D4D choking is back , yes as I experienced it!!!!

[Mschumacher]

Thank God I got a carens instead of innova. Since I got my unit till now (almost 5k already, ready for service na next week) I had no problems with my unit except for one time that I can't pop open the hood. (Natanggal lang pala yung cable sa clip). I remember the TS also thinks of buying a carens.

Well back to topic does the toyota manager have a proof of saying na nangyayari din ang choking sa ford and kia units. If he has no proof how dare he says that.

[rion]

I think It's still happening outside philippines, look at this d4d problem with avensis.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0095813AABYSAa

kaya bs yang excuse ng toyota dealers.

[niky]

I think It's still happening outside philippines, look at this d4d problem with avensis.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0095813AABYSAa

kaya bs yang excuse ng toyota dealers.

That's actually a different issue... electronics yun on a secondhand or old car.

To be honest, I have not found much regarding D4D problems outside the Philippines, and much that is written about it is in reference to the D4D choking issue as read by foreigners on our local websites.

But this is English language websites. In other third world countries, the problems actually do occur... countries like... errh... Pakistan.

It really is fuel quality. One would hope Toyota would design or subcontract a better part, but...

[Radical!]

Sorry to hear about your Innova Fireblade.

As far as our Innova D4Ds, which ran north of 75,000 kilometers are concerned, only one unit was reported to have stalled (using low grade barrio diesel I gathered) the way yours did. So the 'dirty diesel' theory might be true. The other case was a recall of the rear differential which Toyota replaced under warranty.

[SIZE="1"]You should have got the Carens instead[/SIZE]...

[magnusthegreat]

Don't blame gas companies for the poor performance of D4d engines. Gas companies like Shell has its own independent quality control team with a mini lab to checks their Gas Stations on a regular basis.

[ringostarr]

i have to agree with the concerns of Toyota. the gasoline companies are doing something with the diesel. although I havent experienced the choking problem with my CRDI Sta Fe, pansin ko lang na iba ang takbo nya ngaun.

before kasi after every full tank, my gauge starts to move when I reach 80KM from 0 reset during full tank. ngaun mag-50 pa lang ambilis mag-move.
and I have observed this twice already magmula ng sunod-sunod ang price increases.

although my FC still improved in the past 2 full tanks, wala naman kasi gano traffic ngaun sa route as well no school and I dont travel during rush hours, dapat man lang eh umabot na ako ng 650km for every full tank

pls do take note yun gasoline station ko is the same gasoline station na ginagas since my SF was bought August 2006. eto yun sa harap ng Meralco na may Mcdo. parang sa supplier na ata nagaganap ang magic nila eh

[fireblade]

Getting the unit now in Toyota and according to the manager that I talked to this morning, there had been 4 Fortuners and 4 Innovas including mine released 2008 that had stalled.

To the folks relating to my choice of Carens / Innova, sorry but I really prefer the Innova

Back on topic, I will now take my chance of using it and hope that it doesnt happen again.

Radical,

Iwas muna ako sa Petron dito at sa Makati ave muna lilipat

I hope it wont happen again. If its any consolation, there has been no recorded stalling at high speed. When I asked them who pays for damages if for example it was caused by the stalling, I saw six rolling eyes not knowing what to say

[rion]

if It really is fuel quality. then we are all doomed!

[niky]

RE: Hyundais: That's the way they deal with crappy diesel. Fuel economy and power suffer. But clean out the system and they run better.

I still haven't seen how Ford TDCis react to bad diesel... haven't come across any that have been fed poor fuel.

[rxbandits]

similar thing happened to me while driving our 04 starex diesel last month... it was an even worst scenario coz i was in nlex (overtaking lane) when the engine died, similar with what happened with yours.. i was pushing the van hard trying to keep up with my father while doing 130kph the engine ceased ive pushed the van to 180kph in nlex before so i know that it can do 140-150kph easy..,i immediately pulled to the shoulder and started it after a minute and everything was back to normal..up to this very moment...

i noticed that the van was not as perky as it was when i gassed up at a local caltex that morning i can almost tell that there was something wrong

[userfriendly]

Engine dying at high speed, man thats scary! Good thing your safe.

Had a similar experience a few years ago. Driving a beat up old VW Golf. Engine quit at 30-40 kmh approaching a turn. Was able to restart the car by keeping it in gear and pumping the clutch, ala jump start. I dont blame the car as it was a really beat up. It was in an auction and we had some "gems" there.

Just hope Toyota fixes this issue before someone gets hurt.

[paolorenzo]

Baka naman the use of biodiesel might help? At least kahit temporary stop-gap measure? It might reduce the chances of it happening again?

[stryke1]

may problema pa din ang D4-D design.....

[fireblade]

Just got back the unit with a new supply pump. Now I will have to trust this with our lives and hope that it does not happen again.

Will keep the thread updated if something happens again. It just dawned on me, dati nababasa ko lang and ngayon ako na mismo and naka -experience

Anyways, thats life and Im not the type who would still look back. I must admit though that I am impressed with the manner Toyota Bicutan handled my unit. They were very professional and finished on time. I brought the unit at 11am, 5k pms and replacement of the supply pump done by 530pm. And yes, I checked the pump if it was indeed replaced

[cocoy]

isnt there available filters to really filter out dirty or what ever kind of diesel we have in the philippines? that would be a good bussines to start...

[s_quilicot]

2.5 liter D4D lang ba affected or pati 3.0 D4D ..?

[number001]

^There are reports of 3.0 D-4D suffering from the same problem.

Bottomline: Nobody seem to be 100% safe when buying these D-4D. As long as, Toyota is not forthright with this issue (perhaps they don't even know what's the *real* problem), there would always be this fear of the problem arising. No peace of min, IMO.

[fireblade]

isnt there available filters to really filter out dirty or what ever kind of diesel we have in the philippines? that would be a good bussines to start...

Saw your post in another thread and I am appalled with what you said.

As to your question here, go and start one since you know it all.

[vinrem]

Hi fireblade, have you switch gasoline station already? are you still using petron or you switch to other gasoline brand like shell or caltex? when you switch to other diesel brand or pumping station, nag-iba ba ang takbo ng unit mo???

[tidus1203]

Somewhat of an OT, but my Landcruiser is also diesel but no problems with different brands of diesel. Even diesels from small and unknown gas stations....