Diesel Engine Maintenance vs Gas Engines

[cripple_rooster]

As long as there's a diesel version available, I don't even look at the gassers

Despite the injection pump timing in early diesels, that not every mechanic has the skill to tune properly (then leading to the smoke-belching issues), they're way easier to mantain. Also, comparing to a carburettor-fed gasoline-powered engine, it's cheaper to keep a diesel running and their longer-lasting overcome the higher cost for an engine overhaul.

Newer-generation CRDi's share those advantages with the older all-mechanicals, but its injection setup is not so hard to deal with as a gasoline EFI setup would be.

Okay, I must confess I'm really partial to diesels...

[Ry_Tower]

Gentlemen:

Most of the fuel economy issues regarding diesels consuming around 5-6 km/ltr are due to poor maintenance - I have several diesel pickups and they consistently get 10-12 km/liter.

I replace the air/oil/fuel filters every oil change (5000 km).

I keep the vehicles aligned.

I regularly check the tire pressure.

I maintain the fuel system (no calibration yet) - NO AIR or Fuel leaks.

Do this and all will be well.

Best Regards,

Dusky lim

FC depends not only on maintenance but the design of a car. Try aking a 4m40 Pajero reach 10 kms/ltr at the city.

I'm partial to diesel as well but I won't generalize that every diesel can reach such frugality. Esp. old shool diesels. Let's keep this thread as close to reality.

[duskylim]

FC depends not only on maintenance but the design of a car. Try aking a 4m40 Pajero reach 10 kms/ltr at the city.

I'm partial to diesel as well but I won't generalize that every diesel can reach such frugality. Esp. old shool diesels. Let's keep this thread as close to reality.

The pickups I mentioned are a 1995 and a 1998 model - so they are as OLD SCHOOL as they come.... - Pajero should get around 8 km/liter... if properly maintained.

And as I maintain them myself - I recently adjusted the valves I am quite sure of quality of the work.

[cripple_rooster]

My uncle's Chevrolet Blazer averages 9km/l in city traffic and 12km/l in highway, but it has an indirect-injection engine and is not so well-mantained at all. It's already belching a lot of smoke...

[usokpower]

Up ko lang ang thread.

I prefer diesel engine. My 1996 L200 clocked at 339,000 km, never overhauled, never calibrated. It still runs fine. Just change oil, change oil filter, change air filter, and change fuel filter when the need arises. It can do 9-10 km/litre in city driving while 11-12 km/litre in highway driving. Not bad for an almost 17 year old truck.

While a gas engine requires ignition system tune-up and spark plugs needed to be replaced.

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[cripple_rooster]

Old-school Diesels tend to tollerate better some operating abuses and environmental harshness. Newer ones, altough developing greater power levels while still retaining a better fuel-efficiency, have their sensibility to fuel quality issues but are still a better option than a gasser.

[Retz]

Pag gagamitin mo ng matagal ung tsikot mo and abuse it, preferably diesel engine piliin mo.

[glenn manikis]

Gentlemen:

Most of the fuel economy issues regarding diesels consuming around 5-6 km/ltr are due to poor maintenance - I have several diesel pickups and they consistently get 10-12 km/liter.

I replace the air/oil/fuel filters every oil change (5000 km).

I keep the vehicles aligned.

I regularly check the tire pressure.

I maintain the fuel system (no calibration yet) - NO AIR or Fuel leaks.

Do this and all will be well.

Best Regards,

Dusky lim

depende din po yan sa SIze ng engine, load, pati size ng tires and traffic.. sama mo na din driving habits....

mine 2.9 inline 5... kung fully loaded as mabigat na mabigat ang karga then floored mode pa... 6.2 - 6.6 kms. per liter...

kung walang laman naman city driving it can do 8kms. per liter in moderate city traffic....

highway driving loaded 7-10kms./liter naman....

pag kunti lang ang sakay as in 4-5 lang at tipid driving mode it can do 13kms./liter

yung ride ko can ave. between 6.2 up to 13kms. per liter po...

[jasonub]

pag luma tignan ang diesel ride hihintuin ka sa makati area para sa usok check.

hassle mga bwaka ng na na mga yun thus gas pa rin ako for now

sakit lang sa bulsa ang pag gagas

[Bin Diesel]

pag luma tignan ang diesel ride hihintuin ka sa makati area para sa usok check.

hassle mga bwaka ng na na mga yun thus gas pa rin ako for now

sakit lang sa bulsa ang pag gagas

i-factor in na sa gastos yung ASBU sa makati.

[usokpower]

Old-school Diesels tend to tollerate better some operating abuses and environmental harshness. Newer ones, altough developing greater power levels while still retaining a better fuel-efficiency, have their sensibility to fuel quality issues but are still a better option than a gasser.

