine at nabubuksan loob. you won't know the true extent of the damage unless you tear it down.

kung damaged na ang internal parts mo, wala nang need pa i-pa machine shop yung repalceable parts. papalitan mu yan.

the machine shop will usually revolve around the valves, and crankshaft area.

ang bulk of work will be the overhaul in the car shop. sila mag tatangal at magbabalik ng lahat.

mag canvas ka muna nang MAIN BEARING/THRUST WASHER/ OVERHAULING GASKET SET/CYLINDER HEAD BOLT ETC.....

first canvas ka muna mga probable parts to be repalced, then hanap ka shop na matino at reliable trabaho ( isang gawaan at bukasan lang) , then
pabaklas mo engine mo, tignan ano extent damage, then saka mo masisigurado ang singil ng machine shop by that time. and mas definite na ang price na aabutin mo sa total work.

Sir miko101130, naibaba na po ang makina at dinala ko na nga sa machine shop and they gave me nga a job quotation which i already attached. If you will analyze the job quotation, you will note the parts to be replaced and also the parts which will need to be machined. Based on that, you can also surmise/conclude the extent of the damage. Hindi po ako maalam sa mechanical engines, but i know that most car enthusiasts can understand and analyze the attached job quotation and form an opinion based on it. Hopefully, you can, too...

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Originally Posted by miko101130

hindi pa naman naibaba ang engine at nabubuksan loob. you won't know the true extent of the damage unless you tear it down.

kung damaged na ang internal parts mo, wala nang need pa i-pa machine shop yung repalceable parts. papalitan mu yan.

the machine shop will usually revolve around the valves, and crankshaft area.

ang bulk of work will be the overhaul in the car shop. sila mag tatangal at magbabalik ng lahat.

mag canvas ka muna nang MAIN BEARING/THRUST WASHER/ OVERHAULING GASKET SET/CYLINDER HEAD BOLT ETC.....

first canvas ka muna mga probable parts to be repalced, then hanap ka shop na matino at reliable trabaho ( isang gawaan at bukasan lang) , then
pabaklas mo engine mo, tignan ano extent damage, then saka mo masisigurado ang singil ng machine shop by that time. and mas definite na ang price na aabutin mo sa total work.

Sir miko101130, naibaba na po ang makina at dinala ko na nga sa machine shop and they gave me nga a job quotation which i already attached. If you will analyze the job quotation, you will note the parts to be replaced and also the parts which will need to be machined. Based on that, you can also surmise/conclude the extent of the damage. Hindi po ako maalam sa mechanical engines, but i know that most car enthusiasts can understand and analyze the attached job quotation and form an opinion based on it. Hopefully, you can, too...

**rey752** · September 4th, 2015 07:25 PM

Sir try to call Shurfit Incorporated.the shop is located at Potrero Malabon,along Mc Arthur Highway lang sya.before naka pag pa machine shop kami sakanila ng engine pero alam ko nasa 4 Digit lang price non.pero kami bumibili ng valve seat saka ung base daw.same condition din katok ung engine.pero Toyota 2C-T ung engine na yon naputulan ng timing belt.I dunno kung mas mahal sa Avanza kase for me pareparehas lang silang metal haha.

**dr. d** · September 4th, 2015 07:29 PM

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errr... what does "kumatok ang engine" mean?
personally, if the car got home on its own power, that's a relatively good sign.

and yes... things might change for the better or for the worse, once that engine is opened.

btw... is the car insured?

**yellahfellah** · September 4th, 2015 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

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errr... what does "kumatok ang engine" mean?
personally, if the car got home on its own power, that's a relatively good sign.

and yes... things might change for the better or for the worse, once that engine is opened.

btw... is the car insured?

Nung "kumatok na yung engine", naghanap yung anak ko ng gas station at duon na nila nalaman sa gas station attendant na hindi na dapat nila ibyahe ang sasakyan. Naka-insured naman with Standard Insurance so I availed of their FREE ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE & TOWING from there to our house in QC.

