E10 gasoline on carb engines [MERGED THREADS]

[CoolSwitch]

89 nissan maxima.... CARBED

So far so good... looks like even running better... pero sempre bantay din

wala na yata gas station na di naka-E10 dito sa laguna eh, or even sa pilipinas, maliban lang sa mangilan ngilan na small time gas stations

[shadow_vmn]

mga ka-tsikot, dito rin sa issue na to ako concerned. carb din yung engine ng pizza ko, pero dahil sa mga narinig kong feedback,Caltex Gold na yung pinapakarga ko, all the while meron na din palang e10 yun! napansin ko pa, hindi maganda timing ng engine pag nagpakarga ng e10, tapos minsan namamatayan din ako ng makina. mga paps, pati na rin sa mga ka-pizza dyan, help naman sa issue na to! i really appreciate it if you can enlighten me sa troubling issue na ito. thanks!

[ghosthunter]

mga ka-tsikot, dito rin sa issue na to ako concerned. carb din yung engine ng pizza ko, pero dahil sa mga narinig kong feedback,Caltex Gold na yung pinapakarga ko, all the while meron na din palang e10 yun! napansin ko pa, hindi maganda timing ng engine pag nagpakarga ng e10, tapos minsan namamatayan din ako ng makina. mga paps, pati na rin sa mga ka-pizza dyan, help naman sa issue na to! i really appreciate it if you can enlighten me sa troubling issue na ito. thanks!

If you have Petron in your area, try using BLAZE because it doesn't have E10.

[joyluck614]

Ask ko lang, iba po ba yun blaze sa xcs? thanks!

[CivicVTi]

Ask ko lang, iba po ba yun blaze sa xcs? thanks!

Yup magkaiba sila. As of now ang Blaze wala pang halong ethanol (E10), ang XCS meron na. Mas mataas din ang octane rating ng Blaze compared sa XCS kaya mas mahal sya.

[joyluck614]

Yup magkaiba sila. As of now ang Blaze wala pang halong ethanol (E10), ang XCS meron na. Mas mataas din ang octane rating ng Blaze compared sa XCS kaya mas mahal sya.

Thanks sa mabilis na reply, so sasabihin ko sa petron na blaze ang ilagay, lagi kasi nila ako itinuturo sa nakasulat XCS, di ko naman mahanap un pump ng blaze na type

[IAmLawrence]

Mga Boss and D15 Vtec MT ba ay compatible din sa E10? I saw the link from hondaphils website regarding the e10 compatible engine but I assume that those are the locally manufactured engines (correct me if I'm wrong).

Please advice naman. Thanks

[arnarn]

Since meron na ding e10 ang Gold tsaka XCS, sa tingin nyo same lang din ang effect ng Silver/Extra? at least mas mura ang Silver/Extra.

[OldSchoolHack]

It is pointless to insist any fuel right now is non-ethanol blended. All of them are.

Yun nga lang some are not yet E10. They still have less than 10% Ethanol. By August all will be E10. My source:Biofuel law which takes full effect by August 1, 2010 or four years after it was approved.

Nowadays only old diesel vehicles will work well with Biofuel. Diesel engines are designed with more resistant seals, gaskets and pipes. In fact older diesel engines will have no problem with E10. Mas tolerant lumang engines na diesel, circa 1999 and older. Some of these machines can even run with vegetable oil.

[speed unlimited]

Halos karamihan ng gasoline E10 na .Iyong huling karga ko sa Premium ng Rephil Gas station ay may halong e10 na rin.

[OldSchoolHack]

Di ba E10 breaks down rubber hoses, gaskets and seals?

Is it possible that the seeping out of fuel into the engine bay increase the possibility of fire?

Lately may mga cases na kasi ng cars catching fire in the engine bay especially with older cars. Electrical wiring daw.

But in an engine bay what would catch fire? Di ba yung mga wires lang which are supposed to be made of fire retardant material? What else? Dirt and grease? pwede. But would that burn out the whole bay? Even engine oil does not burn that quickly.

Could it be cause by fuel seeping out of broken rubber hoses, gaskets and seals due to E10 and being ignited by an electrical spark? Scary possibility.

[speed unlimited]

Kadalasan naman na insidente ng sunog sa kotse iyong design ng makina iyong carburator malapit sa distributor na nagbibigay ng kuryente,

[CVT]

Di ba E10 breaks down rubber hoses, gaskets and seals?

Is it possible that the seeping out of fuel into the engine bay increase the possibility of fire?

Lately may mga cases na kasi ng cars catching fire in the engine bay especially with older cars. Electrical wiring daw.

But in an engine bay what would catch fire? Di ba yung mga wires lang which are supposed to be made of fire retardant material? What else? Dirt and grease? pwede. But would that burn out the whole bay? Even engine oil does not burn that quickly.

Could it be cause by fuel seeping out of broken rubber hoses, gaskets and seals due to E10 and being ignited by an electrical spark? Scary possibility.

That is a distinct possibility bro....

And most of our fellow drivers are "trapped" because of this law. Worse, they have not been properly informed.....

