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    #41
    Sorry for the OT. Ask ko lang kung pwede po ba i-convert mga lumang diesel or upgrade to CRDi? Thanks

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    #42
    Engine swap, siguro, puwede... ;)

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

  3. #43
    complete engine swap lang talaga,e.. nagisip na din ako ng ganyan...di pwedeng head/fuel delivery lang ng makina papalitan mo..example: 7A-GE-hybrid(from 7a-fe block w/ 4age 20v head...)

    kung gagawin mo lang EFI, not CRDI, pwede pa siguro...

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    #44
    Carb to EFi is easy if you have the right engine parts. Some engines are sold both as carb and efi, with no differences in the block.

    But from pre-combustion to CRDi... it would only work if the engines are both of the same model generation and with no internal differences. Kumbaga... bagong 4D56 lang... not the old ones.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

  5. #45
    kung papalitan mo pa para maretain mo lang block palitan mo nalang ng buo....daming trial-error to pag swap siguro, mas madugo pa ata from carb-efi,e..

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by louchua View Post
    Altought about the Patrol, I'm pretty sure that the new one (super Safari Edition) is already a CrDi. My friend just got one and it's very very powerful. Medyo matagtag nga lang for an SUV.
    I'm still not so sure about this Sir louchua, kasi nag exhibit bagong patrol sa gateway mall a few weeks back, tinanong ko yung salesman kung CRDi type na yung engine, sabi nya hindi pa rin daw, at wala pa daw silang CRDi type diesel dito sa Pinas...

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Volkswagen and Audi uses Bosch CRDi. Ford uses Bosch CRDi for the Focus, Jaguar vehicles, Mazda vehicles, Land Rover vehicles, and other Euro market vehicles; while for the Ranger and Everest, they use VM Motori's CRDi. For the SuperDuty pick-ups, they use Navistar's CRDi system under the PowerStroke name. I think maybe they are going to use Bosch's CRDi for the upcoming Expedition CRDi.
    Upcoming Expedition CRDi? WOW!! This, I got to see (in advance pls!)!

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by louchua
    Altought about the Patrol, I'm pretty sure that the new one (super Safari Edition) is already a CrDi. My friend just got one and it's very very powerful. Medyo matagtag nga lang for an SUV.
    The local Patrol Super Safari's engine is not yet CRDi. The Patrol in Australia got a CRDi version of its ZD30 engine only this April.

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    #49
    Expedition Luxury + Duratoq ... sarap nga nyan kaya lang baka 4M naman isa

  10. #50
    Duratoq Expedition, research naman mga Bros, para makita natin! Ganda nyan!

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Volkswagen and Audi uses Bosch CRDi. Ford uses Bosch CRDi for the Focus, Jaguar vehicles, Mazda vehicles, Land Rover vehicles, and other Euro market vehicles; while for the Ranger and Everest, they use VM Motori's CRDi. For the SuperDuty pick-ups, they use Navistar's CRDi system under the PowerStroke name. I think maybe they are going to use Bosch's CRDi for the upcoming Expedition CRDi.
    nagtataka nga ako kung bakit mas malakas ang engines equipped with Bosch CRDi compared sa Ford Ranger Duratorq CRDi engines with VGT pa. yun pala hindi Bosch CRDi ang Ranger.

    kung titingnan natin ang specs in terms of horsepower (HP) output:

    Bosch CRDi
    Hyundai Starex 2.5L = 145HP
    Hyundai Grand Starex 2.5L (VGT) = 175HP
    Hyundai Veracruz 3.0L (VGT) = 240 HP

    versus:

    Ford Ranger Trekker Duratorq 2.5L (VGT) = 143HP
    Ford Ranger XLT Duratorq 3.0L (VGT) = 156HP


    now if Ford will use Bosch CRDi sa Expedition, ibang usapan na ito...

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by lolo pepe View Post
    nagtataka nga ako kung bakit mas malakas ang engines equipped with Bosch CRDi compared sa Ford Ranger Duratorq CRDi engines with VGT pa. yun pala hindi Bosch CRDi ang Ranger.

    kung titingnan natin ang specs in terms of horsepower (HP) output:

    Bosch CRDi
    Hyundai Starex 2.5L = 145HP
    Hyundai Grand Starex 2.5L (VGT) = 175HP
    Hyundai Veracruz 3.0L (VGT) = 240 HP

    versus:

    Ford Ranger Trekker Duratorq 2.5L (VGT) = 143HP
    Ford Ranger XLT Duratorq 3.0L (VGT) = 156HP


    now if Ford will use Bosch CRDi sa Expedition, ibang usapan na ito...
    mas mataas pa pala HP ng Ford Ranger kesa Sorento at CRDi VGT pa. May nakasabay kasi ako nyan na parang ahas magpatakbo at nagkataon naman na Star Toll din ang daan niya so sinubukan ko nga. Di makahabol sa Sorento!

