Diesel Engine Maintenance vs Gas Engines

[OTO]

Other thread splintered into how maintenance intensive diesel engines are vs gas engines. What do you folks have to say? Does local diesels need to be more maintained than gas cars?

[bilog]

I think it is how one religiously do preventive maintenance check up on a vehicle. Kahit siguro sabihin natin na mas madali ang maintenance ng diesel engine over gasoline kung di naman marunong magingat ang owner ng gas engine di rin ito magtatagal. I myself follow simple steps in maintaining my car like changing oil ever 5000 and follows what the manual tells me what should be checked or replaced if run for a certain kilometers.

[zeagle]

Compare na lang the price of oil filter. Di hamak na mas mahal ang diesel. Masdami din yata ang oil na kailangan.

[bilog]

I guess the oil filter and the oil capacity would depend on the displacement. Whether it is diesel or gas.

[ILuvDetailing]

How about the calibration of the newer CRDi engines? Do we have the capabilities of calibrating CRDi engines? Diba computerized na dapat at di na mano mano...

[geebunny]

Costwise for the 1st 3 - 5 years, halos pareho lang ang magagastos mo for PMS. Though costs of oil filter and oil are higher for diesel, meron ka naman papalitan na spark plug sa gas. After 3-5 years (depende rin sa pag-gamit), pag- naguusok na ang diesel, mas malaki na ang gastos.

[momoyster]

assuming both engines are new, the diesel engine would only require an oil change and replacement of the oil filter every 5k km. other consumable items such as the fuel and air filters would be replaced but as we all know, di naman ito pinapalitan every 5k km. on the other hand, a gasoline engine requires a different regimen every 5k km. apart from the oil change, another consumable item, apart from your usual array of filters, enters the picture-the sparkplug. bear in mind however, the spark plug is not replaced every 5k km, as technicians still examine the set before replacing them because sound sparkplugs can still be cleaned unless there is severe fouling. as for the long term maintenance, diesel owners have to accept the fact that their engine would require an eventual calibration, several factors dictate when such service would be required but the usual indication is the spewing of black smoke. gasoline engines on the other hand, usually are not associated with calibration yet some service casas perform injector cleaning every 30k km. all in all, i think that diesel engines are only expensive to maintain during their major service requirements such as calibration but are fairly reasonable to maintain as it only requires a periodic oil change every 5k km. gasoline engines have more parts that need to be replaced every pms but seldom require major servicing unlike that of a diesel engine. in short, there are trade-offs involving the two types of engines as regards maintenace.

[jasonub]

oil change lang tune up ng diesel. but of course meron din check fluids etc and clean air filter. replace fuel filter after _kms.

[OTEP]

Diesels are pretty easy to maintain. There is not ignition system to think of. Mostly just fluids, filters and other consumables.

Even my 28 year old ride is yet to be calibrated.

[Innova_Boy]

you mean otep your pajero is 28 years old na?...... joke joke...he he

WBR, ;)

[luckytruck]

i had a 1997 pajero and i loved it. maintennance was not that big a deal. especially if you know where to get replacement filters and other parts. kung casa gamitin mo, mahal talaga.

andy

[ILuvDetailing]

Innova_Boy: I think Otep was refering to his MB W128.

[Mojo]

pag wala sira ang engine, just running cost, mag mura ang diesel. it just depends on what fluids ilalagay mo.

kung puro mamahalin fluids ilalagay mo, mapamahal ka talaga, if you go bare minimum to run your diesel vehicle, mas mura diesel, fluids at filter lang pinapalitan. walang spark plug, contact point, condenser, pinapalitan

[mazdamazda]

if you go bare minimum to run your diesel vehicle, mas mura diesel, fluids at filter lang pinapalitan.

hindi ba parehas lang yan ng gasoline engine? fluids & filter?

problem is mas mahal ang filter ng diesel...

[Mojo]

mazdamazda

may contact, condenser at iba pa sa ignition karamihin ng kotse ngayon. may plugs pa,

mas mahal at mas madami ang filter, pero 100 pesos lang diperesnya

[mazdamazda]

mazdamazda

may contact, condenser at iba pa sa ignition karamihin ng kotse ngayon. may plugs pa,

I don't consider ignition system components as part of "regular maintenance". Our 323 is over 7 years old and those parts that you mentioned has yet to be replaced.

Plugs? Every 10K or so. Some (like for the Rav4 & Cefiro) are good for 100K kms.

[Mojo]

baka breaker less sayo,

comparison is yung old school engine na may contact point, condenser. mga items na yan pinapalita every tune up.

[Mojo]

i prefer diesel engine, pag tumirik ka, wala ka na ignition system alahanin, minsan tulak tulak lang ok na. parang may peace of mind ako, paying a bit more for that is fine with me.

running cost per see, halos parehos lang, sabihin natin mas mahal ang consumables, pero pa offset ata ng price ng fuel pag dito sa pinas

[FrankDrebin]

Ride is 2001 Isuzu Higlander POWER XTRM TRM TRM ala Centurions the cartoons hehehe
Expenses every 5K (DIY)
4 liters Delo Gold MultiGrade = Php550 (Much cheaper if I use the Delo Silver)
Oil Filter = Php200
Fuel Filter = Php180
Fuel Mileage = 10-12km/lt
Simple Suspension Setup but sturdy enough for Phil Road Condition. No regular replacement of stabilizer like that of any sort. And also parts are much cheaper.

[mazdamazda]

IMO... halos pareho lang yata ang diesel & gas...