As for what "kumatok ang engine" means, I understand that it is a general term that most car enthusiasts supposedly understand. Personally, it sounds just like that... a knocking sound produced by the engine when it is running. As for its implications, kelangan nga ibaba ang makina & i-disassemble to find out the extent of the damage and what parts needs to be replaced. But I assume you already know that. So why ask the question?

**dr. d** · September 4th, 2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yellahfellah

Nung "kumatok na yung engine", naghanap yung anak ko ng gas station at duon na nila nalaman sa gas station attendant na hindi na dapat nila ibyahe ang sasakyan. Naka-insured naman with Standard Insurance so I availed of their FREE ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE & TOWING from there to our house in QC.

As for what "kumatok ang engine" means, I understand that it is a general term that most car enthusiasts supposedly understand. Personally, it sounds just like that... a knocking sound produced by the engine when it is running. As for its implications, kelangan nga ibaba ang makina & i-disassemble to find out the extent of the damage and what parts needs to be replaced. But I assume you already know that. So why ask the question?

no offense meant, but honestly, i do not know what the guy who said it, really meant.
very loosely, it can mean "there's something wrong with the engine", or, literally, the engine is making strange knocking sounds.. and we all know that can mean so many things to so many people to so many engines..
it can mean something as minor as pre-ignition brought about by mal-adjusted ignition timing or engine overheating, or a broken valve ice-picking its way thru the engine block or head..

**yellahfellah** · September 4th, 2015 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

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no offense meant, but honestly, i do not know what the guy who said it, really meant.
very loosely, it can mean "there's something wrong with the engine", or, literally, the engine is making strange knocking sounds.. and we all know that can mean so many things to so many people to so many engines..
it can mean something as minor as pre-ignition brought about by mal-adjusted ignition timing or engine overheating, or a broken valve ice-picking its way thru the engine block or head..

Sir dr. d, i think it is obvious naman po when "kumatok ang engine" is mentioned in the same paragraph as "the dashboard indicator light for the oil lit up", that more-or-less alam nyo na po kung anong nangyari... I am looking for some help po and do not need people to nitpick my post. i believe i have posted a lot of info already on my problem and hopefully you guys can sift through it to get a good idea as to the extent of damage on our engine. Ayaw ko po makipag pilosopohan sa inyo dahil ang kailangan ko po ay ang tulong ninyo in terms of suggestions as to where to go or what to do, etc.

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Originally Posted by dr. d

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no offense meant, but honestly, i do not know what the guy who said it, really meant.
very loosely, it can mean "there's something wrong with the engine", or, literally, the engine is making strange knocking sounds.. and we all know that can mean so many things to so many people to so many engines..
it can mean something as minor as pre-ignition brought about by mal-adjusted ignition timing or engine overheating, or a broken valve ice-picking its way thru the engine block or head..

Sir dr. d, i think it is obvious naman po when "kumatok ang engine" is mentioned in the same paragraph as "the dashboard indicator light for the oil lit up", that more-or-less alam nyo na po kung anong nangyari... I am looking for some help po and do not need people to nitpick my post. i believe i have posted a lot of info already on my problem and hopefully you guys can sift through it to get a good idea as to the extent of damage on our engine. Ayaw ko po makipag pilosopohan sa inyo dahil ang kailangan ko po ay ang tulong ninyo in terms of suggestions as to where to go or what to do, etc.

**yellahfellah** · September 4th, 2015 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by rey752

Sir try to call Shurfit Incorporated.the shop is located at Potrero Malabon,along Mc Arthur Highway lang sya.before naka pag pa machine shop kami sakanila ng engine pero alam ko nasa 4 Digit lang price non.pero kami bumibili ng valve seat saka ung base daw.same condition din katok ung engine.pero Toyota 2C-T ung engine na yon naputulan ng timing belt.I dunno kung mas mahal sa Avanza kase for me pareparehas lang silang metal haha.

sir rey752, thanks po for your suggestion. I will go there tomorrow with our engine and get a job estimate from them...