We own a CRDI hilux. It is more fuel effecient, much quieter, runs faster, and emits less smoke than my 4d56 L200. But the hilux is very sensitive on the type of fuel I load. If I load a petron diesel max it dies down during cold starts. But if I fill it up with a turbo diesel it will start fine.

Also, when the battery of the hilux died around 2 years ago. We tried to jump start it and it wont start after several attempts. We were informed that you cant jump start a CRDI even if its manual.

So I prefer the old but reliable mechanical type of diesel engine instead of the electronically controlled CRDIs. Im also very skeptical on the longevity of CRDIs and I think with all the electronics installed in it, CRDIs will be very costly to repair.

[victorevolution]

yup you cant start a modern diesel engine with a kadyot style start up... the modern diesel engine very much relies now on electricity unlike the older types that even when the alternator gets busted it will still run since it doesn't need electricity(once it's started that is)

diesel vs. gas

eto lang masasabi ko, it's all a myth, (we own both type of engines) diesel engine's are easier to maintain like their gas counterpart.

pag mausok yung diesel mo, palitan mo lang yung fuel nozzle and then presto good as new, but how come many diesel engine owners doesn't do this? sa may mga pera- their suking mekaniko ay walang alam, sa may mga alam naman walang pambili(pampaseherong jeep kasi it cost 3k each and ang papalitan mo ay 8 depende sa auto(isuzu trooper)

[Retz]

We own a CRDI hilux. It is more fuel effecient, much quieter, runs faster, and emits less smoke than my 4d56 L200. But the hilux is very sensitive on the type of fuel I load. If I load a petron diesel max it dies down during cold starts. But if I fill it up with a turbo diesel it will start fine.

Also, when the battery of the hilux died around 2 years ago. We tried to jump start it and it wont start after several attempts. We were informed that you cant jump start a CRDI even if its manual.

So I prefer the old but reliable mechanical type of diesel engine instead of the electronically controlled CRDIs. Im also very skeptical on the longevity of CRDIs and I think with all the electronics installed in it, CRDIs will be very costly to repair.

hindi pwede mag jumpstart pag crdi? you are just adding power to the depleted battery para umander ang makina.

[usokpower]

hindi pwede mag jumpstart pag crdi? you are just adding power to the depleted battery para umander ang makina.

Oops mali hindi pala jumpstart, its supposed to be "push start".

Di na pwede de tulak sa crdi.

[usokpower]

yup you cant start a modern diesel engine with a kadyot style start up... the modern diesel engine very much relies now on electricity unlike the older types that even when the alternator gets busted it will still run since it doesn't need electricity(once it's started that is)

diesel vs. gas

eto lang masasabi ko, it's all a myth, (we own both type of engines) diesel engine's are easier to maintain like their gas counterpart.

pag mausok yung diesel mo, palitan mo lang yung fuel nozzle and then presto good as new, but how come many diesel engine owners doesn't do this? sa may mga pera- their suking mekaniko ay walang alam, sa may mga alam naman walang pambili(pampaseherong jeep kasi it cost 3k each and ang papalitan mo ay 8 depende sa auto(isuzu trooper)

We used to own gas fed cars back in the 70s 80s and mid 90s. Noong nag taasan na presyo sa gasolina nag shift kami sa diesel. Masmatipid and masmatibay. Ung L200 ko na 17 years never pa ako tinirik sa daan.

Tama ka diyan. Ako ngayon taon ko lang nalaman ang nozzle tips sa diesel engine. Nalaman ko lang yan nung dinala ko L200 ko sa calibration nung nag leleak na ng diesel sa injection pump. Pinalitan nila yung mga seals sa injection pump tapos pinapalitan sa akin ung nozzles.

Usually kasi ang kabisado ng mekaniko ung suspension, hoses, transmission, belts. Pag fuel system di nila gaano kabisado.

Ngayon ok na takbo niya and konti nalang ang usok na binubuga.

[niky]

Mura pa yung nozzle tips niyo. CRDi injectors cost 30k.












PER PIECE.

[usokpower]

Mura pa yung nozzle tips niyo. CRDi injectors cost 30k.












PER PIECE.

Haha grabe. Parang bibili ka na ng second hand na auto niyan sa mahal, per piece pa

[crazy_boy]

Mura pa yung nozzle tips niyo. CRDi injectors cost 30k.












PER PIECE.

Grabe pala sa mahal ng injectors ng crdi. Gusto ko pa naman kumuha ng getz crdi.

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[glenn manikis]

Mura pa yung nozzle tips niyo. CRDi injectors cost 30k.












PER PIECE.

ganun ba... SOBRA naman sila mag mark up!!!!

yung mb140 van ko... ang original BOSCH nasa 1.4k ang replacement nasa 550 each lang....