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    tanong naman po. napansin ko lang pag coldstart, mag auto rev sya ng mga 1.5rpm. pag nagmamadali ako at kailangan na umalis at nag revolution na ako, me engine knock.

    pero pag hinayaan ko mag warm up to 5mins bago ako umalis, wala knocking.

    pa help naman po


    avanza j
    1.3
    2007 model

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong naman po. napansin ko lang pag coldstart, mag auto rev sya ng mga 1.5rpm. pag nagmamadali ako at kailangan na umalis at nag revolution na ako, me engine knock.

    pero pag hinayaan ko mag warm up to 5mins bago ako umalis, wala knocking.

    pa help naman po


    avanza j
    1.3
    2007 model
    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs?
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve?
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo?
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound?

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong naman po. napansin ko lang pag coldstart, mag auto rev sya ng mga 1.5rpm. pag nagmamadali ako at kailangan na umalis at nag revolution na ako, me engine knock.

    pero pag hinayaan ko mag warm up to 5mins bago ako umalis, wala knocking.

    pa help naman po


    avanza j
    1.3
    2007 model
    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs?
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve?
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo?
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound?

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

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    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs?
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve?
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo?
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound?

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

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    Sir,
    Mga ilang katanungan lang po:
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs?
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve?
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo?
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound?

    *Minsan po pag nagmamadali kayo at wala pa sa operating temp ang engine eh naka auto choke pa po kaya masyadong rich o mataas pa ang timpla ng fuel kumpara sa air kaya nagkakaroon ng knocking.

    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

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    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay
    So ngayon lang po ba sumulpot yun sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay

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    1. Kailan po kayo huling nagpapalit ng spark plugs? every 10k
    2. Nagpatanggal po ba kayo ng thermostat valve? nope
    3. Hinde po ba kayo nagpalit ng type ng fuel na ginagamit ninyo? i use silver, petron super or shell fuel save
    4. Lagi po nyo ba o madalas po ba yun mga sitwasyon na nagmamadali kayo pero noon wala at ngayon lang po ba nagkaroon ng knocking sound? lagi ako mga 1-2 mins na warm up then andar na pero slowly lng kasi pababa naman yong road mula sa bahay
    So ngayon lang po ba sumulpot yun sound?

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    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.

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    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.

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    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.
    Yep, my bad. Thanks sa pag correct po sir.
    What I meant is yun pag enrich ng fuel kompara sa air kaya during cold start at ginamit agad eh parang na tope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.

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    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.
    Yep, my bad. Thanks sa pag correct po sir.
    What I meant is yun pag enrich ng fuel kompara sa air kaya during cold start at ginamit agad eh parang na tope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.

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    Walang auto choke yan avanza kasi EFI na yan. Sa carb lang may auto choke.
    To TS. Try mo muna mag pa change oil.
    naisip ko din ito na unang subukan. although regular ang change oil ko every 5k . 62.5k pa lang sya ngyon. mineral oil po gamit ko

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnytwarrior View Post
    So ngayon lang po ba sumulpot yun sound?

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    So ngayon lang po ba sumulpot yun sound?
    yes po this week lang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong naman po. napansin ko lang pag coldstart, mag auto rev sya ng mga 1.5rpm. pag nagmamadali ako at kailangan na umalis at nag revolution na ako, me engine knock.

    pero pag hinayaan ko mag warm up to 5mins bago ako umalis, wala knocking.

    pa help naman po


    avanza j
    1.3
    2007 model
    Normal lang yan sir.

    piston slap yung knocking sound na nadidinig mo. normal kung malamig pa engine, kapag normal operating temperature na, nawawala na yung knocking sound, tama po ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    tanong naman po. napansin ko lang pag coldstart, mag auto rev sya ng mga 1.5rpm. pag nagmamadali ako at kailangan na umalis at nag revolution na ako, me engine knock.

    pero pag hinayaan ko mag warm up to 5mins bago ako umalis, wala knocking.

    pa help naman po


    avanza j
    1.3
    2007 model
    Normal lang yan sir.

    piston slap yung knocking sound na nadidinig mo. normal kung malamig pa engine, kapag normal operating temperature na, nawawala na yung knocking sound, tama po ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    sa casa ako nag pa 60k, so i assume tama ang plugs nila. pero malay mo mali nga nalagay... isip ko rin baka carbon build up. ok ba yong techron na fuel additive?
    Best way to clean carbon build-up is to take the car on the higway or open road and.drive it hard. You dont have to go high speed but making the vehicle reach redline on 1st-2nd-3rd gears with the a/c off helps.