9707:electricf:

[ghosthunter]

BIOFUELS LAW:

http://www.alternat1ve.com/biofuel/2...e-philippines/

May 6, the 2006 Biofuel Act was implemented in the Philippines. The Biofuel Law of the Philippines calls for a 5% mixing of Ethanol in gasoline and 1% mixing of biodiesel in the petrodiesel during the first few years of implementation.

From the 2006 Biofuels Law

5.1 Within two (2) years from the effectivity of this Act, at least five percent (5%) bioethanol shall comprise the annual total volume of gasoline fuel actually sold and distributed by each and every oil company in the country, subject to the requirement that all bioethanol blended gasoline shall contain a minimum of five percent (5%) bioethanol fuel by volume: Provided, That the ethanol blend conforms to PNS.

5.2 Within four (4) years from the effectivity of this Act, the NBB created under this Act is empowered to determine the feasibility and thereafter recommend to DOE to mandate a minimum of ten (10%) percent blend of bioethanol by volume into all gasoline fuel distributed and sold by each and every oil company in the country.

In the event of supply shortage of locally-produced bioethanol during the four-year period, oil companies shall be allowed to import bioethanol but only to the extent of the shortage as may be determined by the NBB.

5.3 In lieu of the effectivity of this Act, immediately within three (3) months upon the signing which shall be promulgated upon the approval of this Act of the IRR, a minimum of one percent (1%) biodiesel by volume shall be blended into all diesel engine fuels sold in the country: Provided, That the biodiesel blend conforms to PNS for biodiesel.

Within two (2) years from effectivity of this Act, the NBB created under this Act is empowered to determine the feasibility and thereafter recommend to DOE to mandate a total of two percent (2%) blend of biodiesel by volume subject to domestic supply and availability of locally-sourced biodiesel component.

The deadline for gasoline stations to switch all gasolines to E10-gasolines is May 2010.

[bugs_0119]

sir, mula nung nag karga ako ng e10 may puting usok lumalabas sa tambutso and kapag start muna kelangan painitin kasi hina humatak..ano po kaya recommend gasoline naka lancer 95 ako na carb. thank you

[ghosthunter]

sir, mula nung nag karga ako ng e10 may puting usok lumalabas sa tambutso and kapag start muna kelangan painitin kasi hina humatak..ano po kaya recommend gasoline naka lancer 95 ako na carb. thank you

First have your carb jets checked for erosion.

Next, check what gasoline stations you have nearby.

The following are without-E10 gasolines:
Total = Pro-Tech
Petron = Blaze

[shauskie]

First have your carb jets checked for erosion.

Next, check what gasoline stations you have nearby.

The following are without-E10 gasolines:
Total = Pro-Tech
Petron = Blaze

added:
phoenix gas station - all variant pure gas pa rin
jetti - meron silang lane for e-10 only- regular unleaded lang.

[chinesecarebear]

i have b2200 pick-up but it's gas fed. since luma narin naman na yun engine i'm planning to change my engine to WLT-31. mas tolerant ang diesel engines sa enthanol blended fuels.

as mention earlier, yes, mas madalas ka magpapalit ng fuel filter kasi daming contents na babara. the fuel lines harden na nung gumamit ako ng E10. pero the ride is still running good as of now. pero yun ibang effect ng na masisira yun carb hindi ko pa naeencounter, but i always take a good always and check it up every month kung may changes.

[ghosthunter]

i have b2200 pick-up but it's gas fed. since luma narin naman na yun engine i'm planning to change my engine to WLT-31. mas tolerant ang diesel engines sa enthanol blended fuels.

Just a correction, "ethanol" is only used for blending with gasoline. Bio-diesel is the one used to blend with regular diesel fuel.

[duskylim]

i have b2200 pick-up but it's gas fed. since luma narin naman na yun engine i'm planning to change my engine to WLT-31. mas tolerant ang diesel engines sa enthanol blended fuels.

as mention earlier, yes, mas madalas ka magpapalit ng fuel filter kasi daming contents na babara. the fuel lines harden na nung gumamit ako ng E10. pero the ride is still running good as of now. pero yun ibang effect ng na masisira yun carb hindi ko pa naeencounter, but i always take a good always and check it up every month kung may changes.

Hi carebear:

Whether a BIODIESEL contains methanol (methyl alcohol - CH3OH) or ethanol (ethyl alcohol - C2H5OH) depends upon the exact process used to make it.

Most BIO-DIESEL's are either methyl or ethyl ESTERs.

That is they are blends of a very strong base (usually sodium hydroxide NaOH) added to an anhydrous absolute alcohol (that is a water-free alcohol) and a fatty acid - the "bio-oil" (coconut, rape seed, soybean, etc.) of choice.

Either methyl or ethyl alcohol will do. The choice is up to the manufacturer.

On a small scale (backyard operation), it is however easier to make biodiesels using methanol vs ethanol.

Note: In Organic Chemistry, an ESTER is a combination of an acid and an alcohol.

So ethanol can be used in the making of bio-diesel.

Sincerely,

Dusky Lim