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by lolo pepe View Post
    nagtataka nga ako kung bakit mas malakas ang engines equipped with Bosch CRDi compared sa Ford Ranger Duratorq CRDi engines with VGT pa. yun pala hindi Bosch CRDi ang Ranger.

    kung titingnan natin ang specs in terms of horsepower (HP) output:

    Bosch CRDi
    Hyundai Starex 2.5L = 145HP
    Hyundai Grand Starex 2.5L (VGT) = 175HP
    Hyundai Veracruz 3.0L (VGT) = 240 HP

    versus:

    Ford Ranger Trekker Duratorq 2.5L (VGT) = 143HP
    Ford Ranger XLT Duratorq 3.0L (VGT) = 156HP


    now if Ford will use Bosch CRDi sa Expedition, ibang usapan na ito...


    S A L A M A T lolo pepe.....Very informative ito....sana laging post ng ganito ka interesting info.

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    #54
    Maybe he didn't want to? The Ford Ranger 3.0 can get from 0-100 km/h in 11 seconds flat, and will do 190 (in manual trim). It's plenty fast enough.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by vctradingcubao View Post
    Duratoq Expedition, research naman mga Bros, para makita natin! Ganda nyan!

    YAP!!.. 2nd emotion po ako dyan....pero sana hindi duratorq kasi sabi ni lolo pepe mahina compared to Bosch.

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    #56
    Originally Posted by lolo pepe
    nagtataka nga ako kung bakit mas malakas ang engines equipped with Bosch CRDi compared sa Ford Ranger Duratorq CRDi engines with VGT pa. yun pala hindi Bosch CRDi ang Ranger.

    kung titingnan natin ang specs in terms of horsepower (HP) output:

    Bosch CRDi
    Hyundai Starex 2.5L = 145HP
    Hyundai Grand Starex 2.5L (VGT) = 175HP
    Hyundai Veracruz 3.0L (VGT) = 240 HP

    versus:

    Ford Ranger Trekker Duratorq 2.5L (VGT) = 143HP
    Ford Ranger XLT Duratorq 3.0L (VGT) = 156HP


    now if Ford will use Bosch CRDi sa Expedition, ibang usapan na ito...
    Bro, try to post also the figures of the torque for each. I think the Ford would exceed the rest.

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
    mas mataas pa pala HP ng Ford Ranger kesa Sorento at CRDi VGT pa. May nakasabay kasi ako nyan na parang ahas magpatakbo at nagkataon naman na Star Toll din ang daan niya so sinubukan ko nga. Di makahabol sa Sorento!
    nasa body na problema ng ranger boxy and long body sya. it's a late 90's design mazda pickup. iba syempre sorento

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by CPY61 View Post
    Bro, try to post also the figures of the torque for each. I think the Ford would exceed the rest.
    Bosch CRDi
    Hyundai Starex 2.5L = 145HP (no idea on Torque)
    Hyundai SantaFe CRDi 2.2L (VGT): 153hp (343Nm)
    Hyundai Grand Starex 2.5L (VGT) = 175HP (around 395Nm)
    Hyundai Veracruz 3.0L (VGT) = 240 HP (450-480Nm)

    versus:

    Ford Ranger Trekker Duratorq 2.5L (VGT) = 143HP 330Nm
    Ford Ranger XLT Duratorq 3.0L (VGT) = 156HP 380Nm


    Hyundai recently announced the 2.0L I4 VGT engine with the same power as the current 2.2L Engine installed in 2007 SantaFes.

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by dbuzz View Post
    S A L A M A T lolo pepe.....Very informative ito....sana laging post ng ganito ka interesting info.
    wala pong anuman. medyo masipag lang po mag research at magtambay sa internet...

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    #60
    wow!! grabe malupit talaga ang CRDI ng Hyundai. Hands-down panalo.

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CRDi does it really live-up to its expectation?..mula inilabas yun??