    Check also the fuel you use; could be a semI bad load of gas.

    On the MAF sensor, that the sensor right after the airbox. If your mileage is already 60K and it hasnt been cleaned then chances are it's dirty. This reads the air inflow and helps calibrate the A-F mixture; during cold starts an engine runs rich on the AF mix and the detonation means you might be running lean on the cold start. You can buy electrical contact cleaner, remove the MAF and spray the sensor hotwires inside (jusy spray and let dry, dont touch it).

    After cleaning the MAF, you can also disconnect the battery for a while to let the ECU reset. When you restart it might stumble a bit but as the settings adjust you'll settle back to a steady warmup idle.

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    Sikat ang toyota sa sludge build up, anyway, pa scan mo muna sasakyan mo kung may obd yan. Linisan mo rin ang butterfly ng sasakyan mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Sikat ang toyota sa sludge build up, anyway, pa scan mo muna sasakyan mo kung may obd yan. Linisan mo rin ang butterfly ng sasakyan mo.
    I have a 23 y.o. Toyota previa that went through three a/c evaporators and 8 sets of tires and never have problem with sludge. Nothing special, I change the engine oil at 7,500 miles or six months. Just keep the engine at operating temperatures and use the right oil ( API SH or higher). Never tamper with the cooling system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Sikat ang toyota sa sludge build up, anyway, pa scan mo muna sasakyan mo kung may obd yan. Linisan mo rin ang butterfly ng sasakyan mo.
    san po pwede scan and what is obd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Sikat ang toyota sa sludge build up, anyway, pa scan mo muna sasakyan mo kung may obd yan. Linisan mo rin ang butterfly ng sasakyan mo.
    san po pwede scan and what is obd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Sikat ang toyota sa sludge build up, anyway, pa scan mo muna sasakyan mo kung may obd yan. Linisan mo rin ang butterfly ng sasakyan mo.
    This is somewhat misleading if you ask me.

    The Toyota engine that is prone to sludge is the 1.6L from the 2001 to 2007 Altis. I have a 2007 model (running on LPG at that) and to date at 115,000kms there's still no sludge and the last compression test at Speedyfix (at around 80,000kms) showed healthy cylinders across the board. I replace the oil every 5,000kms and i understand those who had sludge were the ones who used synthetic oil and extended the drain interval to 10,000kms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    This is somewhat misleading if you ask me.

    The Toyota engine that is prone to sludge is the 1.6L from the 2001 to 2007 Altis. I have a 2007 model (running on LPG at that) and to date at 115,000kms there's still no sludge and the last compression test at Speedyfix (at around 80,000kms) showed healthy cylinders across the board. I replace the oil every 5,000kms and i understand those who had sludge were the ones who used synthetic oil and extended the drain interval to 10,000kms.
    Unless there have been minor modifications on that engine, I believe the 1.6L engine of the 10G Altis up to 2010 also use the 01-07 ZZ engine.

    Yung facelifted Altis na iniba yung tail lights yung may different ZR engine na.
    Last edited by mda; August 17th, 2015 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Unless there have been minor modifications on that engine, I believe the 1.6L engine of the 10G Altis up to 2010 also use the 01-07 ZZ engine.

    Yung facelifted Altis na iniba yung tail lights yung may different ZR engine na.
    I stand corrected. The Gen 10 also used the same engine from the Gen 9 and 9.5. The ZR engine is good and how i wish they had something similar on the Vios/Yaris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    I stand corrected. The Gen 10 also used the same engine from the Gen 9 and 9.5. The ZR engine is good and how i wish they had something similar on the Vios/Yaris.
    so ang avanza ba e known ba for sludge build up>???

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    I stand corrected. The Gen 10 also used the same engine from the Gen 9 and 9.5. The ZR engine is good and how i wish they had something similar on the Vios/Yaris.
    so ang avanza ba e known ba for sludge build up>???

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    This is somewhat misleading if you ask me.

    The Toyota engine that is prone to sludge is the 1.6L from the 2001 to 2007 Altis. I have a 2007 model (running on LPG at that) and to date at 115,000kms there's still no sludge and the last compression test at Speedyfix (at around 80,000kms) showed healthy cylinders across the board. I replace the oil every 5,000kms and i understand those who had sludge were the ones who used synthetic oil and extended the drain interval to 10,000kms.
    Long interval + tendency to forget = recipe for sludge

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    Even the Diesel Toyotas are prone to oil sludge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    so ang avanza ba e known ba for sludge build up>???

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    so ang avanza ba e known ba for sludge build up>???
    Nope. Just change the oil regularly (5000kms), even with just regular oil, and it will be fine.

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